to the soviet union, even when they imprisoned their own citizens in the gulags, like alexander solzhenitsyn. it seemed like no one was willing to speak up to how america had a critical role to play in trying to stem the advance of communism. reagan spoke up. craig: reagan really, from the time of containment and mutual cooperation, he is the first one really to break with the bipartisan precedent of everyone going forward from truman right up until ford. the soviet union is a thing of permanence, the berlin wall is a thing of permanence. we have to find a way to coexist. he says, we will transcend them. this is terrifying to the establishment. frank: i think that becomes evident in the 1980 campaign. he was able to realize the scenario whereby the soviet union would not be permanent, where we could utilize a combination of diplomatic and especially economic pressure to force them into places where they could not go, because they could not compete with us economically. therefore, reagan envisioned that, plus, i think, a strong ideological appeal to freedom. he always believed individuals, no