giant ali baba and now working with the state to write the algorithms that will calculate your social credit score they've already got the know how and they use a dollar from their financial credit system alley pat a manager of alli petain jing is chong. here you know you want to might you caught up by someone to like you need a tissue and wait a way to. go through put your money on a house that you're going through as you well know when they say can do you know we are just a young souls into these in case you don't see you tonight. sounds dramatic but it's the party line. pilot programs for a national social credit system are already on the way by 2020 the official outlined boasts it will allow the trustworthy to run freely and to heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step. but you're drawing more tonight that actions and the fact i'm trying to say that sounds like born to jennifer johnson. while a good job because you feel your passion to the fact out. it's in its addition to. the fact that dollars in the federal marshal $105.00 yes ma'am. friend dan dan is going

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take on social credit is simple and ruthless. citizens here and not given a school instead they're divided into just 3 categories trustworthy average untrustworthy. if you're han chinese you're dame trustworthy and granted freedom of movement but if you're wiggo your average with restrictions imposed on travel and religious practices if you're a weak a mile who breaks those restrictions you'll marked as untrustworthy and detained in what the party calls education and training centers. tuckey how much has another name for them. sure it was like much of the night a car. but. not of an. i don't think you. should at once year term machine. and i think and the butcher well it's like a little band. not on. at work we took it out on our. in august last year the u.n. announced it had seen credible reports there over a 1000000 we get a currently held without charging camps in jan purely because of their ethnicity the chinese government rejects the claim insisting it only detains convicted terrorists to his personal experience tells a diff

take on social credit is simple and ruthless. citizens here and not given a school instead they're divided into just 3 categories trustworthy average untrustworthy. if you're han chinese you're damed trustworthy and granted freedom of movement. but if you're wiggo your average with restrictions imposed on travel and religious practices if you're a weak a mile who breaks those restrictions you'll marked as untrustworthy and detained in what the party calls education and training centers. talkie how much has another name for them. sure it was like an extra night of power. but a. lot of. total. i don't think you. should at once year term machine. and i think and the board chair was like a little band. not on. at work we took it out on our. in august last year the u.n. announced it had seen credible reports there are over a 1000000 we get a currently held without charging camps in jan purely because of their ethnicity the chinese government rejects the claim insisting it's only detains convicted terrorists tie his personal experience

the plan is for all chinese citizens to be brought into the social credit scoring system in 2020.and uses data everything from financial records and traffic violations to use of birth control and processes that data through algorithmic software to give people a score for their overall trustworthiness. a high social credit score can mean better access to jobs loans travel and even online dating opportunities. can mean being denied some of the modern benefits of citizenship. probably the most troubling aspect of social criticism is not necessarily the social credit system itself but actually the application of some of these facial recognition technology is to expand the surveillance state and to check behavior of citizens in the western region of job where at. minorities waders have been disproportionately targeted in terms of their location being tracked 247 whether they're going to mosques which areas of their traveling to and that has been empowered or is in the process of being empowered by facial recognition algorithms being connected through security integrators. autonomous re

take on social credit is simple and ruthless. citizens here and not given a school instead they're divided into just 3 categories trustworthy average untrustworthy. if you're han chinese you're dame trustworthy and granted freedom of movement. but if you're wiggo your average with restrictions imposed on travel and religious practices if you're a weak a mile who breaks those restrictions you'll marked as untrustworthy and detained in what the party calls education and training centers. tuckey how much has another name for them. sure it was like a much better night at target. but a. lot of the. i don't think you. should at once year term machine. and i think and the butcher was like a little band. not on. at work we took it out on our. show. in august last year the u.n. announced it had seen credible reports there are over a 1000000 we get a currently held without charging camps in chief john purely because of their ethnicity the chinese government rejects the claim insisting it only detains convicted terrorists tie his personal e

the plan is for all chinese citizens to be brought into the social credit scoring system in 2020. and uses data everything from financial records and traffic violations to use of birth control and processes that data through algorithmic software to give people a score for their overall trustworthiness. a high social credit score can mean better access to jobs loans travel and even online dating opportunities. can mean being denied some of the modern benefits of citizenship. probably the most troubling aspect of social criticism is not necessarily the social credit system itself but actually the application of some of these facial recognition technology is to expand the surveillance state and to check behavior of citizens in the western region of job where at. minorities waders have been disproportionately targeted in terms of their location being tracked 247 whether they're going to mosques which areas of their traveling to and that has been powered or is in the process of you know empowered by facial recognition algorithms being connected through security integrators. autonomous

