when he thanked joe biden, biden was smirking. i thought that came across as very disrespectful and symbol symbolic of the way that joe biden handled the night. on the substance, i was struck by the same thing with respect to libbia. it seemed that vice-president was criticizing the intelligence community, in some ways, by not giving them as much information as we thought. he blamed all the false statements of the obama administration on the intelligence community and seemed to raise questions about the confidence of the intelligence community and in a discussion about iran, he said, we will know when they go to -- when they go to a break-out for the bomb. it seems to me, there is major tension between those two statements on the one hand, suggesting they are not competent enough to know what happened on the ground in libya but saying they will know for sure if iran decides to go for the bomb. >> on domestic policy, we heard joe biden do what his boss, barack obama, did not, hammer the 47% comoant that mitt romney said and was tal

the one famous for the smirk.t's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look like when the other person is speaking so i don't look frustrated or angry. gerri: what are you supposed to do? >> a natural expression, rather than the jaw tensioned up, just have a neutral expression like you are listening. gerri: i like the blink rates. >> typically, what happens when we are anxious, fight or flight kicks in, we blink, get emotionally aroused if you will. the regular rate is anywhere from 17-20 blinks per minute. on tv, upwards of the 40-50 times. once we feel pressure, it goes up in in the debates, obama blinked more than romney did in this situation, but that's the first debate. romney blinks less overall. gerri: yes. i've seen numbers on that. the things they keep tr

irvetion grimace, sneer, smirk, laugh, whatever you call it, everybody is talking about it. >> joe took a couple of dpief-hour energy drinks beforehand, maybe he overdid it. obviously, he has very white teeth. >> i love that. >> he likes to grimas and grin as much as possible. >> here's someone tuning in, undecided, what you saw was a class act in paul ryan. saw somebody up for the job and joe biden was joe biden. >> talk about the great recession, as if it fell out of the sky, like, oh, my goodness, where did it come from? >> i am aware that the consensus seems to be that biden was mean... rude... disrespectful. the joe biden that you saw last night is the democrat party. it is the modern democrat party, particularly the last 12 years. that's who they are. >> incredible. >> biden did exactly what was desired. in the process hurt himself and obottom aisle the vice-president is authentic. what you see is what you get. he didn't bring a bunch of political talking points like congressman ryan i think he reached a lot of americans. >> i don't think you should be laughing during a discussion

when he thanked joe biden, he was smirking. i thought that came across as very disrespectful and symbolic of the way he handled the night. >> joe biden did what his boss did not, which is continually hammer the 47% comment that mitt romney made and was talking about how mitt romney believes that 30% of the american people are takers, that's my mom, that's my dad, he said. >> the obama campaign has to be very happy about what biden did there. i was surprised that the president didn't do it in the last debate. i think that biden made a lot of strong points. again, i don't know did women find him likeable? the other thing, i thought about it midway through the debate, the obam campaign may not care. they may have sent him out there to drive through the points, hammer them, no one is voting for president of the united states, whether or not they like joe biden. i would have made him more likeable. but it may have been about scoring points and pushing through, bringing up the 47% and really driving it. >> and paul ryan had the last

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and obama was making that -- that giggle or smirk face. and he was president even listening. >> if somebody is talking, the republican ad was brilliant. they took something obama couldn't control which is his face -- what do you do when somebody else is talking? what do you do? there is going to be a camera on you. i would instinctively be picking my nose or something. >> it happens every half time report. they have andy on one side and me on the other. when andy is talking i look like a dunce. >> but they have coaches surrounding them to cor choreograph their every move. work on it. >> did you ever coach a president? >> you don't do what gore did and go -- >> that was great. i want to talk about some of the odder media responses to the debate, and there were tons. not literally a ton because that is 2,000 pounds. the funniest is al gore. for you kids he was secretary of cats or something. here is goring's explanation for for -- here is gore's explanation for the sukiness. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today, just a few hours bef

the smirks, the interruptions, was he too amped up? congressman paul ryan thankfully no mention of big bird but a grover did come up. norquist, that is. and a tight race, could a third guy play spoiler? it's a potential issue and a handful of swing state. we're going to take a deep dive and talk to one of those potential po potential spoilers. good morning again. it's friday, october 12th, 2012. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. i have ted strickland, ron johnson, congressman from the same party who almost came to blows. that's going to be a little later in the show. let me get to our first reads before i get to the governor who is ready to go. vice president joe biden trying to calm down supporters, still upset over president obama's performance last week went with the kitchen sink approach. congressman paul ryan embraced the do no harm strategy. joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will

