and when the russian leadership tried to convince slobodan milosevic to come to some kind of agreementh... the party, as you know, viktor chornomyrdin met with slobodan milosevic before this nato operation, and how yevhen primakov met with saddam hussein, that is, but they did not use political methods, but i want to remind you, if you have already mentioned the bombing of yugoslavia by nato forces, about what happened in the first day of this operations about a symbolic event, about the downing of the plane of the prime minister of the russian federation, yevgeny primakov, who was flying to the united states. for negotiations with the vice president of the united states, albert gore. pryamakov, when learned that a decision had been made to bomb yugoslavia, he ordered the crew to change course and take a course not for washington, but for moscow. and from this moment the countdown begins. in the new russian foreign policy. anti-western. frankly anti. western and this was even before the moment when vladimir putin appeared on the political scene of russia. at the moment when yevhen prim

this is what slobodan milosevic says: russians, look at us, remember, they will do the same to you whene in. the west is a chained mad dog, it will grab you by the throat, brothers, remember the fate of yugoslavia, do not let it do the same to you. at this time, even the existence of russia as a powerful power with its own opinion is being questioned. listen to what muammar gaddafi says: 4 months, 4 months you are bombing our country, everyone is afraid to even say a word of condemnation, if there were still russia in the world, real russia, a united and great russia that protected the weak, you wouldn’t dare, but it doesn’t exist. it is gone, and you are triumphant, countries are being destroyed, thousands of people are being killed, look, this is a photograph taken during the bloody gaddafi regime, this is a photograph of the same place, after democracy collapsed on this country. concentrate, because we began to understand the conditions in which the atlantic expansion puts us, we find ourselves absolutely defenseless, defense systems are being installed along the borders of our count

saddam hussein, muammar gaddafi, slobodan milosevic, did any of these guys get an arrest warrant, didy of them get charged? no, one even received the nobel peace prize, obama. wake up, my beloved midshipman krivoruchka told me during our discussions, sailor mikhalkov, look for fools in the mirror, he is instead fools said a different word, rougher, but more precise, and now i want to tell you, look in the mirror for those whom swordsman krivorochka suggested i look for, you know this joke, what is the similarity between piggy, macron. with wonderful music, painting , with wonderful cinema, with wonderful nature with wonderful people, musical, sympathetic, hospitable, this country was called georgia, in 1801 it joined russia, because it was on the verge of complete extermination by the persians and turks. i didn’t remember how he was, with what appetite, he ate his tie, gave an interview to the bbc tv channel, saakashvili unleashed a bloodbath against the little one. abkhazia and south ossetia, which did not want to live according to the laws that we proposed to them, like donbass, by

individuals and individuals, like the case of the balkans, where people like karadzic or people like slobodan milosevice more targeted in the vote, but our main question is why now at the beginning the year 2024 the hague court, its position , its role, especially the decision it made today , is considered important. what happened in today's world, how is it different from the world of the past? this scene and the decision that he issued today will definitely be a catalyst and an accelerating factor in the direction of renewing public opposition to the nature of the identity and behavior of the zionist regime and the reason for the concern of the united states and the zionist regime about the holding of the hague tribunal and the cases that we have seen that have been raised do in this the court is the same. many think that maybe it is because of the executive works of this issue. no, the occupying regime of al-quds has repeatedly violated even the un security council's absolute resolutions. we are observing this issue during the construction of settlements in the west bank and the occupied lands. that

whereas often they will drag their victims before the icj, and i'm thinking particularly of slobodan milosevic who was dragged before the icj and died in in their courts essentially, um, so i didn't expect much of it, but actually to see the very... testimony to see south africa's justice minister come and speak on behalf of the international community. we know the more than 150 nations in the general assembly of the un have passed resolutions condemning and calling out israel's genocide and demanding a cease fire. and we know that the permanent security council, which has five permanent members and rotating members, so there are eight on it, have also essentially with the with the veto of the us and the abstention of the uk. demanded the same that there was cease fire so it's very clear in the eyes of the world that it's the uk and um and the us who are protecting israel, but what i wasn't expecting is to be so moved in this relatively sterile environment that i consider the it's like away game you're you're you know you're in the home of imperialism but the powerful testimony both of the min

whereas often they will drag their victims before the icj, and i'm thinking particularly of slobodan milosevic who was dragged before the icj and died in in their courts essentially, um, so i didn't expect much of it, but actually to see the very powerful testimony to see south." africa's justice minister come and speak on behalf of the international community. we know the more than 150 nations in the general assembly of the un have passed resolutions condemning and calling out israel's genocide and demanding a ceasefire, and we know that the permanent security council, which has five permanent members and rotating members, so there are eight on it, have also essentially with with the veto of the us and the abstention of the uk demanded the same that there was... cease fire so it's very clear in the eyes of the world that it's the uk and um and the us who are protecting israel, but what i wasn't expecting is to be so moved in this relatively sterile environment that i consider the it's like away game you're you're you know you're in the home of imperialism but the powerful testimony both of th

