for example will not offer access to sloan kettering memorial in manhattan or md anderson cancer center in houston. two of the top cancer centers, or cedar sinai in los angeles, one of the top research and teaching hospitals in the country. experts say the move is to limit consumer choices and steer them away from the hospitals considered too expensive or inefficient, reflects a new competitive landscape in the insurance industry since the passage of the affordable care act, barack obama's 2010 health care law. tucker carlson and penny lee. i don't know if either of you, i'm sure, would know somebody that had cancer. >> of course. >> somebody you love, you care about gets cancer wouldn't you want them to go to sloan kettering or md anderson? two of the top cancer research centers in the country? >> i do. my mother just passed away from cancer. >> i'm sorry. >> thank you. that's exactly the hospitals in which we were searching for to get her that type of care. under medicare there were restrictions. it would have required some of the out of pocket expenses. some of the decisions are alre

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know insurance companies are limiting these providers networks. >> cedars-sinai, md anderson, sloan kettering. that's what may off the record was about. >> people are concerned when they sign up for man's, whether it is because of obama care or not, they will have coverage that doesn't allow them to access providers. this is a huge part for rural americans themselves don't have a lot of rural providers to begin with. >> why did not they let you know? >> originally that was the man. on october 1st when health care.gov debuted, this would be part of what consumers could access. in the weeks leading up to that, things were so chaotic they said we need to scale back. we're going on make the basic system work. of course it did not. but now they're rolling it out saying it is a boone to consumers. it eliminates the bottleneck. >> have they figured out yet how to faye insurance company? >> no. that system is still in progress. >> it is not billed. it wasn't supposed to be ready until this month but they are worried it won't be ready until jab. >> and a violent attack caught on camera. is it the late

going to be true of a lot more all over the country. >> if you have cancer, you want to go to sloan kettering. >> yeah, do you. >> if you have a mallady in los angeles, you want to go to cedar sinai. first rate hospitals to say you know what? we don't like this law. for whatever reason, it's basically cost, that's what's going on. >> of course it is. there is also a factor and we heard this last week where there is so much paperwork and the doctors say look, i don't have time. i have got to treat people. i can't be hiring ten people to figure it out. that's another thick because the thing is so damn complicated. >> no doubt. >> and there is the further fact that, remember this, bill, when the president undertook to do this, there was a poll, september of 2009 gallup asking people how they felt about their healthcare and their health insurance. 80 percent said they were satisfied with their healthcare, 61 percent said they were satisfied with their health insurance. which means that if you are going to come in and completely revolutionize and change that system, you are going to upset a lot of

michel setalane, sloane kettering center. thank you. >>> coming up next, the world prepares to say good-bye to nelson mandela and the changes he made in their lives. >>> later in our program, market value, the restaurant that's dirk up a commodity in a california community. -- dishing up a commodity in a california community. america brings you controversial... >> both parties are owned by the corporations. >> ..entertaining >> it's fun to play with ideas. >> ...thought provoking >> get your damn education. >> ...surprising >> oh, absolutely! is hquoo could away. >> the long walk to a final rest has begun in south africa. where leaders are moving in now to remember nelson mandela. nearly 100 heads of state and leaders, former president of the country, nelson mandela died thursday at the age of 95. a national tribute to mandela will take place at a johannesburg soccer stadium with thousands of ordinary south africans, including cube afternoon president raul castro. alal jazeera's ali velshi is joining us from south africa. tel

sloan kettering. >> where my mom goes. she can afford it. >> okay. the problem is this. politically now every promise the president made is predicated on a lie. can't keep your doctor, can't keep your plan. why don't you join me and say let's have a new debate on health care. >> i'm all for it. >> are you for it? >> i'm for doing away with obama care, with doing away with the website. last night on "60 minutes" we saw how a businessman -- >> isn't it great? scroll that. >> they are giving the cia the web service. >> and look at the delivery system. the video is incredible. i could watch all day long. 86% of amazon orders are under five pounds. that drone can leave a distribution sent, take your book "tamara holder unhinged" and drop it off an hour after you order it. i love that. if the they can do that? >> i can stalk a guy by putting a drone and tracking his every movement. >> that's the private sector free market versus government. >> why didn't they hire amazon well before? >> exactly. >> obviously the cia was using this. do away with obama care. these stats the tick

