, because sojourner truth basically said, "take those rights." >> exactly. >> hinojosa: "take them." >> "if they want more rights than what they got, why don't they just take them and not be talking about it," she said. >> hinojosa: well, so what do you think about that in this moment in history? are we... where are we in terms of the talking and the taking of women's rights and... >> well, i think that a lot of the legal barriers have been broken, and there is a perception even among women that "all i have to do is find a way personally to make that journey." that's really a misperception of the reality, because an individual struggle is far less powerful, far less successful, than a collective. and i think that's the message that sojourner truth was trying to offer the people of that... or the women of that day, white women primarily. and she was an ex-slave, and she just simply could not understand why they continued to talk about it, because in their numbers they had the power to make change. and that's also where we are today. in women's numbers, we have the power to make chan

bill to have a statue of rosa parks in the capitol as we try to put more diverse, women there, sojourner truth, et cetera. today we're announcing -- or not announcing, dedicating the statue was the same day the supreme court was hearing the arguments on the voting rights act. and our colleagues saw no inconsistency on them associating themselves with the courage of rosa parks and yet disassociating themselves with their responsibility to pass the voting rights act. you referenced dr. king. dr. king said it the best and the simplest -- the ballot, the ballot, the ballot, legislation, legislation, legislation, your life, your life, your life. we have to show people the connection between voting and their lives, and that's what this platform will do. however, and i don't know how these people, some of our colleagues are deeply religious people, and i respect that, but i don't know how when they die and go to heaven, they see our founders, they go up and say, i did everything i could to block people from voting. i did everything i could. how unpatriotic is that? but we don't agonize, we organize,