remember the events surrounding the revelations made by whistleblower, edward snowden, snowden, a former employee of the cia and later a contractor for an essay released hundreds of thousands of pages of information to weekly leaks that proved the american government was spying on its own citizens in violation of the law, among other things, snowden, at the time of his revelations, was living in hawaii. he made his way to hong kong and then to moscow on his way to ecuador. but while he was in moscow, then u. s. secretary of state, john kerry revoked his us passport and stranded him. there snowden has since become a russian citizen. the story that is not often told, though, is where snowden hid and with whom while he was in heim, the entire world was looking for him, including several of the world's foremost intelligence services. why couldn't they find him? how did he remain free and who helped him get onto a plane to moscow? we'll talk about that and more with our next guest. robert tivo is a canadian, national, and an attorney focusing on constitutional and criminal law and human right

in 2013, he helped ed snowden and he began representing the refugees who took snowden into their home in hong kong. they're now known as the t beau refugees, and robert t bo remains an important player in the snowden story. robert, welcome to the show. we're happy to have you. thank you very much. john's, my pleasure to if you're all today unusual. thank you. let's, let's begin at the beginning, this seems like one of those situations where you and the tb refugees had just happened to be in the right place. at the right time, when ed snowden made his revelations and then went on the run. what happened? how did this all begin? well, keeping it the narrative, as simple as i can. add snowden had arrived in hong kong in about mid may, 2013. and towards the end of that much. and in early june, the guardian had started publishing stories by based on information from a former cia agents. and this caught the attention of authorities and on public these stories galvanized, you know, public interest in particular because glen greenwald, who has had written stories, talked about the present prog

some of the biggest and most polarizing include those done by chelsea manning in 2010, edward snowdenity winner in 2017. former air force linguist and nsa contractor was sentenced to five years in federal prison in 2018 for linking classified documents of alleged russian interference of the 2016 presidential election. she defended her actions on 60 minutes. >> i'm not a traitor. i am not a spy. i am somebody who only acted out of love for what this country stands for. >> byron: edward snowden working for the nsa lead to thousands of documents about u.s. intelligence agencies surveillance on american citizens. >> snowden is a traitor. >> byron: in an interview, snowden defended his actions. >> we should always make a distinction that right and wrong is a very different standard than legal and illegal. >> byron: after a are looking to the press, snowden sought asylum and russia. if he were to return to the u.s., he faces up to 35 years in federal person. >> so many people call you a traitor. many call you a hero. who is chelsea manning? >> i'm just me. >> byron: jesse madden is the form

in 2013, he helped ed snowden and he began representing the refugees who took snowden into their home in hong kong. they're now known as the tivo refugees, and robert t bo remains an important player in the snowden story.

the united states is looking for snowden on charges of espionage. in september last year. he received russian citizenship. the author of another leak, daniel hale, was an employee of the national security agency in 2013. he served at the us military base in bagram and helped identify targets for airstrikes in afghanistan in february 2014 hill handed over 17 secret documents with evidence of us war crimes to journalists, he said he felt guilty for the involvement of civilians, the court sentenced the ex- special service officer to 45 months in prison. hill is still behind bars. russian electronic warfare units are working with the help of special equipment to intercept enemy communications. alexey will tell you how it helps to calculate the coordinates of the enemy baranov, a few kilometers to the line of contact, electronic warfare vehicles drive up to the point to complete the combat mission in less than 5 minutes. without this drone , the work cannot be done. this is how the final assembly of the device is performed. the drone was assembled the last movement of one of th

glen greenwald to helped edward snowden with his leaks. he condemned to the new york times for actually a leading f b i to this leakers door. it i'll use, i mean, s, as in washington. thank you so much for that. let's take a look now at some of the other stories making headlines around the world today. germany has given the green line for poland to send 5 soviet era fighter jets to ukraine, or san needed berlin's permission to send the planes on to a 3rd country because the aircraft came from the former east german air force. the germany is not planning to send any of his own fighter jets to ukraine. hundreds of thousands of people across france join protests against changes to the pension system. demonstrators occupying the headquarters of a luxury good firm in paris and protesters gathered outside france is constitutional court, which will decide on friday whether to allow or block government plans to raise the retirement age. from $62.00 to $64.00, he was president joe biden as hailed america's close ties with ireland and, and addressed

