, and i don't believe snowden. host: where is he right now? dr. epstein: snowden is in moscow at an undisclosed location, under the protection of the russian government. host: bart gellman and his tweets -- i won't try to address every bizarreo claim -- talking about your book" past a certain point, bad faith work, oesn't merit the effort. dr. epstein: the ad hominem attacks -- i can't really say very much about gellman. he has a basically almost eligious commitment to his faith in the person who gave him this pulitzer prize. and was greenwald. they believe in him. when you argue with someone with faith, you are automatically wrong because you are violating what they believe in. faith of evidence is two different categories. i think this is become it eligious matter. anyone who contradicts snowden, even the house committee, gellman also attacked them with the same vicious comments. host: he said clearly it was an awful report. dr. epstein: he said that even efore they declassified the report, and the summary of the

snowden gave the russians nothing. can only come and from a single source, and that is snowden.ow gelman is repeating what snowden said. what i found is the opposite. i will give you four bits of direct bits of evidence that we may not believe, but they come from witnesses. .irst, vladimir putin he said snowden had contacted ,ussian diplomat's -- diplomats who authorized him -- snowden to come to russia. so he was in contact with russian officials. gujarati, whenly asked if snowden had given all in documents to journalists hong kong, he said no, he gave only some of them. had asked whether snowden brought -- he was in moscow at the time -- he brought documents to moscow or had them in moscow, undisclosed documents were secret material, i should be per site. -- precise. and he said yes. >> and this is his lawyer? dr. epstein: yes. we had overseas intelligence -- france, others who said snowden shared his intelligence with russian intelligence. they said that is when whatligence -- intelligence services do. i think he was correct. and we of the house select committee report -- hav

snowden: my name is edward snowden. i go by ed. >> were you suspicious of the sender of the emails in the beginning? >> i knew that was legitimate it would be dangerous, and i had to be very careful. >> he literally asked if he was -- if you are trying to trick him? >> he literally asked how to i know this is not entrapment? >> what did she prove in the documentary? documentary,in the she used emails that snowden sent her. in those emails, he begins by governmenthe is a employee. you can see him at manipulating her by saying you are under surveillance, and in those emails he showed how she contacted greenwald and gelman. she put together what later became his network. then, she explains how they came to hong kong and interviewed him, and you see what you provided was his alternative narrative. it is a narrative i don't accept , because it comes from a single source. and the single source went to russia. >> you open up your book, among other things, with a quote from those that ascii -- do lstiestvski. why? dr. epstein:

but that is with snowden says. what the lawyer told me is that snowden has no money.e is absolutely broke and needs money, and he was speaking in russians i am giving my interpretation. he desperately needs money, so if you want to send him some money i will provide you with his defense committee. i will give you wiring instructions. and then, you know, a third possibility is that since he has defected to russia and it is traditional to pay defectors, we certainly do, the russian government is paying for his apartment, bodyguard, and whatever other facility he needs. he has a broadcasting studio. zone broadcasting studio in his home or apartment or wherever he lives. nobody knows where he lives. oliver stone doesn't know, and oliver stone got as close to him as anyone. brian: we are out of time. there is a lot more in this book. it is called "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and the theft," and our guest has been edward jay epstein. thank you very much. dr. epstein: thank you for a great interview. ♪ announcer: for free transcripts or to give us y

it's nsa leaker edward snowden. the report claims russia is trying to curry favor with the new administration. donald trump said snowden is a traitor and should be executed. snowden said he's not a spy because he says the russians would never hands over a spy. should snowden start packing his bags to come back to the united states? so julie, i will start with you. you are one of two russians on the panel. so snowden says obviously i'm not a spy because russia would never do that to one of their own. >> this what happens when you have squeeze the juice out of after lemon and the lemon gets

would welcome snowden's return. the kremlin told us that the talk of returning snowden to the u.s. was nonsense. and the white house? had no comment. and just moments ago, edward snowden reacted to our reporting, tweeting, finally, ir refutu refutable evidence that i never toyed with evidence. >> cynthia mcfadden in new york, thank you. >>> russia is also in the news concerning a storm of controversy swirling around national security adviser michael flynn. despite denials by members of the trump administration, including vice president pence, u.s. officials tell nbc news flynn did discuss sanctions with russia's ambassador before mr. trump became president. nbc's andrea mitchell has details. >> national security adviser mike flynn with a front-row seat at the white house today. but tonight under fire now admitting he might have talked to the russian ambassador about obama's sanctions before president trump took office. despite repeated denials from flynn and others in the administration. >> the only conversation that general flynn had was one, to wish him a merry christmas, two, to

