but world war ii was making progress soames, world war i. they were trying to make pro-war films during iraq and afghanistan and discovered they just didn't work. and so they just stuck making them. >> next caller from longview texas. this is wanda appeared welcome to the conversation, wanda. >> hi, this is really interesting. i wanted to ask mr. ross is he a thing -- of course they do have lots of money behind him and try to influence us on a lot of things and a lot of people say no, just entertain us and i'll be lecturing us. do you think that there is a lot of info in? you think they move things today acquired >> tanks. her question ultimately is how much do movies that the population to appoint a few? how much influence do they really have? >> at the very subtle one. one of the things i would argue his movies mattered the most about the things we know the least. if you see a film about something you know, you can do a reality test to get to the film and just laugh at it or say it's absurd. but if you watch a film about them if you don't