edward snowden, in excess of 10 years ago, released a highly classified information.was a network administrator. in edward snowden's case, he had been fired from or moved on from different jobs for underperformance. you had behavioral issues. more than 10 years ago, how is it possible more was not done to plug a leak we had already catastrophically witnessed? >> in your opinion, how damaging is this leak? >> it is hard to say because first of all it appears the documents -- i caution people to not assume what they are seeing online is accurate. i also caution people that i spent a decade-plus around intelligence. just because the cia or pentagon assesses something does not mean it is true. they will make assessments with lower levels. i am particularly animated at this issue because the potential damage -- much of this material appears to pertain to the fight happening right now when ukraine were showing unbelievable courage and fortitude, ukrainians are fighting off the russians. if this results in russians getting wind and how intelligence is gathered this could mea

a lot of times whistleblowers like edward snowden are protected by the media because they're trying to expose the wrong doings of the state. that's not the case here. and the media actually played a different role here with the new york times heading to his home and knocking on the door just hours before the f b. i showed up and arrested him soon. glenn greenwald to help edward snowden with his leaks, he condemned to the new york times for actually a leading f b i to this leakers door w. i mean s, as in washington. thank you so much for that. moving on germany has approved a polish request to deliver old make fighter jets to ukraine. fallen bought the former east german aircraft in 2002, but needed permission from berlin to send them to a 3rd country or when he is not planning to send any of its own fighter jets to ukraine. and dw political correspondence, i'm young has more on when germany's decision signal it's about sending a clear message of solidarity to key and showing support for their efforts to defend themselves against the russian invasion. this decision by the berlin governm

now you mention, and this is, i think, particularly important the edward snowden leaks a decade ago. and if you compare the fall out, then 10 years ago with a fall out now in particular, the reaction coming from european capitals or other capitals around the world. i would certainly say that the fallout now is less, may remember the outrage that was caused a decade ago after the leaks by edward snowden capitals, including right here in berlin with then chance langler merkel saying that spying among friends is unacceptable. we're not seeing that kind of reaction now, at least not open, at least not openly when it comes to some of the u. s. is closest allies and now they've also been filed in the league indicating that western special forces of them, the members of nato military is operating in ukraine. what's the political implications of that? for obviously some of the details there are still not known because of the highly classified nature of that possible operation of that possible presence. but what we can say for sure is that that may reinforce certain narratives around the war

because we know this was not a traditional leak, this was not the way that edward snowden did things,orm called discord, is the us prepared for what could be a new era of digital leaking that may not involve whistle—blowers, it may not involve spies, even, this could, as we think we know now, just may be a 21—year—old individual who may not have had an agenda and wanted to share some documents online with some buddies? yeah, we will never run out of motives for why an individual will make a bad decision and betray his country, ultimately. the traditional motives have been ideological, they have been money, sex. this time, it is apparently impressing other people, and what is ironic about this is it was the lowest of low—tech leaks. printing things out and then carrying about in your pocket — there is nothing 21st—century high—tech about that. and it reminds us, again, we spend a lot of time and energy defending against very sophisticated cyber attacks and network exploitation by our enemies, but we need to remember and not lose sight of the fact you can stick this stuff in your pocket

that's what snowden was. that's what a couple of the other cases in the last 20 years of reaches have been, and i suspect that that is what is happening now. i have no obviously, 1st hand indications but, but i recognize the information how it's presented, the kinds of documents that we are seeing and how the system functions. and that's where i suspect will have happened, and they are also easier those individuals for foreign intelligence services, specifically the russians to target and manipulate any i see you nodding along the, through the claim was saying, i mean, if it is someone from inside the u. intelligence agencies, or, or a contractor associated with them. why do you think someone in that position would maybe want to leaked documents like this? because they seem damaging to so many different countries, including russia, as well as the us, obviously. and also israel in south korea, in your introduction and various other countries. i think what we need to look at is the geo political tectonic plates

edward snowden was a contractor at the nsa.ou can get. >> neil: but how all these clearances? >> how to have access? this is a serious question for the intelligence agencies in this country. how is it that america continues to prove to be the weak link in the western security chain. that is what america is at the moment. >> neil: this doesn't happen anywhere else. >> doesn't happen. i am from britain originally, i live in america -- if you couldn't have guessed -- when was the last time you saw am i five or mi6 have vast caches of documents released? it doesn't happen? when do the australians or new zealanders or canadians, the other members of the intelligence agencies lose massive amounts of documents and disseminated across the internet, it does not happen. >> neil: why doesn't it happen? a smaller network of people who have this access? >> this is for the agencies to address but that is certainly an element. we have to come to this question, is something really secretive tens of thousands of people have access to it? that i