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what would it take to put edward snowden on trial?first of all there it have to be a strong reason for russia to turn over edward snowden. also, you have to remember this is not just about what edward snowden did in terms of taking classified information and sharing it with the world. this will put the united states on trial in reference to looking how we take data, civilian data, cell phone information and how we use that how we spy on our allies. that will be on trial. that is what the defense will offer up in terms of edward snowden. they'll say he is a whistleblower. he's not a spy or a terrace. he showed the light to how the intelligence agents are spying. >> but others are saying he is a traitor. you heard what the president said that he has done so you have a fancy defense lawyer in court is that a valid of defense. >> you don't need a fancy defense lawyer waving stuff around. we have a constitution. the constitution involves due process for everyone no matter how guilty they look, no matter how guilty they are to be, is still

snowden says this report alone proves he was never a spy.ing the story. >> reporter: a government source tells fox news' catherine herridge that russia believes they have exhausted edward snowden's value, and he is more useful as a bargaining chip to russian president vladimir putin which implies the russians would give up snowden to the u.s. in return for something. what, we don't know. president trump has called the nsa whistleblower a, quote, terrible traitor and tweeted before he was president that snowden deserves to be executed. this information comes after an nbc report which seems to take things a step further than our reporting, citing two government officials. nbc reports that russia is considering handing over snowden to the u.s. as, quote, a gift to president trump in an attempt to curry favor with the president. the concept of a gift speaks the intent. a gift could mean that the russians would give up snowden for nothing in return which is different than a bargaining chip, but it also raises questions as to whether there is a mo

justice department officials say they would welcome snowden's return. he's facing federal charges that carry a minimum of 30 years in prison. >> thank you. >>> president trump's national security adviser is caught in the middle of a growing controversy tonight over russia, and a conversation with russian officials before the president took office. tonight, a white house official says president trump has confidence in michael flynn. initially flynn denied talking to a russian ambassador about president obama's sanctions against russia. and vice president mike pence defended flynn based on those early denials. now, flynn says he can't be 100% certain it didn't come up. no one has concluded that flynn broke the law. >>> now to a shooting that left a man dead in the parking lot of a local town home community. police are trying to get to the bottom of it, taking several people in for questioning. tonight, no word on the motive or arrests. shomari stone has been talking to neighbors. he's in montgomery village with more on all this. shomari? >> reporter: good

officials may send nsa leaker edward snowden back to the u.s. this morning, the reaction to the bombshell report. >>> if at first you don't succeed, president trump may sign a new executive order to get the travel ban enacted after defeats in court. meanwhile, the president saying he was unaware his national security advisor talked to russia before taking >>> and race against the clock. a last-ditch effort to save hundreds of beached whales. volunteers braving sharks and stingrays to form a human sea wall to stop the tragedy from escalating. what is behind the mystery? >>> and smart alec. >> yes, this is real life. >> alec baldwin promising a huge show as he gets ready to lampoon president trump again. fans line up since thursday to see him. baldwin gets set to host snl for a report 17th time. "today" saturday, february 11th, 2017. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> good morning. welcome to "today." i'm sheinelle jones. >> i'm craig melvin. on the walk in this morning, you alec baldwin. some

i just wanted to ask you about edward snowden. but you already answered that. i appreciate your answer. i wanted to congratulate the host. he's very nice and i like him. host: well thank you for that. and thank you liz for being here. we are still waiting for president trump to appear at a rally in florida, the event in melbourne should begin shortly. while we wait, we are going to show you more of today's "washington journal"

it's nsa leaker edward snowden.e report claims russia is trying to curry favor with the new administration. donald trump said snowden is a traitor and should be executed. snowden said he's not a spy because he says the russians would never hands over a spy. should snowden start packing his bags to come back to the united states? so julie, i will start with you. you are one of two russians on the panel. so snowden says obviously i'm not a spy because russia would never do that to one of their own. >> this what happens when you have squeeze the juice out of after lemon and the lemon gets thrown in the garbage. so what ends up happening web's disposable because whatever they got out of edward snowden they got upon arrival. whether he returns him intact or not intact. the real point is he's not setting him back. it makes sense for russia. they want to do them a giant favor. >> i think it would be big head cake for the administration. i think snowden has enough you fourth on both sides of the aisle. so i think this is ju

