that is not the case in somalia. i hesitate to call it a government there in somalia. they are trying very hard to deal with citizens in carrying out these attacks, but they cannot do it. you need governments to deal with piracy. you need international collaboration, which we have to a great extent in the international community to deal with piracy as a phenomenon. but countries in the region are not as strong as we would like denn to be in terms of dealing with regional aspects of the problem. -- we would like them to be in terms of dealing with regional aspects of he problem. it is very difficult to tell who is doing what in the maritime environment. there is so much traffic. it is very hard to get a line on who the legitimate fishermen are. it is a complicated issue. host: he said in a web chat last year about the difficulty -- you said in a web chat last year about the difficulty with dealing in countries like somalia. "international investors are not likely to invest in a country with criminal gangs that threaten their investment, making somalia less attractive as

ifill: then, as two new jersey men are accused of plotting violence with suspected terrorists in somalia, we look at home-grown conspiracy. >> this is a very real danger. it's one of the department of justice and our law enforcement partners take very seriously. >> brown: ray suarez gets a mostly "good news" update about cancer treatments, unveiled at a meeting of specialists in chicago. >> ifill: fred de sam lazaro reports on a housing program in kenya, helping the very poor escape nairobi's slums. >> to houses like that, that are cheerful and airy with bathrooms. to me it was almost a sign of you just got to keep going. >> brown: and judy woodruff previews tomorrow's coast-to- coast primary contests with amy walter of "hotline" and dan balz of the "washington post." >> ifill: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> will your savings be enough to fund your retirement? what will happen if your spouse outlives you by many years? what will happen if you outlive your savings? pacific life knows that tomorrow's questions require pla

there is certainly a terrorist safe haven in somalia and in terms of stability, it is a country thats certainly if not a field state is a borderline phill state and in fact there are -- there are camps where terrorists are trained in somalia that we all need to be concerned about. so, and concerned about the fact that somalia continues to fester to use your word in a very negative way, a government that is struggling to control under assault from organizations that are terrorist based and continue to be the home for the piracy network clearly which is a challenge in that part of the world. so i am extremely concerned about that and its continued ability to continue to grow in the future. the other place where there is long term potential is number africa where al qaeda has a very strong link as well. while we focus on afghanistan and pakistan which is where the al qaeda leadership presides, it is the network which is still extremely dangerous and intent on executing the kind of potential attacks that result in detroit on christmas and recently in times square. >> mr. psychiatry and e

and we recognize that a solution to piracy in somalia is in fact an effective government on land in somalia. after the extraordinary work of johnny carson and others, you will hear from this afternoon, we're working hard on the future, and the very real likelihood that we will seek to merge into a new nation in july of next year, which won't need enormous international assistance to be able to govern itself. these are some of the challenges. johnny will go through a much more significant lists and the second. but there are success stories as well. not the least of which is the situation in liberia. liberia and, long a problem in africa, now becoming a significant part of the solution. just use one example of where the president is providing direct assistance and counsel next door as it tries to work is back to a civilian and constitutional rule. we have a succcssful engagement recently with that later, and then you've gone done playing a significant role in the passage of u.n. resolution 1929 last week, and so there are many news stories here as well. the man who has led this effort, someti

that is not the case in somalia. i hesitate to call it a government tre in somalia. they are trying very hard to deal with citizens in carrying out these attack, but they cannot do it. you need governments to deal with piracy. you need international collaboration, which we have to a great extent in the international communi to deal with piracy as a pnomenon. but countries in the region are not as strong as we would lik denn to be in terms of dealing with regional aspects of the problem. -- we would like them to be in terms of dealing with regional aspects ofhe problem. it is very difficult to tell who is doing what in the maritime environment. there is so much tffic. it is very hard to get a line on who the legitimate fishermen are. it is a complicated issue. ht: he said in a web chat last year about the difficulty -- you said in a web chat lastear about the difficulty with dealing in countries like somalia. "international investors are not likely to invest in a country with criminal gangs that threaten thr investment, making somalia less attractive as a place to inv

