smithson has been very motivated from the outset.g or he's going to comment. he's very attentive in all education sessions. when you look at him, he's always taking notes and asking questions. >> but three weeks in, carroll is out of the program. >> what happened with mr. carroll was there was a disagreement between two of his peers. he got up out of his rack, went to the bathroom area, put on his shoes, which is an indication of threatening and intimidating behavior. and as a result of that, he was put out of the program. >> the penitentiary mentality still running. being overaggressive, wanting to fight people. again, he wants to put his shoes on and fight people, and it wasn't even his problem. it was somebody else's problem, but they was in the penitentiary together. you know how to goes. he's a good person and everything, when it comes to a friend, but when it comes to the program, he was just telling everybody what they want to hear and stuff like that. i ain't dogging him. i'm not saying something i wouldn't say to him. it's a

tara title since group one africa is in the smithson's carry out a mass murderer of students in nigeria just a week after a separate group conducted a deadly outside on a shopping mall in the kenyan capital. on the israeli prime minister abbas to prove to the u. awesome the yuan that it was change of tone is nothing much has swung screen as recent signals of a soul in relations with the west whale to soothe benyamin netanyahu has called the tip of the stalin's.

amy smithson from proliferation studies says your body starts to shut down, your nerves start to shutn, you start to suffocate from within. the symptoms we're seeing in these videos, the difficulty seeing, the foaming at the mo mouth, the twitching, all consistent with exposure to sarin gas. and you have to take blood, hair, in and the deceased victims, brain tissue samples and run them through what's called a gas chrometography system that can verify that sarin gas was used in these cases, fredricka. >> david kaye, let me bring you into this. we have seen, meaning the television viewing public, have seen versions of video that look very similar to this. frothing at the mouth, someone shaking, eyes die lalated. how are these videos different from what you've seen? >> they're very much the same because these videos have been uploaded to youtube. i would just add on the authentication, and particularly the authentication of who did it, there is something to look forward to in the u.n. inspectors' report. the syrians use a form of sarin called binary. you take two chemicals that are not

amy smithson, thank you for joining us.will continue the conversation tomorrow morning on "washington journal." jeremy mayer will be joining us. he's a professor at george mason university with background on the war powers act. and the president of sciu. that is all tomorrow morning on "washington journal." coming up next. thank you for joining us on this labor day weekend. we hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. have a great weekend. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> today on c-span, "newsmakers " with tom donohue. then remarks from richard trumka. deliversnet napolitano her farewell address.

. >> reporter: amy smithson is studying the use and affects of chemical weapons for years and it waso that erased all doubt. >> maybe 5 years old and the twitching of the eyes and the mouth and the arms were all going in different directions at different times. that simply cannot be coached in a child of that age. >> reporter: here's another. with white foam pouring out of his nose. what is that and what does it mean? >> well, it's one of the hallmark symptoms of exposure to a nerve agent. it could have been a cocktail of chemicals, not just classic warfare agents like saran or vx. >> reporter: victims can die within ten minutes of saran gas. even contaminated clothes can hurt you. iraq used saran in the 1980s killing thousands. the japanese cult used saran in terrorist attacks in the mid-'r09d. the people treating the victims don't have any sort of respirators on. why aren't they infected, as well? >> there's an attempt to wet the people down to decontaminate them. that's what decontamination in a rush is all about. making sure that they're at least doused with water if not soapy wa

. >> reporter: amy smithson is studied chemical weapons for 20 years and said it was the child in this video that erased all doubt. >> maybe 5 years old and the twitching of the eyes and the mouth and the arms were all going in different directions at different times. that simply cannot be coached in a child of that age. >> reporter: and here's another. with white foam pouring out of his nose. what is that and what does it mean? >> well, it's one of the hallmark symptoms of exposure to a nerve agent. it could have been a cocktail of chemicals, not just classic warfare agents like sarin or vx. >> reporter: victims can die within ten minutes of breathing sarin gas. in liquid form a fraction of an ounce can be fatal. even contaminated clothes can hurt you. iraq used sarin against the kurdish people in the 1980s killing thousands. the japanese cult used sarin in terrorist attacks in the mid-'90s. the people treating the victims don't have respirators or protection on. why aren't they getting infected, as well? >> there's been an attack to wet the people down to decontaminate them. that's w

amy smithson, thank you for joining us. apparent use of chemical weapons in syria and how the u.s. should react has dominated news on capitol hill today. secretary of state john kerry offered the latest from the administration. here is some of what he said on "meet the press" this morning. [video clip] >> united states is strongest when the congress speaks with the president, when the american people are invested, because we have had an appropriate vetting of all the facts. let me add this morning a very important recent development, that in the last 24 hours, we have learned, through samples that were provided to the united states that have now been tested from first responders in east damascus and hair samples and blood samples have tested positive for signatures of sarin. so this case is building, and this case will build. i do not believe that my former colleagues in the united states than it and the house will turn their backs on all of our interests, the credibility of our country, the norms with theect to the enforce

i talked to the expert of proliferation studies the other day, amy smithson. she says it's not the kind of things you see on these videos, the convulsion, the twitching at the mouth. your body will short-circuit. you will die within minutes. according to every expert we've spoken to, if you're exposed to enough sarin gas in a particular attack, your nerves will shut down and then you suffocate. these images are at least consistent with what appear to be the use of sarin gas. and as for the verification, fredricka, it may appear to some that because the syrian government shelled that neighborhood of damascus in the days after the august 21st chemical attack, maybe a lot of the evidence might have been degraded or contaminated. experts tell us that's not necessarily so. they can test in krcrevices, th can test in walls, they can test in clothing left over and still get a very accurate sample. they run it through a gas chrom chromotographer that can confirm the use. that is undoubtedly what the u.n. inspectors are doing now. >> let's bring in former u.n. inspecto

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