the plan is for all chinese citizens to be brought into the social credit scoring system in 2020. and uses data everything from financial records and traffic violations to use of birth control and processes that data through algorithmic software to give people a score for their overall trustworthiness. a high social credit score could mean better access to jobs loans travel and even online dating opportunities a low score can mean being denied some of the modern benefits of sit. probably the most troubling aspect of social criticism is not necessarily the social credit system itself but actually the application of some of these facial recognition technology is to expand the surveillance state and to check behavior of citizens in the western region of job where ethnic minorities waders have been disproportionately targeted in terms of their location being tracked 247 whether they're going to mosques which areas of their travelling to and that has been powered or is in the process of being empowered by facial recognition algorithms being connected through security integrators. auton

the plan is for all chinese citizens to be brought into the social credit scoring system in 2020. and uses data everything from financial records and traffic violations to use of birth control and processes that data through algorithmic software to give people a score for their overall trustworthiness. a high social credit score can mean better access to jobs loans travel and even online dating opportunities. can mean being denied some of the modern benefits of citizenship. probably the most troubling aspect of social criticism is not necessarily the social credit system itself but actually the application of some of these facial recognition technology is to expand the surveillance state and to check behavior of citizens in the western region of job where at. minorities waders have been disproportionately targeted in terms of their location being tracked 247 whether they're going to mosques which areas of their traveling to and that has been empowered or is in the process of you know empowered by facial recognition algorithms being connected through security integrators. autonomou

the plan is for all chinese citizens to be brought into the social credit scoring system in 2020. and uses data everything from financial records and traffic violations to use of birth control and processes that data through algorithmic software to give people a score for their overall trustworthiness. a high social credit score can mean better access to jobs loans travel and even online dating opportunities. can mean being denied some of the modern benefits of citizenship. probably the most troubling aspect of social criticism is not necessarily the social credit system itself but actually the application of some of these facial recognition technology is to expand the surveillance state and to check behavior of citizens in the western region of job where at. minorities waders have been disproportionately targeted in terms of their location being tracked 247 whether they're going to mosques which areas of their traveling to and that has been powered or is in the process of you know empowered by facial recognition algorithms being connected through security integrators. autonomous

in some way if you think about the origin of some of the the social credit coming from some of the major private businesses in china how different is it really from a kind of experience or an equifax or one of these set of credit rating agencies that actually do collect also very granular data on westerners and and that data is then shared with all kinds of other entities and used to make consequential decisions in current operation i would say that they are different i think the difference will be when it's not just your financial behavior one it's also your social your political behavior that gets observed and oftentimes the social credit system becomes a projection of our own fears about what is happening in our societies in the west where it's not necessarily what is object really happening in china that is important but it's about using what's happening in china as a way to project what we're afraid of. so when i think about china's millions of workers being tracked 247. and potentially put into reeducation camps i think about the black community in the united states i think about p

that local government continues the experiment of social credit. they modify and revise but the experiment continues. now there are over 40 pilot projects. but the public discussion on those issues, zero. that is what is happening in china. >> thank you. senator, yes >> you mister chairman. before your start for those of you who see us coming and going i want to ask whenever minute, the leadership recently scheduled for votes of this meeting but because of the importance of this particular issue when you said not to put the meeting off we will continue on. we will have to step out and go from time to time but various members will preside i am going to go vote and you can chair if you would like. >> thank you mister chairman. this week marks the 30th anniversary of the tiananmen square massacre people around the world continue to remember. on june 4 1989 the government of china sent tanks into tiananmen square to violently suppress and forcibly dispersed peaceful demonstrators. chinese governments infantry troops opened fire on students and activist

social credit system. it's empowering thend state to control, monitor, manipulate china's population. with capacity to individuals. it can also help the state to identify authorization. china is exploiting these technologies around the world. enabling global authoritarianism. the u.s. must develop a policy to stop this industry. working with allies, convince china from using its government to control the companies for its digital interest. we must have no illusions, it is in 16th for dictatorship, abuses and threat of liberty and safety of chinese people andnd people's life anywhere in this increasingly interconnected globe. this is not a clash of civilization. it is a clash between two different systems. between democracy and one-party dictatorship. we need to look at taiwan, chinese civilization works well with governors. south korea and india. as a son of china, and a citizen of the u.s. of america, i'm asking eh of you, we are making the best possible china possible, the value and interest of american