they are in yemen, somalia. we have invested tremendously in afghanistan, a very unstable, inhospitable place. just an example of the policing, we have spent over $6 billion in policing there and have literally nothing to show. we cannot find the trained people. we cannot find the weapons. we cannot find the ammunition. if we are going to build a country, it needs to be america. americans are hurting. we need to be investigating -- investing right here, not in afghanistan. >> i will not make that commitment not to vote. we are putting all of our eggs in one basket. we are making sure we are pursuing terrorists, wherever they are. if we leave, we are right back to september 11, a day where we lost over 3000 americans, and we have to be sure that we win back momentum. the afghani question is also about pakistan. the chief problem is from the taliban, and that group is in pakistan. we have to work across the borders. we have to make sure that we do not leave afghanistan a failed state, and we also have to pursue te

admiral mullen, somalia most americans cannot point out on the map however the suggested is becoming safe haven of al qaeda and other foreign fighters training ground cetera. are we going to get rid of them? >> chairman, the last couple of years i talk about concerns with respect to the growing safe havens and in fact an awful lot of focus on yemen and somalia specifically. and there is a al qaeda presence specifically in yen and right now which is very dangerous and growing and needs to continue to be addressed. there is certainly a terrorist safe haven in somalia and in terms of stability, it is a country that is certainly if not a field state is a borderline phill state and in fact there are -- there are camps where terrorists are trainee in somalia that we all need to be concerned about. so, and concerned about the fact that somalia continues to fester to use your word in a very negative way, a government that is struggling to cotrol under asult from organizations that are terrorist based and continue to be the home for the piracy network clearly which is a challenge in that part

to lead a greater effort to stabilize neighboring somalia, a country without an effective government for 19 years. kenya's leader speaking today with vice president joe biden who is in the east african nation the birthplace of president obama's father to press for political reforms in the country and discuss the situations in somalia and sudan. finally, japan's incoming new prime minister named his new cabinet today keeping core members in miss but adding several fresh faces including a former model. the prime minister hreblgt said he will honor an agreement with washington to move a key u.s. marine base to a less crowded part of okinawa an issue that led to the downfall of his predecessor. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> congressional hearings the senate judiciary committee holds a hearing on the decision producing exxon's liability in the 1989 exxon valdiz oil spill. that 10:00 a.m. eastern on pap 3. then we look at the activities of hezbollah in the middle east. among those testifying the coordinator for counterterrorism and former bush administration am

they thought they would get the same response they got in somalia in the early 1990's. they thought they would make as cut and run. they did not have an exit plan. i am not just speculating. i'm talking about with the al qaeda members told us starting in spring 2002 when we started capturing them early on. they told us they did not have an exit plan. they went left, that is into iran, which was shut down in 2003. then they went right into pakistan and made a mistake early on spending too much time in the settled areas or cities. eventually they set up their version of a safe haven in the tribal areas. looking back, there are these fabled stories at the 5:00 p.m. meetings with the director. there is some humor, i guess, in counterterrorism. they were for -- they were referred to as [inaudible] i remember hank crumpton, the later ambassador, a brilliant operator and a brilliant man conducting many of the meetings. the fight was still on than in winter 2002 talking about to rain. -- talking about terrain. we were talking about the threat matrix. you think of how far we hav

he was born in 1984 in somalia. then, at that time, a peaceful land of great beauty, promise, and resources. now, however, somalia s overwhelmed by famine, war, and violence. leave nothing person unaffected. in 1992, his father, a religious leader in moe gandhi shoe, a -- in mo gandhi shoe -- in mogadishu, the capital, was shot. he lived the life of a know mad. he was afraid that like his father he would be killed by a rival tribe he fled across the somalia-kenya border into kenya. thanks to the generosity of the united nations high commissioner for refugee, he was provided with food and assistance for 2 1/2 years there. fortunately, while he was in nairobi, he was introduced to a refugee coordinator at the united states embassy who along with two other citizens helped him move to the united states. an example of success, he graduated from high school in 2004 and graduated from the university in may 20, 10, with a degree in american studies. with his education, he intends to make a difference in the lives of those l