why edward snowden could be shipped back to the u.s.o win favor from president trump. >>> this is a sad one. bye-bye bao bao. the not so little panda getting close to her next adventure. a lot of emotion saying good-bye to her. >> i don't want to talk about it. >> we are going to talk abo this saturday morning. i'm david culver. >> i'm angie goff. glad to get your saturday morning started with us. and we wanted to get started with tom kierein. >> let's do it. hey there, tom. >> good morning. we've got a big, bright, full moon flooding the western sky with moonlight. there's the live view from our prince georges county camera. the big moon there gleaming off the potomac river. we will have our temperatures climbing by later this afternoon up into the upper 50s to near 60. right now we don't have anything coming from the clouds. but it's cold. we're down to near freezing. just about everywhere from the mountains to the bay. at the bay wears, it's in the upper 30s to near 40. nearby suburbs are hovering right around freezing. a look at tha

snowden, meanwhile, reacted on twitter posting, "finally.efutable evidence i never cooperated with russian intel. no country trades away spies. as the rest would fear, they're next." today a lawyer for snowden said all of this talk is just ordinary speculation. someone is indulging in wishful thinking. joining us for more, steve clemons, msnbc contributor and editor at large for "the atlantic." great to have you here to talk about this. how would this look for president trump? >> i think it could give donald trump an incredible gift. one that has said in flamboyant terms he sees edward snowden someone who should be executed for what he did. the lovefest between donald trump and vladimir putin is getting deeper and deeper if something like this were to happen. a big coup for donald trump and putin, having a friend in the white house looking over some of putin's and russia's interesting would look at a quid pro quo, i think in giving snowden back to the united states. >> i thought snowden's response was pretty interesting. what do you make of

lindsey graham and john mccain, marco rubio come all called edward snowden a traitor. so in some sense, they're consistent because they are saying the same thing, which is whoever leaked this information ought to be investigated, hunted down, and punished to the fullest extent of the law -- which is more or less what they said about whistleblowers under president obama. it is the democrats who have completely switched their position, as they so often do, the minute the party controlling the white house changed. amy: we're going to go to break. we will come back to this discussion and also talk about what happened at the white house yesterday with the netanyahu -trump meeting and so much more. we're speaking with journalist glenn greenwald, one of the intercept. his piece, "the leakers who exposed gen. flynn's lie committed serious -- and wholly justified -- felonies." stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. we are looking at the growing scandal over the trump administrat

the obama administration maintained that snowden must face charges. elizabeth: we haven't heard of end of this. brian, thank you. >> no problem. leyland: it happened last weekend and again this weekend, more protests in los angeles after reports of raids cracking down on illegal immigrants. why the anger at president trump may actually be misplaced. we'll have that from l.a. after the break. and house democrats huddle in baltimore to regroup, reset and perhaps a new attitude ahead of the 2018 mid terms. will it work? ♪ i've got a new attitude ♪ >> remember all the tough campaign talk about deporting illegal immigrants. it's becoming reality this week in at least six states. immigration and customs enforcement officers rounding up dozens of undocumented immigrants most with felony records and sparked outrage in some circles. will carr is in los angeles with the details. hi, will. >> hey there, liz, federal immigration officials fired back after advocates and politicians voiced outrage on raids around the country. 160 immigrants were arrested in reactio

secrets:merica lost in edward snowden, the man and the theft." >> you get enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say he did damage, they say he did enormous good. that is their view. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation. and he opened up a subject of thinkst, but where i trump is right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q and day. -- a. >> supreme court nominee neil gorsuch met with senators. among them, richard blumenthal of connecticut and ben sass of nebraska. if confirmed, he will replace justice antonin scalia who died in february 2016.