if it is someone like edward snowden, a systems administrator, responsible for doing the nuts and boltsport work for the information systems through whi such classified material flows, there is no way for that person to do his job without being able to access the material systems. >> i've heard a number of intelligence communities speaking. some say the cia does it better than the military. what provisions of the cia put into place the military need to look at? >> when you come to things like bedding personnel, the cia has traditionally had more stringent ways of doing that, including the administration of a polygraph to everyone who will get a clearance. usually that has not been the case with other government organizati, many other organizations, including the military. it is not a matter of having a clearance or not, there are various levels of compartmented information where traditional betting is done. with an agency like the cia who has lives of human agents at stake, that part has been taken extremely seriously. it should not be surprising there is some discrepancy, but there wil

this is the public interest or inadvertent offence that people such as edward snowden always wanted torelevant from the consideration of are you liable, did you commit the offence? it is a consideration possibly at sentencing in terms of a mitigating factor. unlike, say, an edward snowden this individual does not appear to have intended this to be disseminated outside the discord channel, it doesn't change whether he is criminally liable but it is a consideration that could mitigate a criminal sentence which could be tens upon tens of years depending on the number of documents ultimately he leaked. i want to ask one more question about the motivation here. in the washington post investigation, one of the suspect�*s acquaintances is quoted as saying "i would "definitely not call him a whistleblower, i would not "call 0g a whistleblower in the slightest." to understand this correctly, if he were to say he was a whistleblower this would not change the situation for him? there is no whistleblower defence in this context. to be clear, the whistleblower laws as set up in the united states re

right well, you know, my friend jim clapper is absolutely right with edward snowden. we saw documents go directly from the intelligence, community and intelligence community system, and those documents revealed information about active programs. some programs, which were which involved human intelligence, and those documents were handed over to the members of the press and the in that case, we knew that the documents were legitimate. more important. we didn't know the full scope and scale. in fact, some would argue that we still don't know the full school. open skill of that particular leak and this case, these documents appeared to contain information that's less critical in terms of revealing sources and methods. in some cases, as you indicated they appear to be um, manipulated, but nonetheless, it's still the case that anytime we have a look at classified information when we can validate that some of that information is legitimate. it poses threats to our national security. of course, shawn turner so great to have you this morning. thank you so much for your expert

mike rogers former house intel committee chair during the snowden affair is here. good to have you on to get your insight. you can read this story six different ways. how do you read it right now? >> well, the immediacy of the damage of this leak is what i think has people concerned. the snowden leak, he took literally millions of pages, downloaded them that he clearly hadn't read and ran off to russia. in this particular case these were very immediate about an ongoing issue. that's what has certainly the pentagon folks upset and concerned. i will tell you this is just another example of why you have to get everything else right leading up to all of this, including when the russians down a u.a.v. in international airspace and not deal with it. when this happens it shows the rest of the world i don't think these folks know exactly what the hell they're doing. >> dana: tell me your thoughts on egypt, for example. with friends like these, right? we give them a lot of aid and to find out that they were actually thinking of working with the russians in order to help the

he broke, of course, the most mfamous leaking story in american history, the story of ed snowden. he joins he j us tonight. glenn , thanks so much for coming on , i should say. and be quiet and let you speak, since you know this better than anyone. >> but we leftne out a lot of details that are being reported in "the washington post", the new york times, et cetera. pothe leakabout the leaker and . all came from. because honestly, i don't stly, i believe anything. . and it's very hard to knowed what's true. we're all being spun. we're all being lied to , wid we just didn't want to repeat the lies. so with that, what do yo whau me of this? >> i can't think of an incident, tucker, that reveals more vividly the real function of our nation's larges nation'tj corporations than what just happened here. >> if you're a real journalist,, somebody who's devotedme to transparency, bringing trg light on the most powerful government actors when they lie to the american people and informineg the public, you, would be celebrating thiswo person who stepped forwardis

