a made a gate so they can walk through. , sohe fence is not working your solution is to build another fence? >> no, you have to look at it in perspective. they cannot put things against it. went it is him -- when it is monitored, it works. when you look at the san diego border, we pretty much controlled that. we have good monitoring, we do not have much coverage coming across. we have not done everywhere else. we are saying it is too hard. -- it is not just dancing. , it isood intelligence utilizing a multipronged approach. control our we can borders. we have chosen not to. measure would be your when determining when the border is secured him a some time -- secured, some concrete numbers? congress would make that decision every year. are we maintaining the border? have we done what we need to do? i do not want to talk about the rest of it until we do that. people in this country are not worth about immigration, ao world about it legal immigration. they are worried that once we get some type of bill that allows any connection to those who, in illegally any halfway to citizenship, you w