. >>> russia may give edward snowden as a gift to president trump. we'll have snowden's response. >>> good morning, this is nbc news 10 today. i'm rosemary connors. it's 5:00 on this saturday. we have the most accurate forecast in the region and so the roller coaster continues. krystal? >> that's right, a very cold day expected today. here's a look at the temperatures outside. currently we're at 28 degrees in pottstown and 31 in philadelphia. 30 for northeast philadelphia and 20 in pocono, lancaster at 27. but look farther south, much more mild than we saw yesterday morning. dover at 40, wildwood at 41 and atlantic city at 39 degrees. so we're talking temperatures that are later today going to pick up in some spots to the low 50s instead of capping in the 30s like we saw yesterday. here the current wind speeds. that had been a factor because it might have felt a little cooler this morning in some spots, but mostly it's lighter we're dealing with. wilmington, allentown, only 3 miles per hour lighter. making you feel just slightly cooler than it truly

. >>> sunday night on q & a -- >> in all these years, i have never seen a case where the snowden case where so uncritically journalists have accepted information from a single source, edward snowden, who is in moscow under the control of the russian government. >> investigative journalist edward j. epstein on his book, "how america lost its secrets, edward snowden, the man and the theft." >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say that he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it is. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >>> officials from the justice department and the office of special counsel a

. >>> also new today, nbc news ruia future of edward snowden. russian officials are discussing fugitive over the u.s. he was granted refuge. cynthia mcfad den has more. >> reporter: as a gift to president trump this according to senior official who was analyzed series of reports. a second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence and notes it has been received since the inauguration. the sources say russian have been curry favor with the trump campaign. he made it clear what he wanted to see what happens. >> i think he total trader. >> reporter: he has been charged under espionage act and faces 30 years. as they did during the election. >> one of the things that putin or the russian may see is that they can appear to be offering a gift, at the end of day it creates complications for the new administration. >> reporter: complication that may arise during the trial. good for the russians. last year mike pompeo, now cia director says prison was not enough for snowden. >> the proper outcome would be he would be given the death s

also says snowden deserves the death penalty.s comes after an nbc report which seems to take things a step further than our reporting citing two government officials. nbc reports that russia's considering handing over showedden to the u.s. as a, in an attempt to curry favor with the president. now, yesterday snowden tweeted that he believes these reports prove he obviously is not a russian spy, because a country would never give up a spy that could then harm them. and today he tweeted more suggesting the russian government is actually out to get him, tweeting, quote: days ago i criticized the russian government's oppressive new big brother law, now threatening rumors, but i won't stop. i don't know if the rumors are true, but i can tell you this, i am not afraid. there are things that must be said no matter the consequence. don't be afraid, be ready. there are more of us than them. russia has granted snowden asylum until 2020, fueling accusations he has given russia u.s. secrets in return for safe refuge. and a department of just

going over decision to send the leaker edward snowden home.what a new report claims russia may be looking to gain in return. netanyahu makes a trip to the white house next week. to meet with president trump. the ambassador joins master joins us to talk about that visit and what the israeli leader is looking to accomplish next. (man vo) it was may, when dad forgot how to brush his teeth. (woman vo) in march, my husband didn't recognize our grandson. (woman 2 vo) that's when moderate alzheimer's made me a caregiver. (avo) if their alzheimer's is getting worse, ask about once-a-day namzaric. namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimer's disease in patients who are taking donepezil. it may improve cognition and overall function, and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. namzaric does not change the underlying disease progression. don't take if allergic to memantine, donepezil, piperidine, or any of the ingredients in namzaric. tell the doctor about any conditions; including heart, lung, bladder, kidney or liver problems, seizur

i just wanted to ask you about snowden but you already answered that so i appreciate your answer. i wanted to congratulate the host. he is very nice and i like cam. -- i like him. thank you for taking my call. thank you, and thank you liz. what -- guest: what a great call to end on. host: oren cass will talk about the trump administration's stance and views on climate change. ♪ >> which presidents for america's greatest leaders? c-span recently asked 91 presidential historians to rate our 43 presidents and 10 areas of leadership. top billing this year went to the president who preserved the union, abraham lincoln. he has held the top spot for all three c-span historian surveys. three other top of gators continue to hold their positions. george hold their positions -- george washington, franklin roosevelt, and theater roosevelt. dwight eisenhower, who served to 1961, makes his first appearance in the c-span top five this year. top 10 -- harry truman, thomas jefferson, john f. kennedy, and ronald reagan. spotn johnson jumps up one this year to return to the top 10. dead buchanan is