edward snowden, reality winner and chelsea manning.anning was prosecuted under military court-martial. as in those cases department of defense investigators will continue trying to retrace his steps and determine just how he allegedly printed smuggled off base and posted online dozens of sensitive documents. now, he likely signed a nondisclosure agreement for having that type of -- having that type of top security clearance. bret. that, we know, is standard in the industry. but, what we don't know are there others involved? the source i spoke to said this is likely the tip of the iceberg. they want to find out if more people are involved here. bret? >> bret: david spunt at the justice department. david, thank you. earlier in the day president biden said during his visit in ireland there is nothing of great consequence in the leaked materials. that opinion is not a popular one back here in washington. most experts and senior officials behind the scenes will tell you this was a massive leak with big consequences. white house corresponden

that is why snowden came out and said what he said.t is why other things that were leaked onto dickie webb or the dark web. i think that might be something similar here. one, there is a generational issue, i would suggest, which is perhaps even going back to my generation. growing up in the 1980's and starting to work in the 1990's. the idea you would have a job for life and work for an organization, progressed through it, and be protected by it. compared to what younger people now face when they are coming up. and they might just be seeing as to spendable -- as expendable. there is a breakdown of neutral trust in terms what the agencies can do and what the agencies can protect them with, thereby. there is also -- there is also some stuff here. it is not just the interpersonal, it is not just the way we perceive mainstream media or whistleblowing. we perceive leaks. it is just a breakdown of trust i think, which is really sad. and the key question is how can we rebuild those two adhere to societies again, rebuild that trust again tom:

snowden confirmed that back in 2010, the us government authorized hacker attacks on foreign political parties and organizations in the united states , he was charged in absentia with espionage snowden asked for political asylum and remained in russia. but content and having studied it was taken for granted, now no one will say what is genuine and what is not , the same commentators refer to part of the information as true to another part, as an obvious falsification of the question of faith, anything can be proved, which means , nothing is possible, the phenomenon, in truth, took over , irrevocably further plot moves , predictable behind the young dunce, someone stood from the rednecks of the trumpists, yes, russian trolls through competing clans in the intelligence community, and again all versions are of equal reliability. she's not authentic when on the face of malicious manipulation - this is even worse if it is not clear someone is deliberately fooling, head or total communication environment. he lives his own life, confusing the confused people themselves. maybe it's time to con

to the at snowden leaks 10 years ago has been very different. at least if you look at it from the european perspective back then 2013. the fall out here was huge. even in cities like berlin, even the german chancellor back then anglo merkel, stressing that spying among friends is unacceptable. well, we're not seeing this kind of outrage from us allies, at least not publicly whether there are discussions privately behind closed doors with the u. s. administration that something i was still don't know. as you mentioned, are much of this information pertains to the war in ukraine, much leaked and promotion that the leaked piles are suggest that that western military forces were talking nato countries involved here, or are operating in ukraine. what are the implications of that told us while there could be very big, in fact, the implications there, but one direct impact, one immediate impact, if you will, is a, could change the narrative in the war in ukraine, especially when it comes to the russian perspective. because they have been saying they wi

snowden confirmed that back in 2010 the us government authorized hacking attacks on foreign political parties and organizations in the united states, he was charged in absentia with espionage snowden asked for political asylum and stayed in russia before the exposure influenced public opinion and the political process, who and why made it public was arguing, but having studied the content, they took it for granted, now no one will say that it is genuine, and what is not, the same commentators refer to part of the information as true to another part, as an obvious falsification of the question of faith , you can prove anything, which means that nothing can be done further plot moves are predictable behind the young dunce, someone stood from the rednecks of the trumpists, yes, russian trolls through competing clans in the dawn of the community, and again all versions are of equal reliability. it is not credibility when malicious manipulation is on the face. this is bad and worse. if it is not clear, someone deliberately fools his head or the total communication environment. he lives his

so snowden had this feeling that he wasn't appreciated.e needed to have more authority than he did . people didn't understand how smart he was all of those kinds of things. you saw that same kind of thing and the chelsea manning case so their internal it kind of mechanism is already compromised. they believe that they weren't getting credit weren't having these other issues. they wanted to be more important, and so they took different routes. uh snowden certainly published it, then stole millions of copies and files if you will and took them to russia. chelsea manning exposed a lot of information, and by the way, all of these cases victor they had access to, uh, information that was flowing by them. they were all supposed to keep things moving, not necessarily read them. analyze them understand the information that that was in front of them. so there is this resemblance and again, this particular invent individual went to the chat room to try to puff himself up exactly the kind of language we saw in snowden and chelsea manning. interesting