don't have approved plans from obama don't get to go to get cancer treatment from a place like sloan kettering, and so rich people can afford to go there but the average person can't go. so how is that better? >> it is perfectly fine with me. >> how about the ipad that will make the decision whether or not somebody elderly gets a hip or just a pain killer. it is there, bob. >> that storm coming across the country too, it is obama care. it is terrible. >> and this storm here is called the a. block followed by thunder into b. and ahead jessie jackson on so-called apartheid in america. and later a violent feud involving lindsey lohan and paris hilton. paris believes lindsey lohan may have put out a hint on her brother. we'll have more. ♪ >>> on something called meet the press, refer and -- reverend jesse jackson said this about mandela. >> even today while we son the skin level of apartheid, the apartheid remains with gaps in poverty and health care and education. we are in the middle of the end of the apartheid story but now it has just changed faces. >> didn't see that coming. using apartheid t

you talk about the big medical centers, seedars sinai, sloan-ketteri sloan-kettering, they've all been removed from insurance networks. so i don't know where they'll get the money or the patients if the doctors have to move to bigger institutions. the institutions have to make money. >> it's true. and it's very difficult. you know, having spent my whole life in academic medicine, i can tell you, as a practitioner, working for a university, you are still responsible for the cost of your administrative staff and for all of the other expenses, everything you had to pay for, you had to pay for your laboratory, out of money that you generated. so all of these prestigious institutions with world-class physicians are going to be hurting. they're going to be looking for money. it's being parcelled out to them. if they do this and if they do that. so basically tightening the noose of control around them. you jump through this hoop and i'll give you some money. you know, i don't know how this ever happened to us. this is america. and we've allowed this to happen. i'm not giving up. i think it's

. >> cedar sinai, sloan kettering, they have all been removed from insurance networks.ow where they're going to get the money or theç patients if all the doctors have to more over to all these bigger institutions. there is a situation where these institutions have to be able to make money it's true andvery difficult. having spent my life in academic medicine. each as a practitioner working for a university. you are still responsible for the cost of your administrative, staff, and for all other expenses.ç your office space. everything you had to pay for pay for lab tore out of money you generated. all these prestigiousc: institutions with world class physicians are going to be hurting. they are going to be looking for money. it's being parceled out to them. if they do this, and if it they do that, so, basically, tightening thes nooses of control around them. you jump through this hoop and i will give you some money. you know, i don't know how this ever happened to usç i'm not giving up. i think there is a very good chance that we can reverse this and start doing thin

colleague i will research it and i'll find out, but the fact is is -- is the leading cancer -- sloan kettering, same thing, leading cancer centers in this country probably couldn't come in agreement at a price low enough that would pay for their costs for this advanced cancer care, so they didn't offer them a contract. because they wouldn't cut their prices enough for the insurance. so -- so here's the main point. we promised to increase access. what you're really seeing is decreased access. i can't go to chris logathitas, the number one oncological urologic specialist in the united states, i can't go see him under my insurance. i can -- i'm fortunate enough. i had a career before i was in the senate. i'll pay. but think about how many people aren't going to be able to see chris logathitas and go to m.d. anderson and have their lives saved through the latest advances in pure biochemical and medical research put forward by a lot of people from texas, some money from the n.i.h., there is no question, some from the milliken institute, who -- private money that's gone into research. we all seem to

like new york, texas and california, for example, will not offer patients access to memorial sloane kettering in manhattan or m.d. anderson cancer center in houston, two top cancer centers or cedars-sinai in los angeles, one of the top researching and teaching hospitals in the country. i guess there is a reason they are the top hospital. they come with a price tag and obamacare is generally not going to let people get coverage that will allow them to access those hospitals. >> yeah, these are some of the top cancer hospitals and this is, what looks likes an unintended consequences of obamacare. now the administration says that insurers have long-picked the hospital that is are in different plans but at the same time we are a new system and that's because of what passed in 2010. so, i mean, jon, unemployment got down to 7% last week. this should be a good time for the white house but more and more you're seeing the white house legacy tied to obamacare. the president's numbers are very low. regardless of the economic news and what republicans are saying that obamacare will actually be hurting t

we know no exchange plans exclude our nation's best hospitals, hospitals like seattle's sloan-kettering the m.d. anderson cancer city -- center and the like. unfortunately millions of americans are likely to find out early next year that their new health insurance plan doesn't cover the doctors they most value and trust. such limited plans demand that we asked the question, what quality of care will obamacare actually provide? the access shock has prompted many americans to ask didn't the president promised me that i could keep my doctor. too? on november 19 the white house press secretary explained that the president meant by that, you can keep your doctor was that if you want coverage from your doctor you can look and see if they are on your plan. excuse me. see if there is a plan in which your doctor or dissipates. clearly in the case of federal exchanges it is unlikely that the best and perhaps the most expensive physicians will ever be available. just this past sunday, a key architect of the law explained if you like your doctor you can pay more for that doctor. before the affordab