when the soviet union collapsed, so did cuba. they're military no longer had the provisions.round the fields growing their own food. it lost the royalty was saved and is they have to look to venezuela. hugo chavez looked upon the cubans the with the romans looked upon the ancient greece. so he would -- field in a great deal. he sent to oil. and in return the cubans sent medical doctors and police organizers to venezuela to help. so there was a relationship. it's another example of how they slipped from one great power into the orbit of another. today i don't consider to a rogue state. think it's a state that is failing in many respects and moving away very slowly from a doctrinaire communists in the elegy and allowing some minor changes in the economy which are more free market than in the past. >> one of the takeaways from this book, as the world relapses back to a great power politics, modern-day might give dalliance will look for their prince and find him. the this says it may come of loan will states have traditionally succumbed to align themselves with a more powerful pa

so much. >> she went to the soviet union and was lauded. went to cuba, and was praised. didhe really think they had a better deal? >> in a lot of ways, yes, i believe during that time she did. did she have criticism for the practice of communism? absolutely. part of the reason she was interested in it is because of the economic and social justice. that has really been the problem, especially for people of color. >> it sounded like richard's voice from cbs. is that where you got that clip? >> you know, i cannot quite remember. i do want to say one of the things about the revolutionary time, a lot of people died. a lot of people were killed unnecessarily. it was really important to have not one funeral but two. this is a scene right after the august 7 incident. no matter what side politically you were on, you were going to funerals. there was deep regret and sadness about that. this is the thing. the ballistics that were measures taken from that august 7 event, it was not clear who shot who and how that happened. it was also very unclear as to whether the guards shot first. >>

have to go to cuba to interview angela, that is so amazing. >> where did you interview her?> oakland, in her home. is her sister doing? >> she was a lawyer, a nonprofit. >> here is a clip of angela talking. clip] >> angela sat down next to her two temporary lawyers. the judge ordered a copy of the charge delivered to her and advised her of her right to an attorney. >> when the attorney general heange me in california, indicated he wanted the death penalty on each of the three charges. he wanted the death penalty three times. that made me realize how serious they were. it made me realize it was not about me. i could not be killed three times. it was about the construction of this imaginary enemy and i was the embodiment of the enemy. >> angela must be freed now. in very high spirits, feeling good. >> right on. >> she is feeling good because she knows the movement to see our political presence is growing everyday. that is what makes us feel good erie >> who were the two people there in the clip? >> angela's sister and her brother. after thet happened acquittal verdict to angel

so much. >> she went to the soviet union and was lauded and was lauded in cuba as well. did she really think they had a better deal? during that time, in a lot of ways. did she have criticism for the practice of communism? absolutely. she's no longer communist party member. part of the reason she was interested in it, i think, is because of the economic and social justice, because that has really been a problem especially for people of color. >> it sounded like richard's voice from cbs? was that where you get the clip from the funeral? but i cannot quite remember. i do want to say one of the things about this revolutionary period was a lot of people were killed unnecessarily. it was real important to have not won funeral but two funerals. this was a scene right after the august 7 incident. because no matter what side you're on politically, you're going to funerals. there was deep regret and sadness about that. >> who -- jonathan jackson? >> the ballistics that were measured and taken were all from that august of an event. it was very unclear who shot who and how it happened.

cuba. so i think it was a useful thing that he did in starting that debate here, and we should be discussing that debate, rather than debating edward snowden. that's really the unfortunate thing. >> we'll bring you back in a few minutes. >>> opening statements in the george zimmerman trial start tomorrow. what is and what's not allowed in court. we'll talk about that. >>> plus, 15%, that's right, 15% of photographers' response to the bioracial cheerios commercial and the backlash that followed. his new efforts to highlight interracial american families. >>> plus, this. >> why were hecklers booing nancy pelosi last night at a liberal event? what she said to infuriate that crowd. betes, it's tough to keep life balanced. i don't always have time to eat like i should. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna. helping people with diabetes find balance. [ male announcer ] glucerna. so you can capture your receipts, ink for all business purchases. and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so

so to map this whole thing, he left hong kong. he's believed to still be in russia, did not, we believe, get on that flight to cuba or venezuela to try to get to ecuador. this has been quite a challenge to keep up with where he is. the bottom line, he's trying to get out of russia, trying to get to an area he thinks will be a lot more friendly. the ecuadorian foreign minister said this morning in considering his application he's been persecuted. he questions whether or not treason is appropriate here. the u.s. miffed about the fact that hong kong let him go. sources with reuters this morning reported it was china that had influence there, told hong kong don't stop him. they apparently were concerned about reports from snowden that the u.s. had been snooping on their computers. there was talk about paperwork that foo trying to get him expedited. the u.s. says there was no problem with the paperwork. hong kong says there was, and in trying to get it worked out, he got away, got to russia. we believe he may still be there. marla. >> okay. a situation we'll keep our eye on. thanks, tracie. >>> we want to tell you about developing wea