well, yes, of course, it would be easier if this new snowden attached a scan of his business card toail address, however. some clues have a high-ranking anonymous. obviously not a fan of biden's foreign policy, whether he is a fan of trump is not clear, but it seems that such a version can also be pumped, the leak most likely became the work of one person, whose views are completely at odds with the current policy of the us authorities in the field of national security, for example , a certain edward snowden seeking to reveal the details of the policy towards ukraine and russia snowden left america in time who is behind the leaks, apparently, has the rest of the nerves and is ready for a potential check on the printing industry before it. true, the night cases of pentagon employees have not yet reached, they have already begun to raise, and the number of those who have access to secret briefings has been reduced. in general, they beat their allies and calm them down, bewilderment and discontent reign among them. this leaked saga has thrown us relations with its allies into crisis by

here, uh, the story about edward snowden is a pure allusion to the involvement of russia. name of edward snowden to be uttered when this scandal first broke out. i'm surprised that it sounded just now, because this is immediately what, for example, came to me, uh, another thing came to mind, that a completely different conclusion is needed from this do. here it is necessary not to look at russia. and why such things happen, i would say that and this is similar to snowdan and has a fundamental difference. let's figure it out. what is it? it seems? it's similar in what happened, as edward stone was now depressurized for the second time. this whole system of intelligence cannot, but work in public. ay, this is the basis of the fundamentals of confidentiality, and any intelligence community has now happened, as if the system were to reveal it. you see, it became everything fall out in this similarity, but what is the difference when, uh, i thought about it, you know, but, when the story with edward snowden happened, it looked like this at first, and then with the mining riot f

many of you remember edward snowden or chelsea manning, why does this keep happening here and not reallywhere else was former director of national intelligence john ratcliff. gop race for the white house intensifying, michael pompeo decided he's not jumping in. what about new hampshire and new hampshire governor will he get in question mckee is here we will ask them. karl rove is here to honor dirty politics getting even dirtier and messier. the food fight ain't over. welcome everyone iran to happy to have you. happy weekend but not happy we can for political ads but will get into that in a minute. the latest on the leaker and what is going down will go to alexandria hoff with more on that. >> fox news sources tell us their additional hours looking at that could have to do with how this young man was given access to critical intel or who else helped to spread it online. the 21 year old air national guardsmen face a judge in boston yesterday for allegedly leaking some of the countries top-secret online. jack's father relatives were there as well meaning a swarm of a price as you can see h

but if you look at edward snowden, he was young too, so is bradley manning.o this to get attention, and that's why it's so important to have things like user behavioural analysis monitoring, because you can see changes in individual behaviour. if you do it once, that's a snapshot in time, and people change over time. and this individual was alone during the pandemic and, not unlike a lot of people, played video games, i think he unfortunately fell victim to wanting to have community and used of this access to intelligence as a way to impress other folks and try to get some kind of community affiliation. again, that's the kind of thing that could be detected if you do continuous monitoring, looking for user behavioural... you talk about the _ looking for user behavioural... you talk about the backlog, but wise in that happening given the sensitivities around this classified material? i’iiii sensitivities around this classified material? �* , ., ., sensitivities around this classified material? �* ., ., material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private _ m

yeah, it is, it is. | this is not a problem you will ever fix in its entirety for the edward snowden,that intelligence is most stable when it is widely shared, and one of the lessons of 9/11 was that our intelligence community was not sharing enough information, in that case cia and fbi were not talking to each other. that can lead to tragic outcomes, but the more you share information, the more the possibility one is individual can blow that information. there were these two things we need to do. number one, look at the culture. i want to understand why the culture was a lackadaisical at this base in massachusetts. i want to know what the culture was in the provincial —— presidential transition, various boxes mining the way to mar—a—lago. it is a technological issue and a leadership issue for computers versus —— are very sophisticated today... is the us now, because we know this was not a traditional leak, this was not the way that edward snowden did things, sneaking things out on a thumb drive, this involved a platform called a discord, is the us prepared for what could be a new era

