smulian could become suspicious. viktor definitely had coached smulian to be very careful. have several meetings down in curacao between andrurks mike snow and our two sources, carlos and el commandante. he played the role of a farc commander, a military guy operating in the jungles fighting the colombian government. he is another dea source. former drug trafficker. knows an awful lot about the farc. knows an awful lot about weapons and drug trafficking and is a very, very believable jungle leader. and he talked about what happens were needed. type of ammunition. and the list went on. it was a deal that would definitely pique viktor's special. we knew that a deal of this size would not take place unless they looked each other in the eye, they shook hands and knew who they were dealing with. >> we had to push it that smulian go to russia and actually meet with bout to make it happen. and smulian bought the farc role players as members of the farc. smulian was very interested in the deal. so after curacao, the plan was for smulian to go to moscow. we believed to meet with veh

. >> smulian had the personality people felt comfortable with him. statements, he would find a way to address it and get it across the finish line. >> after the meeting, carlos said hey, he pulled me asidewalking back from a meal and said what we went to see. >> why did he do this? >> i don't know. he was trying to impress me. >> it also showed that he had a righteous arm trafficker to supply to them and he would get some percentage of whatever the deal was going to be. >> once somalia said viktor bout, then we knew that we were in but that's only part of it. we could have all the meetings with andrew somalia but if we don't have a sit down meeting with viktor bout, we're not going to get what we need. >> all their efforts from that moment on was to get viktor to come in for a meeting and that's where we encountered some curveballs. t-mobile's newest most powerful signal is here. experience it with the amazing, new iphone 11. and right now, t-mobile has the best deal on iphone. get 4 lines of unlimited with 4 iphone 11 included for only $35 a line. a