none of these journalists are blaming snowden or these think tank experts who are blaming snowden areaying that because they are total cowards. they don't want to blame the media outlets for making these documents available to the public because they're petrified of losing their media access or because of craven careerism and don't to criticize the heads of these organizations because they are afraid of what impact that might not -- might have on their reputations or future career prospects. they try to dump the blame on edward snowden. the reality is, it is the leading media outlets that publish these documents and so the new york times editors who not only work at the paper that published a lot of these documents, they also have been defending's own for the last two years and they were the first establishment outlet to call for an amnesty to be given to snowden. i think "new york times" understands how odious and disgusting and how dangerous it is for the u.s. government to try to blame journalism and whistleblowers and transparency for their own failures and try and shift lame away

we've learned that snowden's behavior raised concerns when he worked at the cia. and when he left the agency, the cia put a red flag in his file in case snowden applied for another job. secrets. snowden had found a simple way to beat o.p.m.'s review of his security clearance. in the section about his job history, he said that his previous job was classified and he didn't give any more details. o.p.m. did not verify his previous employment as a result of that. >> hamre: obviously, after the fact, it's a great... it was a great mistake. >> pelley: what would you say is the greatest insider threat that we face as a result of the way these security clearances are done? >> hamre: snowden was an example of it. he moved into an enormously sensitive position. we control people at the gate, and once we give them a credential, they're in the compound. we don't pay attention to where they are after that. we don't organize our clearance process around the sensitivity of jobs; we organize them around people's background. and i think that's a big failing. about the other "glari

the failure with snowden was catastrophic. so our big elaborate, expensive system didn't prevent something that was truly important. >> pelley: we've obtained this internal memo that has not been public before. it's a warning to the head of the office of personnel management from the man who investigates the agency, o.p.m.'s inspector general, patrick mcfarland. it was written in 2013. mcfarland writes that snowden's background investigation was "deficient in a number of areas", and "o.p.m. itself did not identify that the report had glaring deficiencies." mcfarlrld concludes, "there may well be systemic problems." we've learned that snowden's behavior raised concerns when he worked at the cia. and when he left the agency, the cia put a red flag in his file in case snowden applied for another job. he did, a civilian job for the n.s.a. where he stole the secrets. snowden had found a simple way to beat o.p.m.'s review of his security clearance. in the section about his job history, h hsaid that his previous job was classified an

we have the former cia director jim on cnn last week saying edward snowden has blood on his hands and no longer just be electrocuted but hanged from his neck until he was dead. that inflammatory language still goes on despite there is no evidence that the attack issues in paris used the internet to plan attacks or use any encryption safeguards for all of us that have been put in place and actually have been that actually many internet providers are talking about at least a little more seriously since edward snowden's revelation and no evidence this had anything to do with paris attacks and found through official reviews in the u.s. that the mass and drag net of 215 the metadata collection did not foil one attack and didn't have an effect only counter terrorism operations despite the repeated of both bush era officials and obama era officials and were not telling the truth and had nothing to do with or have no effect on counter terrorism. >> the latest from washington d.c. and thank you. staying in the u.s. the police officer is among three people killed during a shooting at a family p

edward snowden revealed more than telephone mete data collection.or example, the ability to search what a user does on the internet. >> what is going to shut down is a fraction of what the n.s.a. does. otherwise people will still expand mass surveillance around the world. since attacks in paris. they are talking of expanding civilians. >> edward snowden has been used as a scapegoat. even though there's no evidence that the attackers used the internet to exploit safeguards or planning attacks. still, action was taken, and there has been some reform. given the secrecy of the u.s.a., it may take another whistleblower for us to see what has changed >>> a suspect behind the shooting of a family planning clinic in colorado is due to appear in court. 57-year-old robert deer is being held without bail. a police officer and two other people were killed during a 5 hour standoff. the motive behind the incident is not known. >> pope francis arrived in the central african republic for the final stop of his tour of africa. communal violence force d 1 million from