which i think would make george in 1984 pale in comparison when china is literally creating this social credit system, on a financial credit basis and on a social credit basis, how loyal each of the citizens are to the regime, based upon the daily movements and because of the presence of facial recognition and the willingness of chinese tech companies to share the information with the government, that authoritarian monitoring surveillance concerns me greatly. so, that vision they are offering around the world, number one and number two what concerns me is, i think we sometimes have underestimated the economic and other benefits that have occurred in our country from being the technological leader of the last 60 years, being the leader in setting the standards and the host of each of these technological innovations, it is really brought us along. i think it will be a very different world, if in these areas like ai, facial recognition, 5g, if china is a leader in china ends up setting the standards . >> we know this very well, some european governments are affecting -- question in this band, hav

think would make george or well 1984 pale in comparison, when china is literally creating this social credit system whereby it will know not on a financial credit basis but a social credit basis how loyal each of its citizens are to the regime based upon their daily movements, because of the presence of facial recognition, because of the willingness of the chinese tech companies to share that information with the government. that authoritarian monitoring surveillance state concerns me greatly, so that vision that they're offering around the world, number one and number two, what concerns me is i think we sometimes have underestimated the economic and other benefits that have accrued to our country from being the technological leader of the last 60 years, being the leader in setting the standards and house to these technological innovations really has brought us a lot. i think it will be a very different world if in these areas like ai, facial recognition, 5 g, quantum if china is the leader and china ends up setting the standards. >> some of the european governments, you know this very well,

this predated the firewall and now what we are seeing in the social credit system you see the visionthat has been there from the beginning but now that tools are gradually falling into place. i don't think it is quite there yet. i think a lot of what has been discussed about the system may not be fully implemented in reality. simply understanding the intent is useful because there is a large possibility of a harnessing of data to manage the society in ways that we just haven't really conceived of yet. we are starting to see that now and we are to be implemented both within china and elsewhere around the world it would be a truly chilling democracy. >> i think all the witnesses for their courage and due diligence. >> thank you mr. chairman. i want to thank all of the witnesses for your appearing here today. i'm honored to have the opportunity to recognize each of you for your lifelong dedication to activism to the family and friends here today and watching from abroad who are still loved ones in tiananmen square i want to thank you for your commitment to advocacy and the courage that

paul: for those who didn't know about it, what do they think about the social credit system?uanced. china has had issues with behavior. we had the big scandal with milk powder being poisoned. things like jaywalking and littering. this is a way to stop people behaving poorly and people support it, but this is a very invasive way to control how people behave. people worried that errors could lead to them not being able to get bank accounts and loans. there is worried that this would be used and abused as a way to keep people in check, to change how they behave. western politicians worrying about a dystopia. founded should their worries be, given the teething problems? >> it is hard to tell at the moment because these things are not really solid yet. it has been problems. there are things that the government needs to happen. it is for all agencies involved to have the data to work together. that is not happening because of the simple reason of bureaucracy. the departments are not sharing as they should and they do not want to take on the responsibility. you for telling us about

it was more than just credit reports. it was social security numbers. it was telephone numbers. it was addresses. it was pretty deep. none of that has moved us as a country, so there is a framework called the c.i.a. triad. c.i.a. is not the intelligence division. it's confidentiality, integrity, and accessibility. it's exactly what eva was just talking about. people taking data, the opm data, people taking the equifax data, people taking the biology data that the secretary referred to that doesn't seem to be enough, to trigger this sputnik moment. so the next level of that triad is integrity. so what happens when we move from someone taking data to actually manipulating that data, and then using it back at us for bad purposes? as an example, you're a hospital patient and you're either a target of someone who wants to do harm or just a terrorist who wants to make an example of you, and you have a certain blood type. they have infiltrated the data. on the operating table, they change the blood type. so the surgeon thinks you have a different blood type and gives you different bloo

particular, using big data, artificial intelligence, as a means of population control with their social credit system. and then you have people who approach technology as the ultimate democratic tool of transparency. do you believe we can reach some common understanding as of how to put that toothpaste back in the tube and really control it, rather than let it get out of control? mr. kissinger: how you change the historic attitudes of societies, in china this is not just a problem of a leader in china, but you have a society which for thousands of years has been educated that service to the society is the overwhelming purpose, and therefore it's part of their dna. we have been fortunate of having a very humane environment, and so we have been able to concentrate on other immediate problems. it will take a while to adjust, and i have a view that not everybody shares, which is we cannot change directly the domestic structure of a historic society. but we have to live with it, in a world, but we can also not turn the world over to it. and how to navigate, this is what i think. kenneth: thank you.

