>> stephen: smauk. >> smoug. >> stephen: smauk. >> i don't hear the difference. >> just call me dude.e been called a most specially greedy strong and wicked worm. how does that make you feel? >> pretty excited in a wormy kind of way. who was it who said that? was it peter jackson? did he say that? >> stephen: no, actually it was professor tolken. >> who? >> stephen: forget about it. look, we've got to go, but before we do, any upcoming projects? >> you know, i was offered on a role on "sherlock." i turned them down, of course. i mean, who wants to play second fiddle to that hack cumberbatch? >> stephen: well, martin freeman doesn't seem to mind. >> martin's cheap. he doesn't need much feeding, apparently. sweet, little martin. little, little, little man. >> stephen: yeah, but he got the better of you, though, didn't he? bilbo, he tricked you. >> no. >> stephen: you know, there's that moment in the second movie when you finish toying with him and you rear back. you're like how do you choose to die? >> that's not how i did it, but carry on. >> stephen: yes it was. and he pops on the rin