yes, it travels with sarah sokol, who is the designer of the hat and the hat is heavy >> seth: and howad been at another awards show where billie eilish was in front of me, and she was wearing this veil over her gucci situation. and i said, "oh, that's cute, that's fun," but i would never cover my face because i have spent too long getting people to see my face. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> and my stylist at the time, sam ratelle, said, "well, what if we could open and close it? would you be interested? and that's how it came about and that's why we did it [ laughter ] >> seth: your -- your show "pose," sadly, was one of the many shows that had to halt production due to the coronavirus. >> yeah. >> seth: you were actually slated to direct an episode this year >> yes >> seth: was that something you were excited about >> yeah, i am totally, you know, i am, as i say, very often trying to be the head bitch in charge [ laughter ] so this means i am writing a lot. i have been directing a lot in the theater. i have been writing in the theater. so i am trying to move that over into my film a