so with his view of himself is taking the long view. >> we conclude this evening with cuba gooding, jr., he is making his broadway debut in the trip to bountifully. >> we did a month of rehearsals before we did our first preview, so you are in there and talking the lines and working it out in the rehearsal hall, so we are, everybody is wearing whatever we wore that day to rehearsal, then you do that transition, this emotional transition to the theatre, you step in the theatre for the first time and you look out and see all of the empty red seats and you kind of have to reground yourself and put the actual costume you will be wearing for seven, eight months on, and then you look over at your co-star and then after you get over the trauma of that experience and realizing that this is now the new reality of in the only this character but this story, you have to fight all of the things that you thought you knew about the character and kind of reground them in this new existence. >> david ignatius, les, jo alter and cuba gooding, jr. when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our st

did not grade he immediately took a flight from hong kong to moscow. so where will he finally end up? ecuador is the logical choice. it's only a short light from cuba, it is a cyber haven that has championed the cause of internet freedom, and its embassy in london is currently offering asylum to julian assange. wherever he goes, it's clear the united states will not give up its efforts to have him arrested. but this has shown the reach of the u.s. does not extend to every corner of the world. >> what more do we know about edward snowden's whereabouts? >> we understand he is at the airport. it is nearly midnight here in moscow. he arrived around 5:00 in the afternoon but has not been seen. the plane touched down and he by greeted on the steps ecuadorian diplomats. we heard shortly after that a tweet from the foreign minister who formally announced wikileaks and edward snowden had applied for asylum for the 30 years old whistleblower. he is at the airport. he has not got a russian visa, so he will stay there. he as another 15 hours to wait before his flight leaves for cuba. with him on that flight will be ecuadorian diplomats and his own legal resear

to help him to do so so he's essentially stuck in limbo for the forseeable future now we did speak to air a flow that's the airline that's operating those flights to have been a cuba they said that he is not on any of the passenger lists for the coming few days noting reportedly did check into a capsule hotel at the transfer area here at the sheremetyevo airport this is one of those you know temporary little hotels we can get a room with a bathroom to stay he reportedly remained there for about four hours and then left with a group of men unclear where he left to but to the best of our knowledge at this point he remains inside that transit zone in that airport so far the u.s. has been using traditional diplomatic channels to try to get him back and the americans can't actually ask russia to extradite him because there is no extradition treaty between the two countries they can ask the russians. for example expel snowden but president vladimir putin here and russia said that he is not willing to do that at this moment but we did also hear president obama speak at a press conference in senegal he said that he has not personally spoken to for example the chinese pres

media went on to that flight on cuba bonzo have been aware she was not in giving them a little bit of a three day holiday that perhaps many of them did not even plan for so the waves continues and we are right here to bring you the latest when we get it bill thanks very much indeed for that live update outside. for. well russia and china remain caught between the us and the whistleblower on the run washington is angry that neither is helping catching but as art is going to judge carney explains some believe america is just using the scapegoats to distract attention from the real issue it's global surveillance program. u.s. secretary of state john kerry hinted at possible consequences that russia may face for its response on snowden saying at times russians have criminals in the u.s. they're looking for and he said the u.s. has cooperated on handing over seven of them in the past two years although if it were a russian whistleblower who stood up for civil liberties in russia it's kind of hard to imagine the us handing them over very quickly especially if the us were not legally obliged to do so and in the case of snowden we heard the russian president say

sheremetyevo airport he did leave via flight from hong kong here to russia supposedly en route to cuba he was supposed to board that flight on monday that never ended up happening and so now he's stuck here at the share minute about transit so now the u.s. has revoked his passport which certainly makes things more complicated it's unclear whether he'll be able to board. another flight or even buy a ticket without a valid passport we even though we did hear from the air afloat that's the airline that is supposed to be flying out those flights to havana cuba they said that snowden is not a booked on any of those flights for the next few days however there is speculation that perhaps he could actually board there is a flight that's leaving at two pm our correspondent is actually in the transit zone so let's see what she has for us as she's trying to figure out whether snowden is they are not every now yes lucy actually yes i am here i'm actually by the gate right now as far as i can tell nobody none of the people that i've found and that i've seen actually looks like snowden again we cannot rule out the fact that he could have changed his appearance i mean it only takes

flight to cuba that everybody expected him to take by the whistleblower trying to move on and avoid extradition to the u.s. where he is wanted as we've been saying for espionage charges so how did it all start to arrive in hong kong may twentieth june sixth he revealed about the prism program that the n.s.a. was using to spy on people globally he goes public with his revelations on june ninth to the guardian newspaper and then on g g twenty tapping scandal where on june sixteenth. he revealed that people at the g twenty summit were spied on including heads of state and world leaders then on june twenty first the us filing espionage charges orders and g.c. h.q. accessing world phone calls a leak that's another word bread crumb of information rather that edward snowden revealed and then he also revealed on june twenty third that the u.s. spied on chinese phones and starting his journey to a democratic state wajir russia with the help of wiki leaks where he goes next we don't quite know but allegedly said to be as we've said on a plane bound for havana while british human rights activist peter tatchell thinking that it's the u.s. government and not edward snowden who should be hel

