so we have had the eclectic gas and socrates in the city gets its name from socrates. i am greek so i can pretend anything is not worth living the only unexamined life is not worth living. it you are my friend into a plate i will call you out that we realize said york city people tend to avoid the subjects like god or whatever makes you squirm what is the nature of reality those questions that people don't get into. so everything is fair game that means all kinds of different guests and subjects we encourage you last year we did a bunch of us even san oxford in england because he said what we take it there? we have had a wonderful time over the years we had a speech data podium like s i think about cheers ago we decided i with the then i guess guest -- one wrote the book i was the speaker and i introduced myself. and get messed with my head so i decided not to do that this time but they have come up with another book so it is of question that we should all be thinking about it is something that we should be interested so my publisher viking has many representatives but

secondary is occasional bottle the floor who but then you go from a passive recipients to heed the socrates was saying you need dave pregnant questioner to say this will is not fertile domestic price of for this the. you just cannot machine-gun fire from the 21 year-old wife the they will learn. you need to ask the question. rethink secondary education. >> as you mentioned one of the a d is made me think about age of segregation and the value of having friends for much older with a more broader view of that familiarity. and his aide to segregation can have a detrimental effect. it just slows even born in the birth seat year then you have to experience life and the people of different ages. as our frontal lobe is forming and then you become aware of time to develop with them. with that narcissistic experience. to believe that every challenge of this second, my daughters are girls and they can be really painful. thinking that this might last forever than those that are 70 or 85. in with those places they traveled. it turns attitude go down the street and supposal de terminal but we need more

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>> so if if you want to put me in the same camp as socrates, i'm perfectly happy with that. again, i don't want to say there's anything fundamentally new here, right? i mean, a lot of these ideas have a long history. you know, when kyle originally did this work on the illusion of explanatory depth, he showed that people suffer from the illusion with regard to their understanding about how things work, right? mechanism, causal model. but they don't show it with respect to narratives or scripts or, you know, facts like state capitals. so it's a very specific kind of illusion, or it was in his hands. but the one domain in this which his student showed it also obtained is in logical justification. so people do apparently have the seasons that they can justify their beliefs to a greater extent than they can. [inaudible conversations] >> i think matt has a question. [inaudible conversations] >> there we go. >> so how do people know what competence you're asking about when you understand helium rain? if my uncle says, do you understand helium rain, i could maybe muddle through it.

it's just that the best learning is done through the socratic method. you can be the smartest liberal kid on a college campus and all you'll do is hearing professors saying things you already agree with. the edge of the knife gets sharp when it runs the friction against the stone. dead things go with the flow living things swim upstream. conservative kids who can keep their principles and wits about them through four years of a liberal arts college just come out knowing their arguments and the other side's arguments better. that's a huge advantage in terms of the quality of the kids that places like yaf helps put out there. sorry i'm drinking so much water. i smoked an enormous amount of pot before i got here. i get this crazy dry mouth. so anyway i get forgetful. normally, under normal circumstances, pre-orb, i would have just come here and, you know, let the red meat fly like the set of texas chain saw massacre, right? i get it. but we're sort of in a different moment, a difficult moment. these are sort of different times. you're going to get enough o

please do tell your friends about socrates in the city. we too read the book. if you don't want to read the book i don't care but at lease buy several copies if you don't mind. we believe it at that. god bless you and god bless america. [applause] [inaudible conversations]

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does that -- if you want' toe put me in the same camp as socrates, don't mind that. a lot of these idea have a long history. when kyle originally did this work on the illusion of death, he showed that people suffer from the illusions with regard to their understanding about how things work. right? mechanisms. but they don't show us with respect to narrative or script or facts like fake capitals so it's a very specific kind of illusion, or was in a sense. but the one domain in which his students showed it also obtains is in the domain of logical justification. so people do apparently have the send that they can justify their beliefs to a greater extent than they can. could -- >> the comments from your own knowledge -- >> i think has a question. >> how do people know what confidence you're asking about when you say do you under helium rain? if my uncle says do you understand helium rain? i would think, yeah, could probably muddle through a conversation, or a world that has helium rain, but if a student asks, do you understand helium rain, won't go there if my broker as

