to vo is snowden's lawyer and he is one of the people that snowden credits with saving his wife mr joins me tonight from the city of howell facts in nova scotia canada mr tabor welcome to the day i want to ask you a belt something that snowden said earlier today on the u.s. network c.b.s. . he said that the publication of his new book is leading germany and france to ask should we give snowden asylum is this new book is it part of your client's plan to ask for asylum here in germany well just to clarify in in 2013 when mr snowden departed from on call and in transit through moscow he stopped. short he had applied for asylum in about 21 countries around the world if i'm not mistaken general on of them. and france was one of them and also asylum requests were rejected. at this time mr snowden's made one particular person about 2 fronts. and in terms of germany. mr snowden. has made it very clear oh. no i think if he's given the opportunity he would he would like to even germany to live in germany now understanding. mr snowden hostile and on german soil. and how to do. so as it stands then

mr snowden. has made it very clear over the years that you know i think if he's given the opportunity he would he would like to even germany to live in germany now understanding. mr snowden house to land on german soil. and you have to do so directly. so as it stands then tonight mr snowden has asked for asylum in france and there is no asylum request that has gone out to germany as of yet correct as far as i'm aware that's ok. the suggestion that snowden could leave russia and live here in europe i mean it's not new 4 years ago i asked snowden about reports that germany could suffer geo politically if it crossed the u.s. by granting him asylum here is what he told me that. germany is for all intents and purposes the leader of the year. democracy they're strong they're strong economy did they have a point well established tradition of defending individual rights but do you not think it were that they would be germany the leaders of germany do you not think that they fear that there would be real

snowden regards germany as among those countries.he german foreign minister stands firm on his commitment to legal procedurure. >> i consisider it to be fundamentally wrong for ministers to comment on how they think asylum procedures should turn out. these are processed according to the law. reporterer: snowden denies anany cocollaboratioion wi the rusussn government. his russian residence permit runs out next year. he is living at an undisclosed address in moscow. brent: i'm joined now by martin canova, a reporter with the german -- a german newsmagazine. he interviewed edward snowden. good to have you on this show. did edward snowden tell you why he ireleasinthis boo now? martin: he did, and he told us it is important to him and for the people who know him, to know how the procedure was going o o, that he came to the point where he wanted to be a whistleblower. and that he wanted to discover the most secrets -- the biggest secrets of the intelligence agency in the u.s. and i think everybody, every journalist was asking about his li

been expressed ousts and snowden's lawyer that if he does what. he has to have. the ganges that he would not be arrested and would not face extradition proceedings the united states asked recession. and that he be able to remain in germany as president. so there are ways. to come to germany. and simply quote. on this merkel that our stage doesn't. own a will to do that. let's get your miner of our top stories this hour voting is underway in israel 2nd general election this year prime minister benjamin netanyahu faces a strong challenge from the former army chief any gods who's running as a centrist. well straight ahead we have our documentary that's taking up the question today our farming policies. and they'll forget you can always get the latest news our website e.w. dot com i'm brian thomas for all of us here thanks for being with us. for 1st coming much of. the doors grand moment arrives. joining me ring a chain on her journey back to freedom. in our interactive documentary durham.

mr snowden. has made it very clear over the years that no i think if he's given the opportunity he would he would like to even germany to live in germany now understanding of. mr snowden hostile and home on german soil. and how to do so asta. so that's what he said series asking for asylum in france but not in germany his attorney also told me that going back to the united states remains out of reach right now for snowden but that's not exactly what snowden told you is that you know he really has some hope that he will you know will be able to go back in some years so i know what he means and 10 or 20 years or whatever because he was saying that people look differently on him and i don't believe that at least until we have that administration what we have at the moment so i don't see any any way and i think they the lawyers tried to make a deal and it didn't hurt so why should it work now it's a very good point we've got about 30 seconds i want to ask you it's not been told you that he never told

justice department suing edward snowden and one of the even remotely hope to get from the lawsuit. it's kind of comical on some levels if it wasn't so bizarre but essentially what they've done is they filed a lawsuit to say that they know they can't stop the publication of the book because the 1st amendment was in the constitution so instead what they're done is they've gone to a judge and said he should not be allowed to profit off of this book so they're asking the court who essentially allow the government to seize all the money that is made from the book itself and for the government to be able to keep that money and not only that but to go a step further and to also file on for the court to essentially put out an injunction that will say that snowden can give no speeches in any locations around the world about the book or the contents of the book so that's what they're asking the court to do while. it's not of like freedom and its interest i'm just going to add in this really quick what's really interesting about this is the other major whistleblower chelsea manning she is now