lot of pedophilia brought in -- the people who did it were brought in from the united states often, and were members of the mob, and so they would come to cuba and gamble and avail themselves of prostitutes and of very small children, very young children. one of these children was a child that celia had known because of her work with her doctor/father, and this child has been raped to death, and this was a turning point for her and for many of the women. all of these revolutionary women who took up arms and were co-instigators of the cuban revolution, who get rid of batista, the ticket tar -- dictator who was in the pocket of the united states. so i read this through. it's amazing. nancy stout, the writer, had access to the archives and letters between celia and fidel, and it is such an eye-opening read because you understand that part of what -- we know so many of the reasons why we're kept in the dark about cuba. but one of the big things that we had no idea about was just how strong the women component was in that revolution, and so because we were always shown just these men that basically had to be eradicated, and celia herself lived to

he was expected to be on a flight cuba which left a couple of hours ago, but we are also told that he apparently did not board that plane. so it's assumed his final destination was going to be ecuador where he's requested asylum. ecuador's foreign minister said a decision will be made in due time. brianna keilar is following all of the details. so the question i have for you, and i'm not sure what the government is saying, but is the white house more angry or more embarrassed at what's going on right now? >> reporter: i think that right now there is a lot of frustration, but i also think when you're talking about the issue of embarrassment, i think it's more that the administration stands to be at risk of ineffectual. there is a stern warning that relations with the u.s. could be stressed. and also pressure on a defiant russia to act. and what you're seeing is it seems a concerted effort among administration officials to paint snowden as sort of hypocritical, raising questions about his sort of self described being a champion of internet freedom and freedom of the press. here is the secretary of state a short time ago. >> i

cuba although we did speak to our daniel ellsberg another prominent american whistleblower he exposed pentagon papers back in one thousand nine hundred ninety one a detail in washington's controversial decision making process so during the vietnam war he believes very few people at the end of the day can measure up to snowden's sacrifice. i think he would be in much the same cell as bradley manning if not in the same cell or comical any could be under the national defense authorization act he could be in military detention but even if not he would be in a jail cell somewhere as incommunicado as bradley manning is for the last three years so i think it's very wise to make it as voters outside of this country and i think that we should be listening to what he has to say because what so far i've heard him say is very eloquently put in shows much better judgment than those of his colleagues who went along with it is clearly unconstitutional but they were all participating and i would say the charm carries calling him a traitor is just trusting and he's no more a traitor than i am and i am not all that words used above me by a president and a vice president both of whom by the way to lost their office for criminal

did i remember it. probably taking a flight to cuba and then from there, one or more connecting flights to get him to ecuador. fredericka? >> thanks so much, phil black. appreciate that. washington likely pretty aggravated with moscow and hong kong for enabling snowden to escape from their clutches. dan lothian joining me now. what options does the u.s. have? >> reporter: well, the main option is that they hope that law enforcement and whatever country snowden ends up in will immediately detain him and send him back here to the united states. they had hoped that would have been hong kong. there's hope that perhaps even russia will jump in on this. at this point, it's unclear. we know there are a lot of discussions taking place behind the scenes with u.s. officials and officials hong kong, as well. but, you know, officials here at the white house are relatively tight lipped. the president has been briefed throughout the day, updates from the national security team. there's a tricky diplomatic situation and talking about what's happening with russia and the role russia could pailly play in all of this. officials here not talking about

did that. chris? >> this is one of the coolest things he has done so far. at least since dating the acrobat. 24 people that no one wants around, journalists, all the way to cubaith no booze. instead of where castro sent awflt criminals to miami -- all of the criminals to miami we sent a sweaty box of reporters who needed rum and stuck there for three days. >> this is the first time i have ever had sympathy fort meade yaw. i -- for it is -- for the media. i couldn't do 16 hours on a plane without alcohol. >> i don't know why there wasn't alcohol. >> there was violence on the plane and some of the people were inebriated before the plane took off and they were drunk and they had to take the alcohol away. >> whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. are you saying that a transatlantic flight from russia to cuba had a drunk on it? nope, not buying it. >> not buying it at all. all right. what can the white house do here? for some reason they presume that russia would help us out because we helped them? we scuttled the missal system in poland and the czech republic. i think i made up that fact, but i am not sure. >> does it matter? >> we have done all of those favors and this is what

did not seem to be so suspect. i don't know his motivations, but i know his travels. from you in china and you go to russia and thinking about cubala and end up in ecuador, it is not because you love the united states so much and you want to protect americans. these are countries that are in no stretch of the imagination friendly to the u.s. they are leading him in why and how? there is something in it for them. china is not doing it as a humanitarian gesture and neither is ecuador or the other countries. they are doing it because they will get something out from him. and what will he do with that information? he will share it to the hostile governments. that does do harm to the united states. i don't know his motivationsment that's to be questioned. i know we should judge hem by his action and these countries are openly hostile to the united states. it calls into question what he wants to get out of this. it is a real irony that he is looking at countries where press freedoms are not celebrated and a person like him would not survive five days in china or russia or venezuela or cuba or ecuador. incredible. >> congresswoman, we a