hillary clinton, jennifer granholm and susan rice. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: you are so funny. bill press for -- we'll put you for secretary of labor. why don't we do that. >> bill: all right. hilda sol another one. here's what's sad about this is i think she deserved to be secretary of state. i think she would make a great secretary of state. and i hate to see her drummed out of there by john mccain and lindsey graham on false charges, number one. and number two, i know everybody says you just have to pick your battles, you know. a lot of people were telling the president, i'm sure, yeah, she would be great but you can't afford to make this your first fight of this -- the end of this year, the beginning of the next year. you've got -- you can't waste your political capital on this. i'm sorry the president decided not to do it. i think he should have fought right down to the finish line with susan rice. i would rather go down in flames fighting for susan rice than give in to john mccain and lindsey graham. >> jennifer: you know, i know you have to pick your battles. i've been in that situation before. i know he's battling over the cliff. we'll talk about that in a second. but it is a