companies, including firms like solendra and enron. john you say it's time to slay this dragon. >> i want to abolish this bank as soon as humanly possible. why is it that taxpayers are on the hook to subsidize u.s. corporation sales to foreign entities. the argument of it is it's profitable these loans make economic sense. that's all the more reason to abolish it if these loans would occur without the bank abolish it so these loans can take place in the private-sector. >> rick, there's a convergence if you will between the left and right against corporate welfare. we have people like ralph nader and rand paul getting together against this thing. aren't you >> no. actually i'm not. at the same time you have people like elizabeth warren and chamber of commerce supporting it. you have convergence of left and right on both sides of the issue. >> elizabeth warren has spoken on both sides but now she's a senator she's in favor of it. >> i'm no fan of corporate welfare. but in this case this is helping american businesses to get their product