last year we've seen more debate about foreign interference, military or if it is in our region, social creditthis could be impacting on the way australia sees china. what about things like chinese investment in hubs like sydney and melbourne? buying up lots of property and increasing those prices? that is also a factor, we've seen higher levels of australians, 68% saying foreign investment from china is too high in australia. having said that, property prices are not what they used to be in the cities and australians in the past have said they were more concerned about chinese investment or foreign investment more broadly in critical infrastructure like our national broadband network or airports. how does it work that the leader of the united states, donald trump, is, well he's not doing very well in the eyes of australians, yet when it comes to the country at dell, the united states they have more confidence, much, much more confidence, much, much more confidence in the nation itself. how does that work? i think this is the difference between australians' views in the country and the allianc

with establishment of the system of social credits. the state department's 2018 report on human rights practices on china has a long, long list of human rights abuses by the chinese communist government to include unlawful killings by the government, forced disappearances by the government, torture, arbitrary detention, political imprisonment, arbitrary interference with privacy, physical attacks on criminal and criminal prosecutors of journalists, lawyers, writers, bloggers, dissidents, petitioners, and their family members. interference with the rights of peaceful assembly and freedom of association. as well as severe restrictions on religious freedoms. i hope we can take an opportunity today to honor the victims of the 1989 tiananmen square massacre, highlighting that the chinese people still know very little about what transpired that night. i also hope we can have a continued conversation about the current communist chinese party's authoritarian and oppressive tactics that's continuing to violate the basic human rights of the chin

they're going to suppress if you're not nice and this is a case of the chinese are doing with their social credit right if you're it was good for you to travel on the trains and airplanes but if you're not you will be who live so i hope that safety and i get going room with 2 legs this is a wreck with companies like facebook and google who will manipulate the 2020 presidential election by the side of our operation search you know it when russia and russian backed it nothing to both facebook twitter and amazon manipulate everything they're out with so i think with congress in the senate to pass you look into and seriously figure out further west from sensory things bring back remark was on allow everybody's voices be heard and allow the companies didn't see with this should the need arise ready that they are suppressed in terms of the boss or any positive influence like the principle is notice when you think we know we believe that we should have something that is made up where that is some arbitrary and capricious burrage that people dislike and since they dislike it they want to prohibit it they

going to suppress if you do it not nice i mean this is a case of the chinese are doing with their social credit right if you're it was good for you to travel on the trains and airplanes but if you're not you will be who live so i hope safety and i get joining rooms with 2 legs this is rec if companies like facebook and google will manipulate the 2020 presidential election by the siding that will operate the surge you know it when russia and russian backed it nothing to go facebook twitter and amazon manipulate everything they're out with so i think with the congress and the senate to pass you this look into bumpily and seriously figure out for rest from sensory things bring back remark was on allow everybody's voices be heard. in front of the boss or any positive influence like the principle is notice when you think we know we believe that we should know something that is made up with that is some arbitrary and capricious burbage that people dislike when they dislike it they want to prohibit it they want to censor it but look if you don't like with some of these things change the channel don't

you think about the child what's happening in china at the moment with the construction of the social credit system where they're basically monitoring people penalizing them or rewarding them that's just sort of massive you know it's something like george orwell's 984 you know we're all well wrote big brother is watching you know big brother didn't actually have the technological capacity to watch you but now. it does so i think that's that's likely to be to have horrific consequences for inclusion and just the quality of people's lives so i don't think you can you could guarantee the technological improvements like that in a dictatorship would have some technocratic benefits i think it just it just facilitates the manipulation of society by by autocratic elites in my opinion but in we tend never so only that i mean it's usually not the one group of people who are just enriching themselves it's usually you know competing interests why abusing or using the state for their own benefit and i think it's often the case that there are the literature of the political leadership of the country may n

i think we should be a country where people save for their social credit costs, particularly those lastn be very uncomfortable, very painful, just in the same way they save for their pension. i think it should be something that people can opt out of, but it should be an automatic thing. and would you put a cap on social care costs? theresa may kaymer cropper on this very policy. would you put a cap on social care costs? and what would it be? i would do a deal. if you are prepared to save responsibly during your life, then we will cap those costs, because you've done the right thing. we need to be a country that rewards people who do the right thing. and i think if we do that, if we look at where we were in the postwar period where we were in the postwar period where many people didn't save for their pensions, we created a society where the majority of people do save for their pensions, that's the change we need for social care. 0k. you have said that you would not try to change the law to cut the time limit on abortion, but also it's the case that mps tend to put forward this legislatio