if returned to the u.s., snowden faces charges of espionage. late this afternoon, he responded, irrefutable evidence that i never koomtd with russian intel. no country trades away spies, as the rest would fear they're next. >>> protesters outside a washington, d.c. middle school blocked the new secretary of education from using the front entrance today. betsy devos had to use a side door to try to mend fences. teachers are critical of her ties to the charter school movement. >> it was really wonderful to visit the school. i look forward to the many visits of many public schools. in d.c. and across the country. >> inside the school teachers wore black to protest her visit. >> there are sanctuary cities and counties. and now bay area is on the verge of having the first ever transit system. since b.a.r.t. links several sanctuary cities, the board is considering adopting its own sanctuary status. one referred to the half million bay area residents stating they should feel safe riding b.a.r.t. and not fear that they'll be turned over to federal immi

snowden went first to china, moscow. of years ago said that snowden should be executed for treason. and the cia guy also pompeo, the new cia director also said that and at the very least decades in jail. i have no sympathy for him. i know some progressives feel he was a whistle-blower. i don't see it that way. if he were doing something something for the country, he would have turned the secrets over to some congressionallal executive body. >> you actually suggested that this might be a possibility and then president trump came on last night and said brand-new immigration order could come as soon as monday. you had suggested we could see a completely new executive order. >> you know, sandra, the reason i was so confident on outnumbered a couple of days ago is that this is such a poorly drafted executive order. it didn't say whether or not people with green cards, for example, permanent legal residents were grabbed or prevented from coming into the country. people with visas, young children, people with medical emergencie

the implication is the russians would give up snowden to the u.s.n return for something, what we don't know. could be anything. we do know the obama administration, present donald trump's explored -- call them the terrible traitor and someone who deserves to be executed. the cia director mike pompeo says snowdon deserves the death penalty for this information to "fox news" comes after an nbc report which seems to take a step further when it comes to this report citing to government officials are nbc reports russia's considering handing over snowden to the u.s. as that quote get to president trump in an attempt to curry favor with the president. this changes the meaning of the intent of giving up snowden as the former deputy national security under president george w. bush tweeted the u.s. should be quote wary of the gift from putin. he could very well be an attempt to try to stir controversy in the united states. this is somebody who some people think is a hero and some people think he's a traitor. julie: what is edward snowden thing about this repo

>> snowden somehow learned that another contractor booz allen hamilton had a contract to work on level where the sources and methods are taken away. he purposefully switched jobs, he said that. he changed jobs to get at the lists of computers that were being penetrated by the nsa. it wasn't -- they didn't accidentally come before him he targeted and went after the sources and methods, which are the crown jewels of any intelligence service and incredibly important to communications intelligence bread >> tucker: more even then we understand. things were coming on tonight, i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, tucker. >> tucker: will talk to charles krauthammer out of today's ruling out of the ninth circuit court at what it means for the trump presidency and you, will be right back..... managing my diabetes has been a struggle. i considered all my options with my doctor, who recommended once-daily toujeo®. now i'm on the path to better blood sugar control. toujeo® is a long-acting insulin from the makers of lantus®. it releases slowly, providing consistent insulin levels for a full 24

. >>> former nsa contractor edward snowden pushing back against claims that russia may give him up. >> this a story that's developing. we're following. nbc news announced yesterday according to a senior official, russian government is offering snowden up as a gift to president trump. on twitter snowden responded saying that this is irrefutable evidence that he never cooperated with russian intelligence. he went on to say that no country trades away spies. snowden was granted refuge in russia after exposing secrets about america's sensitive surveillance programs. he is facing federal charges that carry at least 30 years in prison. >>> staying with russia now, that of a growing controversy involving the national security adviser. it all has to do with a conversation that happened before the president took office. congressional democrats are calling for an investigation into whether michael flynn talked about u.s. sanctions during phone calls with russia's ambassador. if so, those conversations could have broken the law. trump administration officials says flynn has no recollection and,

snowden faces charges that could put him to prison for decades. snowden retweeted last night and said, finally, evidence i never cooperated with russian intel. no country trades away spies as the rest would fear they're next. >>> in other news this morning, the white house says president donald trump has full confidence in his national security adviser, mike flynn. nbc news confirms reports that flynn spoke to the russian ambassador about sanctions from the obama administration before president trump took office. flynn, vice president mike pence and other top officials had denied that, but yesterday flynn said that he wasn't sure if he talked to the ambassador about those sanctions. >> that he would mislead the american people about what he discussed with a russian ambassador, that makes him, i think, if true, patently unfit for office. >> some lawmakers are looking at the timing of flynn's communication with the russian ambassador. it happened just as the white house during the obama administration was expelling russian diplomats for election yea