snowden releases. understand your own lives, and the context. , they use these services are not unique to us as citizens , to someone in britain, australia, canada, germany, the amount of information is incredible. it is insightful, and his penetrating, it is almost orwellian. data mining, data analytics, social engineering, can produce such a detailed map of your lives from the cradle to the grave. you need to think now. is this the world you want, is this internet you want, is is the connectivity that the world demands? if so, you give up elements of national freedom, and you pay for it one way or the other. we will all pay for it whether through a reduction of civil likely,s, privacy more and also a financial cost. a digital device within the .tates is partly generational the availability, and low-cost of the technology will decrease over time. together. in it it is like a brain, it is an incredible series of connections. it is the greatest human accomplishment, potentially, i do think that there is

amy: you are warning about surveillance long ago, long before edward snowden, the edward snowden revealedpresident obama had a decision to make whether to continue the mass surveillance state, the mass surveillance of americans, not to mention others. talk about the decision that he made, the difference he has now made in history. have twos book i chapters about surveillance. and one of them, it is only about what happened under obama both before and after edward snowden. the other one tries to take everything we now know because of the snowden links and the government declassification as a result of these snowden links, of how surveillance developed in the 1970's up until 2009 and put it together in a coherent story. there has been the secret history of how technology and spying powers changed that we did not know and now it is noble. i open that historical chapter with a briefing that obama gave on february 4, 2009, right at that moment where i was thinking there was nothing left for me to do but was also starting to realize, what about these things they say they're going to keep? obama

after the snowden revolutions, these pendulum swung too far back.sabuse people of the notion that the nsa was listening to their phone calls. at the end of the day, the process worked we passed the usa freedom act. it dialed back the patriot act. it got rid of the meta-data collection program. as they areearful now. the pendulum does swing. as in everything else, i response to these terrorists, we need to call matt fear and continue to deal with this and do it in an intelligent way. lay out some ways you think policy should change? congressman: i would say we've got a lot of work we need to do with the government level. and theaw from the hack loss of that data within the government. companies like sony, the list is long and we can make our networks more secure. we are only five or six years into concentrating on this. individually, there's a lot we can do. i know people who open attachments from e-mail addresses they don't recognize. there is a lot we can achieve while the have that debate. propose a convention. can you explain what that is and wha

understand the issues, the snowden releases at the prism programs have had.derstand your own lives and the context. ..

what was it you said. >> about snowden?i said i thought he ought to be brought back to the united states and tried before a jury of his piers if convicted of treason which i think is the appropriate charge. i would give him the death sentence and i would prefer to see him hanged by the neck until he was dead rather than merely electrocuted. >> wow. >> i think the blood of a lot of these french young people is on his hands. >> but presidential candidate rand paul says the paris attacks absolutely do not justify morevt spying. when they stand up on television and say the tragedy in paris means you have to give up your liberty we need more phone surveillance. bull [bleep] [cheers] >> joining us with reaction in washington, d.c. senior magazine and in florida michael suleman a former nypd special voter. michael, you police the biggest city in america. in your opinion do we need more or less surveillance. >> i listen to rand paul and i'm scratching my head the man is a opt monthly gist he should have his eyes see the nose on his

edward snowden revealed more than telephone mete data collection. for example, the ability to search everything a user does on the internet. or a collection of 2 million text messages. >> what is going to shut down, according to former white house counterterrorism star is a fraction of what the n.s.a. does. otherwise people are probably expanding mass surveillance around the world. >>> and since the recent attacks in paris, some u.s. politicians are talking of expanding surveillance. >> edward snowden has been used as a scapegoat. even though there's no evidence that the attackers used the internet to exploit safeguards or planning attacks. given the secrecy of the u.s.a., it may take another whistleblower for us to see what has change said >>> now to talk to the co-director of the brennan center's programme. she is welcoming the roll back. >> i think it's a good first step, as we advocates like to say. the telephone mete data programme was a first edward snowden revelation and shocked the country. it related to the domestic collection with informat

had -- edward snowden had gotten on the phone to you? >> i would have met him anywhere. i would have done whatever he wanted. >> rose: because? because i think edward snowden's revelations were really important to an international debate and i wish they had been in the "new york times" first. >> rose: about how how far we're prepared to invade privacy in the interest or guise of national security? >> no matter what anyone thinks of how much surveillance a government should be able to do, president obama himself said, affidavit snowden revelations, that there wasn't a debate about it. there wasn't a debate. government made a giant decision with no debate and no discussion, and edward snowden's revelations revealed that. >> rose: when you look at national security, do you believe this administration -- i think you have said their attitude of the obama administration in its stance on leaks is "disturbing." >> yes, they investigate jim risen, one of our best reporters. it is disturbing. >> rose: more so than the bush administration? >> you k

