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, me now is christopher snowdon, head lifestyle economics head of lifestyle economics at the .topher. the one thing that rishi said that resonated with me was this point that no parent wants his or her children to smoke . i certainly children to smoke. i certainly don't want my children to smoke . this is marvellous. i mean, it means two of my children will legally be allowed to buy cigarettes and the other four won't be. way, shouldn't won't be. in a way, shouldn't i be that rishi should be be saying that rishi should be tougher and bring it for 16 tougher and bring it in for 16 year now? year olds now? >> well , it depends. >> well, it depends. >> well, it depends. >> i mean, i would rather have my child grow up in a free country, to be perfectly honest with you. and, you know, when she's an adult, she's going to be an adult. it's for me be an adult. and it's not for me to her what to do anymore. to tell her what to do anymore. and not for the and it's certainly not for the government her what government to tell her what to do. i we have here a do. so i think we have here a f

that's christopher snowdon the institute of snowdon from the institute of economic of economic affairshere, and lifestyle economics there, and journalist author julie journalist and author julie cook. much indeed cook. thank you very much indeed for we got through for your time. we got through quite lot there quite a lot there from toothbrushing to smoking ban to whether to ban things whether wanting to ban things that just that other people do is just part of our human nature, or at least seems part of least it seems to be part of politicians is human nature. yes. you're in favour of yes. if you're in favour of this, i'm there are people this, i'm sure there are people who smokers who are in who are smokers who are in favour because it favour of this ban because it won't them that are impacted. won't be them that are impacted. but we all know how but then again, we all know how bad our health smoking is. bad for our health smoking is. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, emily carver. let me know what you think about that one. we've got lots more coming on today'

iea, christopher snowdon and dr. lawrence gerlis. thank you both. ever so much for joining me.g me. i'm going to come to you first, lawrence rishi sunak is effectively saying that we'll have two tiers of citizens. one's who, when they're older, will be able buy cigarettes will be able to buy cigarettes and that won't. do and ones that won't. do you think way think that this in any way a threat to liberties ? threat to liberties? >> well, leaving aside the practicalities of this, because people can go abroad and buy cigarettes, presumably, and there's already an alternative market in the uk for cigarettes leaving that aside, i gb news viewers know that i'm anti the nanny state. i was anti—lockdown. i don't believe in sugar taxes. i'm pretty much a libertarian . i've been accused a libertarian. i've been accused of being a libertarian . having of being a libertarian. having said that, the problem is cigarette smoking is unique , cigarette smoking is unique, highly damaging to health, uniquely me. the problem is that message gets lost because we're told that sugar is bad for us. f

iea, christopher snowdon and dr. lawrence gerlis. thank you both. ever so much for joining me. i'm going to come to you first, lawrence rishi sunak is effectively saying that we'll have two tiers of citizens. one's who, when they're older, will be able buy cigarettes will be able to buy cigarettes and that won't. do and ones that won't. do you think way think that this in any way a threat to liberties ? threat to liberties? >> well, leaving aside the practicalities of this, because people can go abroad and buy cigarettes, presumably, and there's already an alternative market in the uk for cigarettes leaving that aside, i gb news viewers know that i'm anti the nanny state. i was anti—lockdown. i don't believe in sugar taxes. i'm pretty much a libertarian . i've been accused a libertarian. i've been accused of being a libertarian . having of being a libertarian. having said that, the problem is cigarette smoking is unique , cigarette smoking is unique, highly damaging to health, uniquely me. the problem is that message gets lost because we're told that sugar is bad for us. fat is