the last time is here for a book event was in 2004, when my book six questions of socrates, came out. i started in 1996 at a philosophical group, hoping to revive a forward inquiry that have been made famous by the greek philosopher and with this idea that the vibrant democracies that citizens willingly consider a wide range of objections of alternatives to their own way of saying things. and socrates cafÉ is meant to be a face for friends and foes, intimate strangers alike to gather together and explore thoughtfully in reasonably timely as extensional problems, an explanation that makes people feel bound together more. that was "socrates cafe" and this is "constitution cafe," can have a follow-on in a very imaginative way. let me just ask you a question first. what word does the people's republic of china banned in its blogs and chat rooms, that uses many, many times in its own constitution? [inaudible] democracy. how can that be? they are a democratic republic they claim and yet they won't allow that were to be used in its blogs and chat rooms. how can that be? off with their heads.

bridge and arrested more than seven hundred people on saturday demonstrators in lower manhattan socratic park and central command of the movement remain undeterred despite the crackdown each day more and more people are streaming into the park renamed liberty square to join the protests against corporate greed and an economy that benefits the one percent over the ninety nine percent and elsewhere around the country similar demonstrations have begun thousands flock to dewey square park and boston over the weekend to set up tents and occupy that city indefinitely until major reforms are made to our economy so after the second straight weekend of a police crackdown as this movement hit its peak there is a just beginning in gaining more steam for an update on the latest coming out of new york city and the other occupy demonstrations around the nation i'm joined by serge jaffe associate editor at alter net sarah welcome. thanks for having me tom so based on your reporting what exactly happened on the brooklyn bridge saturday well i was on the march for a little while i had joined the gatherin

. >> sÍ el famoso sÓcrates. >> Él me llevarÁ a los.... >> fue directo al estudio. >> mira ahÍ estÁ tonyoximadamente 2 minutos y no me estÁn dando pues para edithar. >> disculpa. >> serÁ un programa atrevido donde hablarÁn de pasaportes, noticias y sobre todo mujeres. >> y gabriel es el Único aliado de las fÉminas. >> porque Él es. >> simple y sencillamente gay. >> no tierno, no sensible. >> gay. >> para tierno el peluche. >>. >> vas a actuar ¿o tÚ crees?. >> no le saque. >> le saca le metemos. >> sabes por quÉ le dicen perros. >> en un momento harÁn falta tres bozales. >> vamos a recuperar la masculinodad perdida esa capacidad de dominar a la mujer, la vamos a poner en su sitio todas las noches aquÍ en telefutura. >> ¿cuÁl es su sitio?. >> la cocina. >> si realmente fueran perros quÉ raza serÍan?. >> doberman. >> yo soy perro de la calle, tengo combinaciÓn de muchas razas. >> dÁlmata. >> me falta solamente las manchitas blancas. >> eres una mancha completa. >> y tÚ?. >> afgano. >> quÉ dice el verdadero perro de estos tres. >> soy el que mÁs ladra en ese s program programas. >> no hay na

sÓcrates ya tiene a su definitivo! favorito. >> quiÉn va a ganar mira quién baila?rik, como tu mamÁ... >> a mÍ la corazÓn se me brota de la pecho, por eso yo... llÁmame para que me voten a mÍ... y no me voten! >> erik! bueno. >> los amo, los amo. >> gracias, gracias. en instantes, erik va a bailar un baile muy seductor. >> espÉrate, van a bailar! >> pero esta tipo me tiene... >> pancho lÓpez. >> no seas payaso. dÉjame bailar, yo también bailo, de verdad. puedo sacudir el esqueleto. >> tÚ no te preocupes que yo te voy a ayudar a que te metan preso para que no molestes mÁs en esta vaina! vamos a festejar el cumpleaÑos de nuestros seguidores! ♪ ♪ si usted quiere felicitar a un ser querido en el dÍa de su cumpleaÑos (habla en inglÉs) >> quÉ dijo? >> me lo puede decir en espaÑol? >> me vale que no lo entienda... (abucheos) >> me vale, me vale. [risas] >> vamos a bailar un cumbia, lili. >> sandunga. ♪ ♪ [risas] >> estamos de vuelta en despierta amÉrica pero aquÍ como que hace falta pasiÓn, erotismo. (abucheos) me vale! vÁmonos a nueva york con birmania rÍos. buenos días.

. >> sÓcrates! tambiÉn. >> dale los 5! >> aquÍ la gente no lo sabe! pero... >> eso!sa! >> comiendo! >> no nos dejamos intimidar por las mujeres. >> daniel para los que no saben... >> quÉ confianznuo! él! >> gabriel eres mexicano, tÚ. >> es un trÁngulo medio extraÑo. >> somos tres amigos como en la vida real. y este es el perro que ve a la mujer como un objeto sexual y que la cocina y todo esto. y calderÓn es el yerno que toda suegra quisiera. >> el yeo de amÉrica! >> y yo soy un perro que me encantan las mujeres perolas fabulosas. me entiendes! las que se ponen zapatos como la productora del program mi reina! [risas] >> son mis amigas, y a s amigas son mis amigas. pero l perras! porque hay varias perras... >> cÓmo tmblo! >> se las paso a los perros. >> te vi bien apasionado de lo que estÁs diciendo! >> es improvisado? >> tenemos de los dos y nuestra naturaleza canina estÁ a flor de piel pero sÍ estamos muy involucrados. llevamos dos meses de ensayos y tenemos mucho! estadÍsticas, vitadas, nuestras queridas mujeres en el estudio. y serÁ una combinaciÓn de factores que

shakers as being radicals, history is driven forward by people -- he would point back to jesus, to socrates thomas jefferson, john brown, wendell phillips. history moves forward by people who start off with an idea that seems deeply unpopular, but that is the next step for moral revolution. >> this is chris on the line. >> thank you for the conversation. it is a great surprise see on television tonight. i was wondering if you could comment on the relationship with industrial workers of the world. and with a general strike in seattle. >> he was a founding member of the iww that started in 1905. they were a clearly industrial union movement. it was juxtaposed against the american federation of labor which is more of a craft skills worker based union. the iww was a movement among the working class of people. in its size, it is not as nationalistic. it sought to work with workers in other countries. spain, france, italy, and it is a part of -- it never came to be, but they saw themselves as part of the workers' movement with fighters fighting worldwide in not just in the united states. it was e

socrates blows that out of water. that is ridiculous. if not that than what? that question is asked in almost all the great religions. if you go back to the origins of hindu philosophy they start with your life is a debt to the gods. we repay for that sacrifice. but that is not true at all. you also odette your parents which you repaid by becoming a parent. you repay the sages by becoming a sage. you repaid by realizing there isn't a debt. it raises the question how can you owe something to the cosmos? that would mean the cosmos is a partner which is absurd. with absurdity you realize there's no debt. in the bible face start with morality is that but it is actually forgiving debts. through redemption and canceling debt. there's a great tradition of debt cancellation that is truly divine. that ambivalence for buddhist examples as well is constant and reflected in this strange gil morales we were people to act like a friend of mine at st. you can't cancel their debts. that is absurd. the idea that debt and morality is the same thing. look at world history ended