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as edward snoa edward snowden proved, the obama administration didn't justify its actions by claiming that a president during war time has the right to act like a king and do whatever necessary to protect his people. instead the obama team relied on sophisticated legal arguments to continue bush-era policies with only slight changes. don't forget that obama is a lawyer while bush and cheney were ceos and the role of lawyers shaping national security policy helps explain a man that helped personal privacy protection took a turn that many are deeply troubled by. power wars, charlie savage, i asked him whether it's fair to say obama broke a campaign promise. >> as obama started to gofn, he wagovern,he was going to close gitmo, we know after edward snowden he kept a surveillance that was vast. in some ways he betrayed the promises of his campaign rhetoric that he was going to change the war on terrorism. his people though would push back against that. part of what i'm doing in this book is going behind the scenes to one of these legal dilemmas after another after another. what is happenin

by sunday, 2 1/2 years ago the controversial program was exposed by former nsa contractor edward snowdenmore on this who are joined from washington d.c. so it was discovered 2 1/2 years ago now, it is finally closing down, do we or the government have any idea how effective this method of surveillance actually has been until now? >> a number of official reviews that say despite official process stations both from bush era officials and current obama administration officials like the director of the cia, director of national intelligence it didn't thwart one terror attack with a drag net surveillance of american call data, metadata, length and duration of location of calls and so on and completely useless and as federal courts found out it was utterly unconstitutional as well but still had defenders and because of snowden leaks debate began and light was shown on this program and this at least means the u.s. won't be hovering up all of american metadata and call data and storing it in enormous servers and people in nsa who were saying this is a bit unwieldy and not effective so u.s. freed

also the former head of the nsa has said that edward snowden should be hanged and so on.blood on his hands but again we have to remember there is no evidence that the paris attackers used the internet in their planning for the attacks or did use any encryption or policy safeguards that are in place. so it is a bit of a red herring but those who are against any reform have pounced on the paris attacks. >> with the latest from washington d.c., thank you. more to come in the news hour including green peace delivers a message to world leaders as paris prepares for the coptic 21 climate talks plus president obama is heading to par 'tiss paris with a plan to drastically cut carbon emissions but not everyone back home is on board, i'm kristen in west virginia where there is strong opposition. >>> and also coming up, a rugby great jona is given a traditional send off in new zealand. ♪ ♪ reminder of the top stories on al jazeera, syrian opposition forces say they have gained ground against the government in aleppo province, al-qaeda affiliate al-nusra front helped in fighting, tur

but edward snowden's actions in disclosing the breath of the u.s.surveillance of its own people has brought an end to much of the national security agency's bulk collection of american phone records. we now know that the dragnet failed to disrupt even one terror plot and a federal court has declared it unconstitutional. but the nsa isn't completing ending mass metadata collecting. especially when so many phone calls are made over the internet. >> international calls will still be collected. but the other thing that they bulk collect sent net communications and because so much of americans' internet communications happen to go overseas, those continue to get pulled. >> reporter: dragnet surveillance of telephone metadata and anything else in the rest of the world will continue. only those in the u.s. have some protection from the constitution. as far as washington is concerned, everyone else is fair game. the responsibility of their own governments. and as snowden's leak showed, they are often cooperating with the u.s. in the surveillance of their ci