(laughter) not a smirk like this-- (laughter) and definitely not a big bright rick human smile like this-- hume smile like this (laughter) so ultimately, folks, choosing the leader of the free world is clearly all about how it looks. so for those of you who did not have an hour and a half to waste last night, here's how it looks. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. (applause) (laughter) (applause) thank you and good night. >> stephen: pretty much captures it. now of course a lot of belly acres on the left, incidentally bellyaching not covered under romney's plan, insisted on paying attention to the words they said, and pointed out that mitt changing almost all of his positions could backfire. like this from npr. romney goes on offense. pays for it in first wave of fact checks. oh no! mitt could lose the fact checking race. quick, some fact checker should research how many electoral college votes the swing state of fact checkelsvannia has. because-- because i think-- i think-- i think it's even fewer than north i don't give a [bleep]. folks, the fact check mafia is just a b

when he smirks like that.t's not a good expression to hold. >> bill: i agree. >> concern. i'm listening to you, not the huh, that silly smirk that he does. >> bill: i need your advice. tomorrow when i go out on stage to meet jon stewart. >> yeah. >> bill: my instinct is to get him in a hammer lock right away. physically pummel him so i he would be off his game for the rest of the debate. would that be good body language. >> that won't work out well. you may be seen as aggressive. >> bill: people already know i'm aggressive. stewart thinks i'm yeddi anyway. no hammer lock? >> i would stay with him. >> bill: just be nice. >> gentle. the perfect man you always are. >> bill: yeah. when we get right back. the rumble in d.c. between stewart and me. how will it stack up against the debate between obama and romney? gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts on both situations. the boys are next. >> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. in the what the heck just happened segment tonight? the whole country waiting

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joe biden smirking and laughing his way through it. wipe that smirk off your face, joe.nothing funny about what is going on with this recovery in the deep end that government. john, you say there are serious problems here. laughing about them, smirking about them doesn't help them either. >> no, thank you for hang me back by the way, neil, and absolutely, this is not the time for anybody to be smiling frankly, if you look into the eyes of the average person across the nation, they are doing anything but smiling. and with good reason. you know, they are uncertain, they are fnkly scared about what tomorrow will bring. we get taxed on regulation upon mandate, upon lawsuit, they have good reason to be doing anything but smiling. they would like to, but they are terrified. >> maybe you could explain to me between -- for lack of a better word, average americans and their basses. average americans depending on the survey are feeling a tad more confident. not a lot more, but a little bit. their bosses are not feeling that way so much. i always worry about that. because if i'm ha

biden smirking did kind of bothered me a good bit. other than that, i was undecided until the abortion topic. i have a hard time with the democrats's explanation. it's a woman's right to choose because it's her body, they say. if it's a person's body, why do i have to put my seat belt on when i get in my automobile, put on my helmet when on? on? or why not go to the local wal- mart and get whatever drug i want to put in my body? how come everybody else does not get to have that privilege over their own body? host: anita on our support president obama line in yazoo, mississippi. caller: good morning. i stopped the debate was wonderful. vice president biden did a very good job against paul ryan. the abortion topic, with a woman were raped or had a disability or sickness, why should they not make a decision if they want to give life or end life? that's a woman's decision. obama has done a wonderful job. if they allow obama and other four-year term, i'm sure he can straighten out everything. everybody is pushing against obama about what's

. >> the moments were joe biden's smirks, smiles and laughter while paul ryan was speaking. he is facing criticism. >> their own actuary said 1 out of 6 hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this. >> no it isn't. >> 7.4 million seniors are project to do lose the current advantage they have that's a benefit cut. >> that didn't happen. >> these are from your own actuaries. >> mr. vice president -- i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> let's calm down a little bit here. iran is more isolated today than when we took office. it was on the ascend den see when we took office. it is totally isolated. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place in spite of their opposition. they have given 20 waivers to this sanction and all i have to point to are the results. they are four years closer toward a nuclear weapon. you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> moth

. >> he might have won but lost if you look at smirk and snarl. >> my former colleague said one of the measures of the debate before the romney debate. who cuts the adand the rnc has the adof laughter. and very effective in the post debate. what are people going to remember? they will not remember the fine points. they will remember joe biden's mannerisms . michael goodwin said he was laughing in the begin angry in the end and it was not clear if his medication is wearing off. >> if you like joe biden you liked it. and if you didn't you thought it was a bore. what about the people in the middle? >> it was not the interruptions only but the condescending manner that turned off the voterss and thea may haunt the ticket later on >> do you think paul ryan rose to the presidential level on foreign policy? >> he did. look that a bit of a mixed performance at times. he scored heavily talking about libya and benghazi in the beginning and talking about american projecting its image in the world and some thought it was his most effective lines of the entire debate. i think there was less of a go

you could tell right away and republicans were talking about the smirks the smiles. making jokes about this guy and his teeth. >> you know, when somebody is ready to make a point you interrupt them to try to throw them off and try to get the audience not to listen what was being said. >> they called it the heckler's defense, that is what biden was doing. biden was heckling ryan. >> you can't interrupt more pinkerton. now you are smiling at him. >> and sponsored by anheuser-busch. >> and let's be clear about this raditz was playing with the biden team. she was letting biden interrupt ryan and she was interrupting herself. listen, martha if you are going to play on biden's team you can't be the moderator. you can't be two on one. >> jon: we'll focus her on the next block. but joe biden with 36 years in the senate was built up as the experienced debater. that was the mean going into this into the press. what about ryan? how was he cast? >> i think each side is happy with the outcome because each side felt their guy did pretty well. i think ryan demonstrated an amazing a