open the doors to library and shake the trees of nature and fruit and demand more learning with socrates was learninsaying was that he sayine soil is not fertile unless the soil is crying out for the sea. you cannot machine gun, firehose and a 19 or 21-year-old and think they're going to learn. you need them to be asking questions. i want to rethink secondary education on a plural form of higher education model, not going in the opposite direction. >> guest: you mention grade 13 and i'm reminded of the idea of age segregation. and how school systems are promoting that. i think about my own personal life and the value of having friends were much older than me so i can gain a broader view of the world and gave more familiarity with what's coming ahead of my life. you talk about this age segregation can have a detrimental effect on how the education system maybe needs to take a closer look at that. can you explain that? >> it's nothing in human history. across cultures and time. to have most of year. cohort be people who are born in your same birth year. and we segregate you in a school whe

he's having a socratic dialogue with himself, looking at the lights of new york city, really taking hisks in behind him. he doesn't see her. she hesitates because she knows he likes "his time." she decides to come up and put a soft hand on his shoulder. as she does, he snaps a second. she says, i'm sorry. he says, no, i'm sorry. i'm not pushing you away. i'm pulling me closer to myself. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) this guy! it's true, great stuff. >> stephen: thank you very much. that's a real honor. well, here's the thing, we like to do bits with our guests sometimes. and we wrote something for you. we wrote this thing called "sexy southern lawyers" because, you know, "time to kill," "lincoln lawyer," "amistad," if you want to get down to it. sexy southern lawyer. so we were going to do, i'm sexy southern lawyer, and you are sexy southern lawyer, and we'll try to have a sexy southern lawyer-off for a judge. >> that would be good. >> stephen: right, but then you said, instead, could we do a scene about two guys who work in a newspaper? and i didn't even remember the damn scene.

we learned about the classics and we learned what happened to socrates. he was an early campus controversial if you will. he had a student who he was teaching. and he answered questions from some students. and the way he answered those questions about the deities of the city, the gods, do you recognize these gods? that troubled the elders, and they decide that he needed to be put on trial for his her ret -- heretical views. and ultimately sentenced to death for not believing in the gods of the city and the other sin of teaching the students about some other gods and some other beliefs, the beliefs and challenge and rhetoric and free exchange of ideas. well, so that's what happened to him. but today, it's actually the professors at our universities who are putting free speech to death. they're the ones who are imposing their viewpoint on the students. and they're the ones who are stifling that very speech and that very american tradition of democracy out of existence. and those folks have tenure. and they've been there longer than you. and they're waging a

a wonderful line in the federalist, where he says if every athenian citizen had been a socrates, everythingassembly would still have been a mob, right? and so, and he was really brutally realistic about this. for him, the question was in what way can citizens have very different interests and commitment and capacity participate meaningfully in government. some of it has to do with the information available. i don't have any big solution that any of this has addressed. we are old media. your newer media than we are. the basic media reality is defined by google and by facebook. our ceo, counterpart robert thompson had this piece in our paper the other day that was really pretty tough on google and facebook instead this is a duopoly that is not only ruining their businesses, ruining quality press, but more than nhl really responsible for the prominent effective fake news because they throw things out indiscriminately and has a business model that depends on not discriminating on kinds of news. they feel this in some way. they started these different experiment of fact checking and whatnot, but

for me, it was interesting that a group in my fifth period class, a lead up to the socratic seminar for the rest of the class, at the end of the school year brought this back as a subject of populism. what is the grand narrative of presidency using populist narrative and how that plays out in the inauguration, as well as the other campaign rhetoric? as them, it is interesting, much as there were some differences in how they interpreted the day, they certainly were able to see it in a larger historical context, which is what we are looking for. steve: and the context of your courses on government. we have had polarizing times in america. before world war ii, and isolation movement, watergate, the impeachment of bill clinton. had to you deal with the current political climate in context to what we have seen in the 20th century? sushine: i think explaining to studen that what is different now is the ease of communication, and the fact that news travels so fast and broadly, that it feels like everything is happening everywhere and to you. and also a wide array of news sources, that you can

we had these fascinating sort of socratic dialogues on twitter. there was that one point where he talked to some local nbc reporter and she read him an excerpt from a column i had written for the l.a. times and he said, wait a second, i went to the best schools. i built this amazing business. i got this great brain. all of these things he likes to say. i am sure you never heard anything of this. and i have to take this from jonah goldberg, a guy who doesn't even know how to buy pants. i have a team of interns at aei working around the clock trying to figure out what that means. because, look, if i were on a job interview, i wouldn't lead with my pants buying skills. i wouldn't say i am the greatest pants buyer in the world. but i know how. you know, my wife doesn't get calls a couple of times a month from the floor manager at home depot saying, sorry, mrs. goldberg, but your husband is in the power tool section trying to buy pants again. so just want to get that out there. but here is sort of the larger point. william rusher who was for 30 years t