. >> clearly snowden.t that the way that he trickled out the ideas, in the revelations, just made it much moreyyhg sensationalist ying tht is. . >> we are going to be more likely to miss things we should have caught, and as soon as there's another attack everyone will sea this is an intelligence failure. with we choose to disarm ourselves a nation it's not the intelligence community's fault when he mills the signal. >> mike barrett, we appreciate your expertise this afternoon and your time. >> sure thing. >> we move on to pope francis who called for peace between christians and muslims while visiting africa. the leader of the catholic church delivered a message of forgiveness at the capital city's main mosque, saying religion can never justify vie violence. it was the pope's first vivid to an active conflict zone. armed christian militias have been patrolling outside, and despite the security risks, he traveled in an open-air popemobile. the pope is now back on his way home to the vatican. >>> he is accuse

kennedy: do have you another edward snowden, is there someone else you are communicating with, who worksational security. >> about a month ago we published what probably was most sensitive and important leak of top secret documents about the drone program, we call the drone papers, we were clear about fact that is a source of government of that not snowden. in last two weeks we published an article based to leak of millions of recorded phone calls between prisoners and people outside, including their lawyers, so yeah we're creating technology to let people in government communicate with us securely to leak information to us. kennedy: are you a trader? >> you know, i went to law school, i did a lot of reading of the founding fathers and federalist papers and like for me what united states is, are those values, i think that journalism i do, and whistle-blowers is an affirmation of those valleys, these attacking them are in the government who are expanding their power at the expense our libertys. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. kennedy: coming up, panel returns, john kasich calls for

. >> cal perry, since the snowden revelations, silicon valley has been moving away from cooperation withlutely. i think that's been the popular thing to do to protect civil liberties and that's exceptionally important. but we've reached a new reality where isis is penetrating in ways in which they haven't, where science lie convalley needs to pitch in and help out. we're seeing a change in the way we educate our kids. it's the next generation that is going to take this fight on. the kids who are learning mind craft and how to program from the first grade on i think that's who will take this fight to isis. >> let's listen to what hillary clinton had to say about this. it's basically the same thing. we've just heard diane feinstein say. >> we need silicon valley, not to view government as its adversary, we need to challenge our best minds in the private-sector to work with our best minds in the public sector. to develop solutions that will both keep us safe and protect our privacy. now is the time to solve this problem, not after the next attack. >> colonel schafer it's hard to imagine a d

edward snowden revealed that.rlie: you look at national security and do you believe this administration? you have said the attitude of the obama administration and the stance on leaks is disturbing. dean: yes. they prosecute and they investigated one of our best reporters. it is disturbing. charlie: more so than the bush administration? dean: you know, here is why i'm not willing to go there, the whole technology and the ability every day, every year, it started with bush and continued through the obama administration. more foreign policy and national security is conducted in secret than ever before and it is one of the great stories of our time. it continues today and is probably accelerated because of the availability of drones. when that happens, governments inherently become secret and prosecute leaks more. i don't know if that means the obama administration does it more because we conduct more form policy in secret every year. charlie: my last easy question. you won't do investigative reports on the new york

edward snowden, chelsea manning and aaron alexis. snowden and manning had reams of classified documents and alexis killed dozens of people at the navy yard. >> aaron alexis was profoundly psychotic when he hunted employees in a u.s. navy office in 2013. he was armed with a shotgun and a clearance to handle military secrets. >> he was able to exploit his access to building where he murdered his colleagues. 12 of his colleagues. others wounded. >> reporter: paul stockton is a former assistant secretary of defense who led an investigation in to the massacre. what was with it about his security clearance that jumped out at you right from the start? >> aaron alexis should have never been granted a security clearance. >> reporter: this is a draft the public has never seen of a separate federal investigation in to the allege ai lex sis case. in his security clearance application, alexis said he lived in seattle but worked in manhattan. no one asked about that. alexis told the investigator that a felony arrest on his record for letting air o

surveillance in 2013 at the moment in time that the snowden revelations happened, okay? another snapshot is u.s. commercial privacy enforcement. i think, i think, at the moment in time when the first safe harbor was entered into in the year 2000, so that's the second snapshot. and then they didn't take a third snapshot. and that was a snapshot of eu surveillance through the member state intelligence agencies in 2013, also around the time of the snowden revelations. and so i think these three snapshots are important because they all go to this question of adequacy. the safe harbor foundation is a decision taken that the u.s. system of privacy was inadequate in the year 2000 versus the eu system, okay? and then they made some incremental changes, agreed to make incremental changes to the u.s. privacy regime so that they could close the gap between the eu system and the u.s. system. so that was done back in the year 2000. and then the schrams decision comes along. and the court says that because of mass surveillance in the u.s. as revealed by edward snowden in 2013, the saf