professor sir geoffrey nice kc, barrister and judge — who led the prosecution in the trial of slobodan milosevicr the former yugoslavia. thank you for coming on the program. part—timejudge, neverfull—time. talk to us about what you've heard from israel's today?— from israel's today? they made a fairly predictable _ from israel's today? they made a fairly predictable defense. - from israel's today? they made a fairly predictable defense. some | from israel's today? they made a i fairly predictable defense. some of the arguments were very well presented. 0ne the arguments were very well presented. one or two that are going to be difficult for the court to deal with. as you realise, this is not a case where genocide is going to be decided by this court of worry whether it's a plausible case of genocide and then a plausible case of the giving of provisional measures to defend their right to those people involved. the measures being asked for are numerous. the first is that they should be a cessation of all military action by israel. i think that may be a difficult want to grant even assuming they fi

nice kc, a human rights barrister who was the lead prosecutor of former yugoslavian president slobodan milosevicyou forjoining us on bbc news, sir geoffrey nice. we appreciate your time. how strong do you think south africa puts �*s case is? you think south africa puts 's case is? . , ., , ., , is? that is for the “udges finally to decide. h is? that is for the “udges finally to decide. they _ is? that is for the judges finally to decide. they had _ is? that is for the judges finally to decide. they had evidence i is? that is for the judges finally l to decide. they had evidence that many would find quite strong in respect of both actions and things said by israeli leaders to establish to the very low level required at this stage, to establish genocidal intent. genocidal intent is the critical feature of any and every alleged genocidal crime. however, evenif alleged genocidal crime. however, even if they have that evidence, they have to get past one other procedural hurdle raised by israel, saying they were too late and notifying israel of their application. i think it is unlikely that that hurd

.. perfectly understand that kosovo is a territory where genocide took place, in fact, that slobodan milošević to expel all albanians from the territory of their many years of residence, some lived more, some lived less, but this is language it's been about a century, and this was the main idea of ​​serbian chauvinism, expel albanians from kosovo, because kosovo is serbia, and there is nothing, nothing for albanians to do there. but the subsequent recognition of kosovo's independence by the united states and other countries of the world created a precedent for russia, which putin decided to use when in 2008 he recognized the independence of abkhazia, south ossetia, and said that abkhazia is worse than kosovo, georgia too wanted to carry out genocides in south ossetia there, abkhazia shelled tskynval with rockets, which. georgians have never in their lives expelled abkhazians from georgia and south ossetia, from abkhazia south ossetia, the authorities of these regions expelled ethnic georgians and put them in a situation where they turned into refugees for ten years, but nevertheless, neverthel

sylvia poggioli, talked about a place i'd never heard of kosovo and a man i'd never heard of slobodan milosevic and played bits with translation of milosevic's and what the speech was about was the 16 hundredth anniversary of an obscure medieval battle, the battle of kosovo between serbs and the and the ottoman empire mirrored the second in which serbs had always described as a martyr defeat. in fact, it was a kind of standoff and i thought what milosevic's done was import 1 million serbs from all over yugoslavia to commemorate this open unhealed wound as projected it of the battle of kosovo. and i thought to myself immediately, oh, some as i imagined him mine ex-communist apparatchik has found a way to dig himself and his cronies of the debris of the wreckage of communism by banging a xenophobic nationalist drum. and so fatefully it was it was proved, i think. so i just want to i just want to now ask you, though, about because i should i have to say this my book, which is not you know, it's it's i don't know 400 pages it is the most pathetic pamphlet compared to simon's wonderful book called t

i took statements by slobodan milosevic and other high-level officials, and filed them with the court commit genocide. and the court agreed with me. these are what we lawyers coal admissions against interest by officials like a president or a minister of defense acting within the scope of their authority by their statement. and that's why the court found specific intent to commit genocide. it is a high burden to be sure, but the court found it was there. >> looking ahead, and with this being an interim rolling, could the case against israel continue to be looking at it for years, and how significant do you think this decision that came out of the icj is given it is an interim one? >> algeria will be convening a station of the security council on wednesday for the enforcement of the order. it is for the security council to enforce it. i suspect the biden administration will veto any resolution enforcement. then it will be turned over to the u. n. general assembly under the uniting for peace resolution, where there could be very severe consequences from israel. it could be suspended fro