his two favorite philosophers were socrates and pain because he quoted them often. he cited them often. i don't want to get too much in the weeds but the 1980 campaign he uses a curious phrase, we all say man and god. reagan says man with god. this is an interesting intellectualization how he is able, a third way, synthesis of pain, the flower of the enlightenment and the enlightenment teaches that man is at the center of the universe and a speech at harvard in 1979 even as a rating, tearing it apart, hates the whole concept, how can reagan, these two philosophers both be favored to ronald reagan? it is because reagan synthesizes the two and believe man is a spiritual being and therefore this man is at the center of the universe it is because god wanted him there, god is in that man so there's no contradiction in reagan's mind. he finds a third way, synthesizes the two positions. in 1975 just weeks before he was going to take on gerald ford in the republican primaries, to cbs, to mike wallace, a good friend of nancy reagan, they grew up together in chicago, went to

plato, socrates, aristotle. democracy. architecture emthe parthenon. you can find a better building in california? excuse me. this is -- so, from sparta, people looking and saying these people are totally out of control. every day they get up and they end vent crazy new things that don't seem very comfortable to us. sparta was a marshal society, essentially -- imagine seal team six is your society. then you grow kid up and they have to -- the males live in barrackstheir 25. can't get married until their 30, all the time marching around and getting ready to fight people and they were very good at it. the idea of drama and history and philosophy and architecture and a navy, this all seemed very, very threatening to the spartans, and so they said to the spartans, look, they're way thing are the would they were supposed to be. so after the war if the the persians the ateenans wanted to build back -- athennans wanted to build their wall to protect them from the spartans. the spartans said you can't have the wall because we need to discipline you. we need be

we have an artificially intelligent artist if he could explain itself socrates or have to do better to be true artificial intelligence? now, were it not for peer pervasive discussion about the sing alert, the point at which artificial intelligence exceeds users to become incomprehendible to us, some liken us to chim pan seize in relationship to this coming a.i., virus in relationship to the coming a.i., way beyond it. we might think this kind of true artificial intelligence that wallace is talking about could edokayed and enhance human intelligence. we would know we were being genuine i educate if this true a.i. could explain itself to us, could give an account of the fruits of its be intelligence. perhaps we could have a dialogue with true artificial intelligence could hold a conversation with a human being that would be like a conversation between two human beings. contrary to appearances, then, the ghost of turing could still unhaunt our search for true artificial intelligence machines that go beyond. if conversations with this machine suggested a self-understanding or indeed an obl

admit to the literature kind of a collection of exemplary individuals from achilles and odysseus to socrates, to moses, to huck finn. you go through, your present readings but you put the alternatives before then. and you raise, then you proceed not so much to know about thesebooks from the outside . you use these books to think with, the questions that you legitimate from the students because you know in the way they really are interested. >> they just left home. they're joining the big old world. >> filled with all kinds of nonsense and opinions that they earned. superficial and skimpy but if you treat them as if they really care about the things that ought to care about, and you ask them questions that you suspect they would like to have and you discuss the books in the spirit in which you would like those questions pursued. then you're treating them not so much as excuse me, as heirs of a tradition but you're treating them in the spirit in which hitz spoke in which you are guessing that as a young adult, with a lifetime before then and probably not very far away from the big questions ab

if you could explain a thought to socrates says badly as the eye and doesn't platonic dialogue of the same name. or would it have to do better to be true artificial intelligence? now what were it not for pervasive discussion in singularity, and is so far exceeds ours as to become incomprehensible to us. some liken man's two chimpanzees and relationship to this coming a.i. virus in relation to the coming a.i. way beyond us. you might think that this kind of true artificial intelligence that wallace is talking about could educate and enhance human intelligence. we would know that we were being genuinely educated if it's true i could explain it tells to us, could give an account of the fruits of its intelligence. perhaps we should say that we could have a dialogue with true artificial intelligence and could hold a conversation with a human being that would be like a conversation between two human beings. contrary to appearances then, the ghost could still haunt our search for true artificial intelligence machines that go beyond our native systems. but the ghost of touring is also the gho

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