the freedom riders were again part of snicc. same concept. because the bus stations throughout especially the deep south was still segregated. colored only waiting room, colored only water fountains. these 12 students got on the bus in washington, d.c. heading to new orleans. and every time the bus would stop at a bus station, they would get out, defy the law and go into the white only section. you can look at the panels here and see, they had a target on their backs because the local press would pretty much give their whole route of travel. so if you ever wanted to see them or harm them, you could pick up the paper and they would tell you where they were going to be. they got as far as aniston, alabama. a crowd was waiting for them on the side of the road. this is a replica of the bus. as the bus is burning, the passengers started flowing out of the bus and the klan started beating the snicc students. one of those students was john lewis, congressman john lewis. there's a photograph of him right here. shortly after with his friend jim zwerk.

>> snicc wanted too many demands. >> they weren't really focused, right? >> they had an important goal in a specific -- one specific thing that they needed to get done. they thought that the scoc was being too lenient in their demands and was only going to compromise with what they were and wasn't going to go for a full. >> so this is -- you really said that beautifully. >> i mean, snicc wanted to get rid of the whole structure of segregation and albany hadn't figured out how to do that. sclc, which was made up of older people, by and large, right, generally men, ministers who wore suits and were a bunch more kind of personally conservative in their world view as opposed to these younger students, male and female, were not so formal. and they wanted to get rid of segregation all at once. and what did some of that -- some of that tension ended up focusing on martin luther king himself, right? what was the problem with people and king? what was going on there? >> he was in kind of a sophomore slump after montgomery. >> it had been going on for some time, rig