that's making smore if they have a settlement, the person has to say that they engaged in wrong doingcar or store, you can't get a settlement saying aisle settle, not add milt to wrong doing. what that does, ashley, is creates what is really corrosive to our society. i really mean corrosive, and that is people begin to believe there's two levels of justice in the country. one for people that have the money and the wherewithall, and other for the middle class and rest of us. that is a very bad thing. in addition, it's bad because we know for a fact that one of the places where deterrent works for criminal activity is with white collar crime. white collar crime can be discouraged if there's a real deterrent, they go to jail, and so far, no one's gone to jail in the whole thing. you have to be worried that the people who are doing what they were doing that got us into the mess are continuing to do it, not worrieded about the fact if they are caught, they go to jail. ashley: more than a thousand people were convicted after the much smaller savings and loans scandal of the 1980s. >> right.