it was the means created today and biden's smirking and interrupting.two boys if either of them acted toward another human being the way that joe biden acted toward paul ryan i'd take away video games for a month. it's not acceptable and i don't think it's something the obama campaign can be excited about. one take away, paul ryan spent his dae by the time talking about mitt romney. joe biden spent his debate time talking about joe biden and that's the different. the goal of a vice-presidential debate do no harm and promote the guy on the top job and pretty clear that joe biden thinks he should have the top job. stuart: and a clear question, going into the debate the romney camp clearly had momentum. do you think that debate stopped that forward momentum for the romney camp? >> i really don't. let's say that the snap polls you cited earlier and that joe biden won going away. i don't concede that fact, if it is true, 1988 probably the best performance of a vice-presidential nominee, lloyd benson and george w. bush still won 40 states. and the vice-presid

on policy issues they both got in good jabs but in terms of smirk versus grim, i go with smirk. >> i'med about the smirk. >> have you ever called in sick for an unusual reason? >> i've got some unusual ones that i found out but apparently a lot of people do call in sick for different reasons. >> a new survey finds 30% of people fake a sick day when they don't feel like coming in to work. often using some very creative excuses. here are a couple of them. i called in sick because my sobriety tool would not allow my car to start. my toe was stuck in a faucet. a bird hit me. >> this is my favorite. >> and my dead grandmother was being exhumed for a police investigation. >> has anybody else had that problem? i've not had that problem. >> but the problem i have is that usually when people want to call in sick they don't even have to give an excuse, they just send an e-mail and say, "i'm sick." i think we should pay people for sick days, if you actually take it, you reduce their salary. i think that would reduce sickness in this had country. >> calling in well then isn't going to work. >> no,

knock that smirk off your face.calling him "my friend." >> this is what he wants to do. >> this is how exercised he gets. >> meanwhile if you were watching the vice presidential debate you know that joe biden used the word fact a lot in fact here are the facts this is the fact. >> those are the facts. >> he used the word fact 26 times. so the fact checkers had a field day with going back and looking back if what both candidates really were the fact. >> you don't have to worry about fact checkers being under employed in this country. >> recession-proof. >> they have been so busy right now on both sides. because he said facts so many times the number of news organizations took the opportunity to take him on at his word about all of these things being facts, of course, here is vice president biden talking about taxes. was it a fact or fiction. take a listen. >> middle class will pay less and people making a million dollars or more about begin to contribute slightly more. >> that one is an interesting one because he use

twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a terrorist attack. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know. >> there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. >> they're pushing continuation of tax cuts giving an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they're holding hostage a middle class tax cut because they say we won't pass and won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you give the tax cut to the super wealthy. it's time they take responsibility. >> do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> 10%. w

the expression on his face, an expression, are familiar with, it's kind of a half smile, not a smirk. he was looking at the president, while he spoke, was probably better than having him looking down as president obama did. on body language, if that's what that is, those are my observations. >> joe, one of the messages the president seemed to want to get across was that in his view, governor romney wasn't offering specifics and they needed to hear sprvegs. in part, governor romney answered, saying, my experience as governor, you don't announce of a piece of legislation and say it's my way or the highway, that's not how you get things done. but in general, he was saying that he is offering specifics, but can't get too specific because you won't have a meaningful bipartisan debate that results in real legislation. your thoughts on how that exchange went between the two of them? >> well, i think the president's probably trying to get to the fact that we are finding that a lot of people are saying in the polls that they don't feel they know the specifics about the romney plan to vote for

i think you will see obama being more aggressive but without the smirking and without -- >> and moreangerous potentially. >> and with the difficulty of the next debate. when ordinary people are asking the question, it's hard to do that and turn to your opponent and attack. >> one of the problems the obama campaign has had had is before denver they were careful not to have the president be aggressive in his attacks because it would have a knock on his numbers. you see that now. there's a lot of independent who are still interested in voting for him because he likes him. if he's very mean and nasty the way biden was this week, that could hurt him more, especially among sub groups like women. >> when we come back, the congressional hearing on libya seeds new light on what happened before and during and after the attack and raises new questions about the administration's response. >> we will get to the bottom of it, and wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public that whatever mistakes were made will not be made again. [ male announcer ] a

and the debates i agree with mort, you don't -- you don't need to smirk at me, mort. [ laughter ] >> i was smirking at buchanan. >> the debates are very critical in this internet age, the face-to-face captors are really important, otherwise we might have had governor rick perry as the republican nominee. >> hold on, pat. >> let me make a point. >> go ahead. >> biden and obama both did rally their base, biden in the second -- the president in the second debate, biden. but by rallying their base, just like republicans in their primaries rally their base, they damage themselves in the center and among women. look at how mitt romney has moved among women in these two debates and how the biden have >> we're going to get that now. another tender trap, equality for women. >> i mentioned 3 1/2 million women more now in poverty than four years ago. what we can do to help young women and women of all ages is to have a strong economy, they bought us whole binders full of women. i was proud of the fact that after i staffed my cabinet and my senior staff that the university of new york in albany