>> snowden somehow learned that another contractor booz allen hamilton had a contract to work on levelhere the sources and methods are taken away. he purposefully switched jobs, he said that. he changed jobs to get at the lists of computers that were being penetrated by the nsa. it wasn't -- they didn't accidentally come before him he targeted and went after the sources and methods, which are the crown jewels of any intelligence service and incredibly important to communications intelligence. >> tucker: more even then we understand. things for coming on tonight, i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, tucker. >> tucker: we'll talk to charlesco krauthammer out of today's ruling out of the ninth circuit court at what it means for the trump presidency and you, will be right back. >> tucker: fox news alert, a my sweethearts gone sayonara. this scarf all thats left to remem... what! she washed this like a month ago the long lasting scent of gain flings >> tucker: fox news alert, a federal appeals court has upheld the block on president trump's travel ban from several muslim majority countr

edward snowden, learned that russia is considering turning over nsa leaker snowden as a gift to president trump. figured out allies in series of russian conversations, materials reportedly talked about handing over snowden to quote, curry favor with the current president. fugitive in russia and if returned to u.s., face espionage charges. tweeted irrefutable evidence i never cooperated with russian intel. no country trades away spies as rest would fear they're next. >>> thousands of drivers fined, even though the police officer could have helped them avoid a ticket using an app. tonight we'll tell you all about a law some police officers are keeping to themselves, could save you from fine as high as $1200. >>> very scary. >> girl scout and her mother robbed at gunpoint, share us with the encounter outside of bay area safeway. >>> increased sunshine this weekend might make it perfect to head to the san francisco giants fan fest. temps in the 50s, not done with the rain yet. coming up in less than ten minutes. police say this guy ...tonighttf e >>> who would steal from a girl scout? police

snowden, the man and the." >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know it his supporters say he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. and maybe he did some good. and he opened up a subject of interest. trump isink where certainly right, is where this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice. at 8:00 eastern on "q&a."s >> on tuesday, vice president mike pence officiated at the swearing-in ceremony for education secretary betsy devos. the vice president cast the tie-breaking vote on her confirmation. a final vote was 51/50 with two republican senators, lisa murkowski of alaska and susan collins from maine, voting no on her nomination. >> ladies and gentlemen, the vice president of the united states. >> at evening, everyone. i bring greetings from the president of the united states on behalf of president donald trumptrump, it will be my great privilege to administer the oath of office for the next secretary of education for the united states of america, betsy devos. betsy,

snowden is a former u.s. n ational security contractor who stole top secret documents in 201337 shared them with j ournalists. russia has been sheltering snowden for five years. >>> the trump's are hosting japan's prime minister and his wife at the president's estate in florida for the weekend. president trump welcomed the prime minister to the white house yesterday where they t alked security, trade and c hina. >>> the white house and ice officials are getting criticism for that huge immigration sweep across los angeles. recent federal raids netted 160 arrests. 's says many arrested were warranted for violent crimes. immigrant rights advocates are upset. >> this new administration has evoked a tremendous amount of fear and anxiety. >> in similar sweeps roughly 200 arrests were made in georgia, north carolina and santa clara county by -- south carolina by ice. >>> the city's department will not participate in ice enforcement and said the administration should arrest and deport violent and predatory felons not