now they've been called snowden's guardian angels and with good reason. because family that's the 2 people to my right immediate right over here they are among those who hid a fugitive whistleblower edward snowden in their home in hong kong as he was on the run from u.s. authorities that was back in 2013 since then edward snowden has been granted asylum in russia and today has released his autobiography permanent record it details the crisis of conscience that led the former n.s.a. contractor to leak classified documents revealing the extent of u.s. and u.k. government surveillance but that's material for suporn and medica both refugees from. their families asylum applications in hong kong have been rejected they are now faced with deportation and an uncertain future. it's just a game for 3 year old enough but for his family hiding has become a way of life one that desperate to leave behind a 7 year old said to me he was just a baby. and tina was not even born when their parents asylum seekers from sri lanka found themselves sheltering us intelligence con

in 2013 snowden was working as a contractor for the national security agency or n.s.a. in interviews he'd said he'd become disillusioned and had ethical concerns about the massive government surveillance programs that were part of his assignment later that year snowden was accused of leaking classified information to the media the documents revealed the way governments were using online data from the devices of ordinary citizens to monitor their lives snowden also sees more immediate dangers on our virtual doorstep an internet giant you can look around the world today and go governments are not threat they're increasing more through with each passing year and you can say the same of these internet john edwards they have made an enemy of public privacy they make their money by selling our lives as a product snowden's adverse or is say he's sharing of classified files that disclosed military secrets to america's enemies and in danger to u.s. agents was a reckless act snowden has been living in exile in russia ever since the u.s. wants him extradited on espionage charges h

intelligence operative edward snowden his new book goes on sale today snowden shocked the world 6 years ago of course when he leaked details of a massive american internet surveillance program spanning the globe he's living in exile now in russia and faces espionage charges and the likelihood of life in prison back home. some see him as a hero others condemn him as america's most wanted traitor as with snowden his written permanent record to set the record straight himself told german television that he's concerned about the fates of feature whistleblowers and i think that's one of the saddest lessons from this story what does it say to the next whistleblower and what does a suitable world what does it say about ourselves when the only place that american this again can be heard is from places that we wouldn't expect. in 2013 snowden was working as a contractor for the national security agency or n.s.a. in interviews he'd said he'd become disillusioned and had ethical concerns about the massive government surveillance programs that were part of his assignment later that year snowden was

edward snowden is out with a memoir. it is called "permanent record." we speak to him from his home in moscow, where he has lived ever since the u.s. revoked his passport in 2013. >> the lesson of 2013, unfortunately, i think still has not been learned today, which is these revelations were never about surveillance. surveillance was the mechanism. it was thehe grounds for discussion. but the actual topic that was coming in conflict was democracy. amy: nsa whistleblower edward snowden for the hour. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. house democrats moved rapidly forward with the impeachment inquiry into president trump after the white house released a wednesday rough transcript of a phone call showing the u.s. president repeatedly preressured ukraine's leader to launch a corruption probe into trump campmpaign rival joe biden. in the five-page transcript, dated july 25, president trump alludes to $400 million in military aid to ukraine that he had ordered cut off just days

amy: your thoughts, edwaward snowden, president trump?> i've said before, donald trump strikes me something not so much as a man who has never known a love that he hasn't had to pay for. i think that forms all of his decision-making. i think that explains all of the things that we seeee. thisis is someone who sees the world through a prism of a very, which is that what he is, who he is, does not today and never has anand never will havave any value. the only thing that matters is what he has, what he can trade. and i think that really explains all of the transactional corruption that we have seen throughout this administration is simply someone who thinks that is what life is. amy: and your thoughts on president obama? because e your trials and tribulations -- maybe not trial yet -- actually occurred through the obama years? a - -- it is tremendouslyly unpopular i thin, even tododay, for anybody to saa bad word about obama. because on balancnce when y youk at a l lot of the things that ce out of the obama white house, this is a man i thic