will: and what lessons we can learn from snowden and chelsey manning who took classified documents.n rack. in iraqi. dangerous information. pete: there were 400,000 reports revealed through this and the war wasn't popular in 2010 but this highlighted a lot of civilian deaths that occurred at the hands of coalition forces. also the detention at abu ghraib. similar to the pentagon papers, he's trying to in an antiwar way show what was happening on the ground. those who were there had different opinions how they were conducted but bradley manning got people's attention. will: when it comes to jack teixeira, he is charged under the espionage act as was manning in 2017. these guys by the way, leakers, prosecuted under the espionage act coming gives you some insight what could happen to jack teixeira. pete: antiwar with the pentagon papers, two spies, then sort of surveillance state, the motivation of edward snowden, antiwar with manning, the question is with jack teixeira, was it just being cool in a chat room or will we learn he had political motives to sink something or elevate somethi

but this leak is more dangerous than edward snowden. it is spying on allies pierce it exposed how deeply we penetrated the russian ministry defense and the wegner group. this has exposed human sources. and intelligence sources and methods. at this time because of this guy, there are people in hiding in fear of their lives because if you have the information and have the intelligence, the russians know who had it. therefore they can go back and look and see who could have given it to us. the good news is we have done a pretty good job penetrating russia. for the bad news is the sources might be burned. >> scary to think about. harris, on march 4th the documents move from one server, a more secure smaller one to a broader server where thousands of people on this discord server had access to the documents. but for a month our intelligence community did not know about this. >> we still don't know what they don't know. we don't know if they can give some of those people a peaceful sleep at night and say this is it. there could be add-ons to

it's a really big deal. >> it's a huge deal and worse than snowden.ated the russian ministry of defense. how we penetrated the wagner group. there are people right now i would assume who are in danger of being killed or in hiding because when you -- when the russians find out that we knew certain information. they know who had it and didn't have it and they can go after them. if you see all these oligarchs happening to fall out of buildings, you might see some u.s. sources falling out of buildings, too. that's going to cut off intelligence to us and deter other people from sharing with us because we can't be trusted to keep those secrets. >> bret: julia, also comes at a time when allies seem to be shifting, at least talking like they are shifting, france, for example. and china and that's a concern up on capitol hill. >> absolutely. and what lawmakers are already on recess; however, i think they are going to be asking a lot of questions when they come back. but the timing of this is so interesting. i mean, in ukraine they are about to launch this coun

and intelligence community in daniel mage control how can this happen again ten years after edward snowden >>> the justice department filed an appeal to the supreme court to block a federal appeals court ruling that limits access to an fda approved abortion pill will the court act before the ruling goes into affect? and grant a stay until it can decide the case. >>> i will be joined by pete buttigieg on some of the big headlines this week and the biden administration's $300 million investment in repairing bridges from san diego to albany ♪ >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington the 21-year-old national guardsman charged under two sections of the espionage act for that massive leak of classified documents making his first appearance in a boston federal court. with three family members sitting behind him, jack teixeira was read charges that carry a term of ten years in prison and three years supervised release along with fines. he will be held in detention until a scheduled hearing next wednesday. joining me now, ken dilanian and chris cont kristin welker ken, you read through the u

and scrub things deeply because we've had too much, too many leaks, and some of these leaks with snowdent affect the ukrainians when they hear that they don't have very good air defenses this is a story that's got to be focused on in my judgment. >> i think most people in government would agree it's really, really striking. it's so good to see you again, governor john kasich thank you so much. >> always good to be with you, andrea you're a professional, i like to be with you. thank you. >> thank you, thank you for that. >>> we are going to professionally squeeze in a quick break to pay for the show, and we'll be right back with president biden speaking to the parliament i'm your overly competitive brother. check. psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate. young lady who was, you know, mid 30s, couple of kids, recently went through a divorce. she had a lot of questions when she came in. >>> as promised, president biden is about to