campaign promise. >> as obama started to gofn, he wagovern,he was going to close e know after edward snowden he kept a surveillance that was vast. in some ways he betrayed the promises of his campaign rhetoric that he was going to change the war on terrorism. his people though would push back against that. part of what i'm doing in this book is going behind the scenes to one of these legal dilemmas after another after another. what is happening to this world that people are talking about. why it's important to pay attention to the lawyering and when we know about obama from that perspective. one of the things that arises this is an extremely lawyerly administration, putting constraints and recognizing source he of power, power that they're going to exercise. and in hindsight now we see something that was not as clear at the time during the bush years ago. that there were two different strands of criticism among the left and some on the right of what bush and dick cheney were doing after 9/11. there was a civil liberties critique and one of law. the civil liberties said the state shouldn't ha

emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden. kim: i think he is a hero.ire him for his courage. he will be remembered in history as one of the great people of our time. emily: what is he up to now? kim: he is happy, he is fine. he is in russia. i think he is pleased that the debate has been triggered, based on the good things he has done. especially to americans. emily: when it comes to china, iran, islamic terrorists, the united states government, what are you most worried about when it comes to spying, hacking? kim: i am worried about the situation in ukraine. i think putin is someone i would be very careful with. i think that obama has done a good thing in negotiating with iran and trying to find a resolution to this nuclear standoff. emily: what about some of the other countries? like north korea and sony? should we be concerned about north korea? kim: well, you do not really believe that north korea hacked sony. i do not believe that for a minute. emily: who did, then? kim: well, some sophisticated group that has an interest in what hollywood is doin

contractored war snowden. the code director of the liberty and national security program, she is well coming the act. >>> i think it is a good first step as we advocates like to assay. the telephone mandated program was the first snowden regulation and shocked the country because it related to the domestic collection of information about americans. so at the very heart of the privacy protections of the constitution. so the modifications to this particular program are very, very significant and it is the very first roll back of surveillance authorities that we've seen since 911 because everything else has been expansion, but i think it is important not to overstate the importance of this because the section 215 program, which was shut down, is only one way in which the government collects met adata and even telephone met adata. there is a series of over lapping authorities that are used to collect information, most of which we know nothing about >>> the suspect behind a shooting at a family planning clinic in t

bill, i want to go with you on this, the nsa, edward snowden, we know the story.reaction that we left america and the world vulnerable now? >> i think the world is more vulnerable but i don't think it is solely because of edward snowden. what we're doing right now with this end encryption is the bain of intelligence that can keep this country safe. that's a given fact. we criticize nsa for the data mining and metadata retention, that's keeping facts in the warehouse in an inert condition. can people's privacy be violated by intrusion into these? absolutely they can. but there's a lot of checks and balances for taking care of that too from congress, both the senate and the house, from judges and what not, to take care of that. trying to take that out of the hands of nsa is like taking a police officer and one guy violates his trust with his gun, so we disarm all of law enforcement. that's what we're looking at here and doesn't make sense. charles: daniel, here's the thing, this week, the paris authorities, they had 79 3 raids, 182 in fact last night. they detained

and edward snowden 2013. you say the law's been augmented and changed under different provisions for some of these? >> the supreme court has changed its mind about some of the provisions of the espionage act over time and we can talk about that. congress has updated it some, pared it back some. the core of it, people would be a little bit surprised i think to know that there still are laws on the books that really do forcefully deal with the question of interfering with the united states' ability to mobilize in times of war. >> so beverly gage, we're going to turn to you to set the stage for us about the period in which this case arose. but we're going to do that with a little bit of video. we want to show people some protest songs and pictures from america really at the dawn of the new century as this country was making its decision about whether or not it was going to be involved in the great european war. let's watch. ♪ i didn't raise my boy to be a soldier ♪ ♪ i brought him up to be my pride and joy ♪ ♪ d