critics have -- have not backed it up, history will judge snowden.y in many ways, because he was right about the way that big tech and big government have gotten together to surveil our lives and try to take power away us from as individuals and give that power to big corporations and big government had. he is not in prison, but he is paying a price, living in exile, away from family, friends, from the life he knew, this not nothing, he chose that and knew. and so, you know, if it is not quite honorable this is a thing to respect a little bit. kennedy: yes, and you know, he saw he knew what government was doing, incriible too me is that nsa with these tools did not realize one of their contractors was taking these documents, seems like pis poor cyber security. >> right. there is a difference between right and wrong, and lawful and unlawful. kennedy: what if he tried legal route. >> it would not have been as effective. >> he would have been shut down. kennedy: you have reported about bill benny, who was a similar whistle-blower who was pull out of sho

whistleblower edward snowden's chances of being granted asylum here in germany with the clock ticking on his exotic in russia. and ready thanks for joining us votes are being counted off the israel 2nd general election this year with prime minister benjamin netanyahu whose political survival hanging in the balance one rival is already calling for the formation of a cross posse national unity government with exit polls pointing to another deadlock between the country's main political blocs we'll have analysis here in the studio in just a. moment but 1st this look at the state of the race. israel's election result is neck and neck exit polls are suggesting the race between benyamin netanyahu head of the right wing likud party and the incumbent prime minister and his rival benny gantz leader of the centrist blue and white party is too close to call. 6 months ago netanyahu failed to form a coalition government faced with losing power he called fresh elections against predictions of voter fatigue voter turnout has been the highest in decades. palestinians who are not in the gaza strip are

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more of my exclusive conversation with edward snowden in just a moment.his next part is the portion everyone needs to see and hear. it's about your phone and what it knows about you and what snowden does to his phones when he buys a new one. >>> next time you're sitting at a traffic light in your city or town, just take a look at the people you can see. many aren't looking forward as they walk, they're looking down, just like they're looking down while on planes, at the wheel, at ball games, at home. our phones have taken over a portion of our lives we didn't know we had to give away. now, please listen to edward snowden from our conversation earlier today when he talks about how vulnerable we are, what our phones give off, what they give away, and what they can tell someone about us. >> hacking has increasingly become what governments consider a legitimate investigative tool. they use the same methods and techniques as criminal hackers. and what this means is they will try to remotely take over your device. once they do this, by detecting a vulnerability

please welcome edward snowden. ( cheers and applause ) edward snowden, welcome to the show. >> good toback because i don't know how long you have in that secret hideout where you're doing this interview from. >> it's just my apartment in moscow. ( laughter ) >> trevor: okay, okay. don't tell us where it is. don't pull a trump here, dude. come on. some people call you a patriot, others believe that you're a traitor. do you think this book will change people's perceptions and what do you see yourself as? >> well, when i set out to write this book, i wasn't trying to change opinions, i was just trying to tell the story of what has happened. i'm just an ordinary person. i'm like you. whistleblowers aren't like -- you know, we aren't elected, we're not exceptionally skilled. the thing that puts us in place, the thing that makes the disclosure matter are the facts. it's really about what you see rather than what you are. >> trevor: right. >> so we're kind of elected by circumstance. the government just sued me on the day this book hit the shelves. >> trevor: right. >> you can say it was born

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whistleblower edward snowden his autobiography permanent record arrives in bookstores today it's been 6 years since he shocked the world with revelations about the u.s. government's mass surveillance back then he found shelter in an unlikely place with a group of refugees are now the people who helped him are stuck in limbo themselves facing deportation from hong kong they hope canada will offer them protection. it's just a game for 3 year old enough but for his family hiding has become a way of life one that desperate to leave behind a 7 year old said someday was just a baby. and enough was not even born when their parents asylum seekers from sri lanka found themselves sheltering us intelligence contracted turned whistleblower edward snowden since their role in his story came to light they haven't felt safe father suppose and received threatening phone calls some course. in reality or to study for their trade rescaling so we saw that whore and we hear it from my home people importers was leaving this hotel one re that hotel one we really have to be always. real to be always with safe

earlier this year that country accepted one of the other families who helped edward snowden and hong kong filipino vanessa and her daughter kiana her father is supposed to both families are close and the separation has taken its toll. one of my kids know they have. a free life and independent they've always had a lot to watch the family always stick together when they leave their tiny apartment in downtown hong kong the parents face deportation back to sri lanka where they fled persecution and abuse canada is still processing their asylum claims they wait and they hope to be together and to be safe from. the border. that. freedom is that way but with no news from canada on their cases freedom feels a long way off. football now the usa for champions league is back with the 1st group games kicking off today to drill the team's real action as are the lives that travel to lisbon while in the days top notch dortmund host barcelona boss is that starstruck a little messy says he's excited to play his 1st match at dormans iconic stadium. the iconic yellow wall at dortmund's acknowledged in a