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listen to this. >> it is a huge deal and worse than edward snowden, edward snowden gave away older intelis is exposing how we penetrated the russian defense and the wagner group. there are people i assume in danger of being killed or in hiding. when the russians find out we knew certain information, they knew who had it and who didn't. if you see oligarchs fall out of withstandos of building, that will deter people. >> ashley: 2000 indiana residents being told to evacuate after a -- plumes of black smoke rising into the sky above the factory, which has been shut down since twg nine. officials fear the building could burn for days. the mayor shared this. urging residents to keep windows closed and pets inside. >> todd: nypd releasing video of this man who is on the run following a deadly shooting in harlem. the suspect is talking to someone inside a smoke shop before arguing with a customer and shooting him in the head. he took off immediately and are asking the public for help identifying. one person seriously hurt and 18,000 cattle believed to be dead following a texas dairy farm explos

this is the public interest or inadvertent offence that people such as edward snowden always wanted tont from the consideration of are you liable, did you commit the offence? it is a consideration possibly at sentencing in terms of a mitigating factor for, unlike say and edward snowden this individual does not appear to have intended this to be disseminated outside the discord channel, it doesn't change whether he is criminally liable but it is a consideration that could mitigate a criminal sentence which could be tens upon tens of years depending on the number of documents ultimately he leapt. i number of documents ultimately he lea t. ., ., number of documents ultimately he leat. ., ., ., ., he leapt. i want to ask for more question _ he leapt. i want to ask for more question about - he leapt. i want to ask for more question about the l more question about the motivation here, in the impose investigation one of the suspect�*s acquaintances is quoted as saying "iwould definitely not call him a whistleblower, i would not call ojee a whistleblower in the slightest. to understand this co

— from chelsea manning and edward snowden were motivated by what they thought _ snowden were motivatedimages of his own kitchen worktop and his parents house and taking photographs of his own, he is not a genius, _ photographs of his own, he is not a genius, he — photographs of his own, he is not a genius, he was trying to impress his friends _ genius, he was trying to impress his friends and — genius, he was trying to impress his friends and in this new digital age we have _ friends and in this new digital age we have young people in the chat room _ we have young people in the chat room trying to create a sense of mvstigue — room trying to create a sense of mystique and intrigue and they're prepared — mystique and intrigue and they're prepared to leak really sensitive classified documents which are going to cause _ classified documents which are going to cause lives, as you said, in order— to cause lives, as you said, in order to — to cause lives, as you said, in order to do _ to cause lives, as you said, in order to do that, this really is a worry— order to do that, this really is a

very similar to edward snowden after snowden, wouldn't the government have clamped down on this sortf stuff how could it that happen again >> you would think there was supposed to be a complete reform of the procedures after snowden it's been ten years, and since that time the same question that members, house democrats and the republican chairman, mike turner, on the intel committee asking, you know, how could this happen, and jack lee, the armed services chairman. there's going to be oversight hearings on the hill the fact is, the difference with snowden, according to his friends in the chat room, and eric toller, the first to actually find that these leaks were out there, and then continue to work and then working with "the new york times" actually sooer rzero in report the identity of jack teixeira, and it was just shortly behind that, frankly, right behind that, according to the affidavit, the time line that we now have that the fbi caught up with him and yesterday made that arrest in full armour with, you know, the vehicles and long guns, you know, at the ready, and taking it i

officials say a leading theory is that the leaks came from a disgruntled contractor similar to snowden. the timeline, 53 documents posted online many between february 23rd and march 1, some date back to january. secret arms deal between egypt and russia and the docs come from cia and nsa, and e-mails about evidence dropping on south korea and israel and reveal ukraine will run out of air defense missiles by the end of may. here is john kirby. >> we are all working at this very, very hard and trying to get answers to find out where this breach occurred. i don't know and it would be foolish to determine how long that will take. >> lucas: in taiwan, china launched aircraft to carry out simulated attacks and beijing says piwant president has become a pawn of the u.s., saying tsai ing-wen sided with the united states, pushing taiwan to stormy seas. senator marco rubio reacted. >> if there is capability gap, we have to close. we have not invested in things we need to, we are focused on the middle east and other parts of the world. we need to create deterrence to china. this is not a presiden

edward snowden stole over one million documents.ems reasonable to presume that whoever did post them has market mike turner -- has more of them. mike turner joins us from washington. ank you for being with us. it is extraordinary that these documents were just sitting there on the web and for such a long period of time. do you think was responsible? >> the investigations are ongoing. there is this time not a lot known as to how these documents were leaked, who did it, but even though these documents were in a forum where they were photographed and then posted, which would lend itself to think someone had actual possession o these documents, it could still be a hack. but we will g to the bottom of this. two important things -- one we need to close the and two, we need to get an understandi of the damage that has occurred. we can do an assessment of what changes we need to make and how we help ukrain christian: how do you shut it down? >> getting to the root and getting access to these documents. when you look at these documents comin