>> snowden somehow learned that another contractor booz allen hamilton had a contract to work on level where the sources and methods are taken away. he purposefully switched jobs, he said that. he changed jobs to get at the lists of computers that were being penetrated by the nsa. it wasn't -- they didn't accidentally come before him he targeted and went after the sources and methods, which are the crown jewels of any intelligence service and incredibly important to communications intelligence bread >> tucker: more even then we understand. things were coming on tonight, i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, tucker. >> tucker: will talk to charles krauthammer out of today's ruling out of the ninth circuit court at what it means for the trump presidency and you, will be right back. to anticipate is lexus. experience the lexus rx with advanced safety standard. experience amazing. don't let the food you eat during the day haunt you at night. nexium 24hr... shuts down your stomach's active acid pumps... to stop the burn of frequent heartburn... all day and night. have we seen them before

right now and if we put aside for a minute the massive dumps of information, the pentagon papers, snowden, chelsea manning, i'm wondering, bob and david, if you have ever seen this volume of leaks coming out in the administration? is it unprecedented or not, bob? >> i wouldn't use the word leaks. i think it's aggressive reporting and it's the transfer of administrations that has created the environment and a good deal coming from former people, but i agree with ellsburg, more leaks. and i think david would agree on this, there's this sense that reporters just sit around waiting for somebody to bring in a grocery cart of documents like ellsburg did or to call and i think the best sources are not volunteers. somebody who comes to us, but people we recruit and go to and say, we want to understand what's going on. >> sounds like spycraft. >> no, it's reporting. and it's quite basic. so i also, i mean, there was a lot that seems to be coming out, as is always the case, so much more that we don't know about the whole general flynn issue where he came and now is departed. i think you could proba

there are people like snowden who dump a lot of source material. we want to at least think about what repercussions might look like. it's important to sort of put them in the context of understanding where on the spectrum, and also one of the most recent prosecutions related to leaks is actually general cartwright. who had -- pled guilty and has since been pardoned by president obama for confirming a piece of information. that actually was a sort of quasi-authorized thing, he was authorized to have the conversation with the journalist, maybe said something he shouldn't have or didn't intend to. then ultimately was prosecuted or pled guilty to a charge on lying to federal agents. and so this is, i think that's -- it's a pretty good demonstration of the complexity of this space, it's not just somebody, you know, going rogue. it's not necessarily somebody blowing the whistle. some people have con -- contacts because they're tiing to enhance national security. a publication has a story they want to run with it, they might need additional context in ord

edward snowden exposed what eli lake calls. if there has been a deep state war ignited by flynn's resignation and the president want to get back at the intelligence community. he should pardon edward snowden. i heart you and i'm kennedy. is president trump and the intelligence community at war? let's ask jonah goldberg. what is your take on the deep state versus the administration? >> for me it's like the iran-iraq war. i am just sorry on one side can lose. i agree with you that what they did needs a thorough accounting. one way we can figure out what's going on, they should release the tapes that they have of the conversation. kennedy: or a transcript so week all see it and judge for ourselves. >> for the most part they should release the whole thing, especially the parts alluded to in the press. i'm pretty sure they did have a warrant. if they didn't have a warrant someone needs to go to jail really soon. but the warrant -- if they don't have a fisa warrant to do this, that's nuts. i'm not sure i agree with you that flynn did

very well, said snowden didn't have the good stuff. that's true. we worry about wikileaks and some of the stuff that snowden reveal you but the good stuff, the deep secrets, as president obama called them, don't get published normally it is very rare. we're getting into the government's business and an important part of it but there's also the deep secrets part that we don't get into it. is that fair? >> i have seen a number of things published in the newspaper putting aside snowden that have been details of technical operations. i don't think that the papers stick to here is how the government works policy. i have seen -- >> no. say there's a something things that's sensitive there's a small portion that gets published is that correct. >> i have not seen -- >> a compartment is classification in special program or sci program that where they are limited allegedly to people who have a need to know. but i think there's a lot of things we doesn't know about and frankly, from my point of view i would like to know about them. because the go

edward jay epstein, "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and his thefts." edward: maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation. but i think where donald trump is right is this man has not toed justice and he deserves face justice, whatever we decide it is. announcer: sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. our series of interviews on new members of withess, we met congressman thomas suozzi, democrat of new york. >> congressman tom suozzi represents new york democrats in the third district. tell us what you were doing before you ran for the seat. rep. suozzi: i was trained originally as a lawyer and a certified public accountant and i worked for arthur andersen and company and i clerked for the chief judge of the eastern district in the federal courts and i worked for a big law firm -- and thentirling i was the mayor of my hometown for eight years and then i was the county executive of a very large county nassau county on long island one point three million people two point eight billion dollars budget. i did that for eight years. i