book, but instead, looks to recover any proceeds earned snowden has lived in russia for the last six joining me here on the set is msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos danny, good to have you. what do you make of this recent legal proceeding, if you will, against edward snowden they've been unsuccessful in bringing him back to the united states through legal means but what's the significance of this one other legal proceeding given the fact that he's facing much more serious consequences for the violation? >> members of the community and other agencies almost uniformly signed an agreement to not only disclose information but to submit any book that they might write or any kind of speaking engagement to the agency for what's called prepublication review and the supreme court has said that despite the first amendment and the strong presumption against the government's prior restraint of speech, this kind of prepublication review is constitutional so, they're alleging that snowden breached this obligation he had signed written nondisclosure agreements and they're not seeking to stop the

and he changed the world by revealing mass surveillance by governments and corporations now edward snowden has laid out the details in a new book. by bryan thomas thanks so much for joining us polls have opened in israel's 2nd general election this year is expected to be a very tight race prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his wife voting earlier today is hope today's election what end the political crisis in the country that began with netanyahu was on able to form a government after the last election i was 5 months ago in april the former army chief benny gantz. yahoo's main challenger he's running as a centrist and there's a possibility he could win. for more let's get the latest now with did have used time kramer joining us from jerusalem good morning to you how's the voter turnout been so far where you are. well meaning people here are coming since the early morning to the polling stations they opened at 7 am people have a day off to go and vote. and there's a lot of expectation here because it's going to be a long day exit polls are not expected before $20.00 to $100.00 tonight he

government was conducting mass surveillance and lying about it now edward snowden has written a book about the new dangers to our privacy. i'm sorry kelli walk into the program voting is underway in israel in its 2nd general aleck. in this year it's expected to be a tight race the prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his wife voted early it is hoped that today's election will end the political crisis that began when netanyahu was unable to form a government after the last election back in april former army chief benny gantz is netanyahu is main challenger. and for more on this i am joined now by correspondent marion dougherty who is live in jerusalem so how has the voter turnout been so far mariam. hi sara so the voter turnout this morning has actually been higher than in the previous elections which was a little bit unexpected i mean we have to see how it pans out during the day but people were actually expecting kind of voter apathy in the 2nd round in such a short time and but of course this is an unprecedented thing to have 2 elections within such a short time period so we don't

edward snowden's autobiography permanent record hit the shelves today which details the former n.s.a. contractor what he calls the crisis of conscious that led to him to leak classified documents revealing the extent of u.s. government surveillance now it's 6 years since snowden share that information from hong kong this is the place that he chose to unmask himself as soon as he did he found himself under threat and he found an unlikely hiding place which was with a group of asylum seekers they sheltered him in their homes for a couple of weeks before he fled to moscow where he's now living in exile. but most of these people they are still stuck in hong kong authorities there have rejected their asylum applications and they now face deportation to sri lanka their country that they fled their only hope is to have their asylum applications accepted in canada where 2 of the refugees were offered protection earlier this year we met with one of the families in hong kong. it's just a game for 3 year old enough but for his family hiding has become a way of life one that desperate to leave be

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the justice department is trying to recover all proceeds from snowden's new memoir. snowden accused of violating nondisclosure agreements that he ubling the gt e nsa and the ci rtunity to review it first. six years ago snowden leaked intelligence about secret programs and is living in russia to avoid arrest. >>> and pittsburgh pirate pitcher felipe vasquez is in custody on multiple felony charges including sexually assaulting a child. the pirates star closer was arrested yesterday in pittsburgh for allegedly soliciting an arges including statutory sexual assault and corruption of minors. the charges follow an investigation in florida involving the 28-year-old pitcher, allegedly have a sexual relationship with a girl starting when she was 13 years old. he was placed on administrative leave by major league baseball. >>> coming up on the morning news, a possible stand-your-ground case in georgia where a homeowner is accused of killing three teenagers. >>> and health alert. michigan sees its worst outbreak of a mosquito-borne disease in more than a decade. >>> this is th

