four solstickes. [speaker not understood], march and september are pretty similar. the red indicates the new shadows created by the addition which it's obvious that they do have impact on the window system to the north. now, i wanted to point out particularly during the summer months there's a fair built of light being blocked for that neighbor to the north and all of his windows essentially. the winter months, not so much. actually, very little impact at all which one might argue makes -- when they do have sunlight available to be that much more important. what's not represented clearly in these documents is the impact of the light on pam and darren's property. >> sir, your time is up. >>> thank you. >> thank you. >>> patricia vaughan, marina cal hal owe neighborses and merchants. i'm supporting the d-r requestors for several reasons. number one, this is basically an expansion into the side yard, what looks like to be an elegant glamorous set of steps. there is enough room in the existing building that you do not have to go out. this is the major portion of the exp