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intent of leaking something like this, what is somebody at white house or pentagon trying to tell snus. >> this concern within the administration about what is the plan because they don't want to be in this situation, six, eight months from now where they have to make the choices, bombing iran that involves a war in the middle east or get iran get the bomb. bill: two more points, first of all, mike mullen was in new york yesterday, he was making a speech at columbia university, he was asked about this topic, here's how he reacted. >> from from my perspective, that's the last option is to strike iran. and i think i was very clear about the decision space here, to not much decision space, because of the two outcomes, having a weapon and striking generate unintended consequences that are difficult to predict. bill: i don't know if was prepared to answer that but in all likelihood he didn't think the memo would get out. >> when you're in the administration, you think everything is possible to leak so you have to take that into consideration. bill: people in washington are telling you this