snowden.s you pointed out, growing up in the intelligence community and your parents were in government, it wasn't easy for you to become personal here. i am curious, since you grew up in a community, where almost everyone was in somehow connected to government service, many of them the fbi, how d you -- did you approach your family at all about this? how did they react to it when you went through this process? and how do they feel about it now? >> this was one of the hardest parts of coming forward was that i couldn't talk to anybody about it. this is the bizarre circumstance of the way our laws are currently structured. in 2013, i was a contractor working for the nsa through a private company. i worked in an nsa facility. i had an nsa boss. i was working at nsa systems and doing nsa tasks. formally, just on paper, i worked for a private company. these contractors weren't protected by whistleblower protection laws. if i had tried to talk to a priest, a judge, a congressman, it would have been

this new suit is separate from the larger criminal case against snowden.cted during the obama administration and remains in compi exile in russia. tonight brian williams joins us with extra special insight williams went to moscow for snow den's first television interview. he interviewed him for the 11th hour let's look at both these interviews. >> i'm not supported by the russian government, i'm not taking money from the russian government i'm not a spy. it was never my intention to end up in russia if the united states government is so concerned about russia, shouldn't they be happy for me to leave >> do you see yourself as a patriot? >> i do. when my government wants me to help, i will be there. i'm a human being. i can make mistakes, i can make the wrong call but the reality is the situation determined that this needed to be told to the public. things have changed and i would do it again. when people say why don't you go home and face the music, i say you have to understand that the music is not an open court and a fair trial >> do you predict you will

in permanent record former national security agency contractor edward snowden reflects on his life andis decision to expose the united states massive surveillance program. wrapping up our look at some of the best-selling nonfiction e-books according to amazon is "exonerated" former secret service agent dan mangino's argument that the mueller investigation was a failed attempt to end the trump presidency. most of these authors have appeared on book tv and you can watch them online at booktv.org.

. >> it's remarkable this is happening, essentially since edward snowden has a back out this week. we have one here, and it's not working. it's not set up in such a way. most of these things are not set up to say, what if the president does it? this is probably the problem that joseph maguire has right now. they go and look at the rule book and they say, is this an intelligence activity or not? is this person in my command or

host: your thoughts on edward snowden? guest: edward snowden is an interesting case because he studied the laws in this area. he was a federal contractor, work for the nsa -- worked for the nsa. he determined the best way to get the information out that he wanted to disclose was not to go through this process, but to go to the media, and we all know his story about fleeing to hong kong and eventually to russia. that this is ais difficult question for it is notwers and something that i would advise anyone to do, because it is breaking the law and there are stiff penalties. there have been a number of prosecutions of people under the espionage act and other laws relating to classified information. there were a string of espionage act prosecutions, one of the most recent the reality winner case where she pled guilty to leaking one document to the intercept. she has a five year prison sentence that she is serving. the case that those who have done that have made is that the system doesn't work, the system doesn't allow people

i actually think, as we describe in our book, that the snowden disclosures in 2013 were one of the great inflection points for technology of the past decade and it did awaken us all to things we did not know. it led us, as a company, to file not one, but four lawsuits against the obama administration. we went to the united states supreme court, we took steps that led to greater legal protections and that's the other side of the coin. if we protect our rights and democracies and protect ourselves from authoritarian cyber attacks, that's not going to solve the problems of the world, but it's fundamental to the progress we need to make. i am really sensing your passion for this, but i'm also wondering whether you are not being deeply naive and perhaps some people watching this will say a bit misleading. because we've established that state actors across the world, frankly, on their record, can't be trusted to follow your principles, but also on the private sector has repeatedly failed to follow your principles. we only have to think about facebook and the data released at cambridge analytic

white house under the obama administration because you discovered, thanks to the leaks of edward snowden, that the us state, the government of america, your government, its national security agency were illicitly tapping into electronic communications for their own national security purposes, unknown to the millions of people whose data was accessed. why should we trust america? when did any government in the west? one should have some facing democracy and be to protect it. i actually think, as we described in our book, that the snowden disclosures in 2013 were one of the great inflection points for technology of the past decade and it did awaken us all to things we did not know. it led us, as a company, to file not one, but four lawsuits against the obama administration. we went to the united states supreme court, we took steps that led to greater legal protections and that's the other side of the point. —— coin. if we protect our rights and democracies and protect ourselves from authoritarian cyber attacks, that's not going to solve the problems of the world, but it's fundamental to th