kennedy: they have a social credit score, if you violate the norm, sometimes unspoken, they will keeproughout country and out was country, they deny millions of people the ability to access high-speed rail, and airlines based on a low social score that is for things like, smoking in nonsmoking areas. and looking things up on internet net you should not look up. and you know, if you are a friend of the totalitarian state and you don't violate any of those, and don't exhibit any free expression, you can do whatever you want. >> yeah, china create the a new model, i am probably just like you, i assuming you watcher chernobyl, the mentality of soviet union, and disfunction. there is still a totalitarian mind set in china but instead of disfunctional in bread lines and nothing works in china, they are actualing making thins go really fast, and building things really tall and making people a whole lot richer than the past, that buys you a lot of social currency. kennedy: that is a good point, you know i talked about in 1989, boris yeltsin came over, he within to a grocery store in texas he

you can see that face get its background, gets it social credit score and combine that with drone pictures other things that happen elsewhere in the world prayed to somebody just types and doctor carlton i china and massive amounts of information about you can come out varied may be what they do it that they want to send your christmas card or be friendly. >> or maybe not appear he. >> i can imagine it's impossibl to. >> chinese drones are not the only thing spying on you. it turns on and the losses than the gone fishing event-- with fee crafts, giveaways, and free kids' fishing at our catch and release pond this weekend. plus great deals on great gifts for dad. but i'm more than a number. when i'm not teaching, i'm taking steep grades and tight corners. my essilor lenses offer more than vision correction with three innovative technologies for my ultimate in vision clarity and protection together in a single lens: the essilor ultimate lens package. so, i can do more of what i love! buy two pairs of essilor's best lenses and get a $100 back instantly. see more. do more. essilor >> new lawsu

can you see that face, get background get its what they call social credit score and combine that withelse that happens in the world, someone types in tucker carlson in china. a massive amount of information but can come out. what they do with that maybe they want to send you a christmas card and be friendly and maybe they have or maybe not. i think the message is impossible to be too paranoid. thank you for making us more paranoid. >> not my intention. thanks, tucker. >> we appreciate it though. >> tucker: chinese drones not the only thing spying on you, turns out alexa device is too, obviously. a new lawsuit against amazon says that alexa i is legally children. that's ahead. california phones offers free specialized phones... like cordless phones. - ( phone ringing ) - big button, and volume-enhanced phones. get details on this state program. visit right now or call during business hours. and accessoriesphones for your mobile phone. like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program visit right now or call during business h

see american technology companies who have no problem working with china on development of their social credit system or surveillance state tactics some of those same companies having challenges working with the establishment. that is something i think we need to examine, and have some honest conversations with some of those companies. where do we go from here? would leave you with before we get into our conversation. first, we need to sound the alarm. year, because i have had so many of these brief and the evidence has become so overwhelming, i have gone to the intelligence community, and said, simply terrifying or scary members of the intelligence community to give us this information, we are not doing our job if we don't find ways to declassify more this information and get it out to american businesses and american academia. i have started a series of roadshows and we have done 11 of them, where i always take a republican senator partner, usually senator rubio, and along with the director or deputy director of national intelligence and senior levels of fbi and dhs, and bringing groups of b

they're really focused on what they call social credit.hich is a behavioral manipulation strategy. designed to get the entire population doing what the government wants them to do. if you look at google and you look at facebook today, they're in a business that a professor at harvard describes as surveillance capitalism. where for all intents and purposes they're doing the same thing the chinese are doing. they're gathering data about everybody, creating these data voodoo dolls and using that to manipulate the choices around them it's not a government. they're doing it for commercial purposes i don't think we should be competing against china in behavioral manipulation. i would much rather see us spread the opportunities out and do what the united states does really well which is have millions of different start-ups doing amazing things right now you can't do that because google and facebook are so dominant that start-ups can't go near them >> what would need to happen for those start-ups to really grab a foothold right now >> that is the

we also see that china is using these surveillance efforts in its broader system through the social credit system, inside of all of china. the paper goes into that in a little more detail, but there was a phenomenal human rights report that came out that reverse engineered the application that the chinese government was using and applying against residents in xinjiang. one of the examples they gave was that this application was monitoring people such that if they exited out the back door instead of exiting out the front , this was deemed as suspicious activity that could land them inside of a political reeducation facility. i think this is pretty shocking. is usingof how china its technology inside of china are extraordinarily important, but it is also exporting those forms of technology outside of likeountry, and places africa, as well as in latin america, and others highlighted new leaves -- new zealand and other places they are pursuing training. i want to highlight the african particular because china's exporting of technology to africa is not only so that the chinese government itself