they thought they would get the same response they got in somalia in the early 1990's. they thought they would make as cut and run. they did not have an exit plan. i am not just speculating. i'm talking about with the al qaeda members told us starting in spring 2002 when we started capturing them early on. they told us they did not have an exit plan. they went left, that is into iran, which was shut down in 2003. then they went right into pakistan and made a mistake early on spending too much time in the settled areas or cities. eventually they set up their version of a safe haven in the tribal areas. looking back, there are these fabled stories at the 5:00 p.m. meetings with the director. there is some humor, i guess, in counterterrorism. they were for -- they were referred to as [inaudible] i remember hank crumpton, the later ambassador, a brilliant operator and a brilliant man conducting many of the meetings. the fight was still on than in winter 2002 talking about to rain. -- talking about terrain. we were talking about the threat matrix. you think of how far we hav

we also have to pursue terrorists in somalia, in yemen, other parts of the world where they are. the efforts in afghanistan are clearly not exclusive, and i want to make sure we protect the national security of this country, make sure. my experience here is colored by the fact that i landed in iraq at the peak of the search. i saw counterinsurgency work. in afghanistan, they found mineral deposits that could help drive the economy forward. >> thank you. rebuttal? all right, cal cunningham, the oil pollution act of 1990 passed shortly after the exxon valdez spill. it limit corporate liability to $75 million for economic damages. in north carolina, state lawmakers are considering lifting that cap. as a federal lawmaker, there is discussion of this. would you lift the cap? why or why not? >> yes. there should not be a liability cap. if bp caused the pollution, caused the damage, it should pay for. i think we will hear tonight the president talking about setting up an escrow fund that would be funded by bp. it should be administered by a third party, so that bp does not control who i

and the failure of institutions in distant states, as we have seen from somalia to afghanistan, is adirect threat to our own people. so a strong development policy must be a pillar of our national security. enter national development reflects our moral values -- international development reflects our moral values. pour and unstable countries make unreliable trading partners and weak markets for american goods and services. and we cannot desert global leadership while neglecting hunger, disease, and human misery. some democrats have made internationally agreed to develop goals the prime focus of our foreign policy. president obama has announced major new initiatives on food security and global health. and his administration is working to strengthen them through partnerships with other donors in the private sector. data-driven analysis of the strong standards of accountability. we're working with world body's to strengthen international norms against corruption, so that foreign aid reaches the people it was intended for and is not squandered by unaccountable regimes. and we're acting o

there are areas where they are quite ssrong such as in yemen and somalia. that does not negate the need to do what is possible to deliver a basic level of security in+ afghanistan. the country cannot once again become home to al qaeda. doing that at the same time as working with the pakistan government can actually help to stabilize the region, from which to denounce of terrorism have come. -- from which huge amounts of terrorism have come. i'm happy to announce your ideas -- to discuss our ideas.+ this must be given time to work. >> sandra osborn. >> will the prime minister be mindful of the need to advise on human rights? not be oppression of women? >> i am grateful for the honorable lady's question. i think some progress has been made. when i say we're not going to or brilliant society, it does not mean that does not matter. they do. for instance, the recent peace meeting was 20% more -prepresentatives who were wome. president karzai and the britiih press -- all the questions from the afggan press corps for the women. i thouuht that was a sign in and %++

they are in somalia, they are in yemen, and when we concentrate on afghanistan, we have lost sight of some of that. we have invested tremendously in afghanistan, an instance -- and this -- an inhospitable place. we spent $600 million in policing this and have literally nothing to show. we cannot find to train people ammunition.ons in the with that long-range presence, we cannot build that country. we need to rebuild america and invest right here, not in afghanistan. >> mr. cunningham. >> we are not putting all our eggs in one basket. we are making sure that we're pursuing terrorists wherever they are. we cannot leave afghanistan a failed state. if we do, we're right back to where we were prior to september 11, a day when we lost nearly 3000 americans. we have to make sure that we're successful air, that we win back the momentum, transition security afghani forces. the afghani question is not just about afghanistan, but also about pakistan. the chief challenged in afghanistan is from the taliban, and in pakistan. we have to work across the border and make sure that we do not leave afgh

all these countries thaa we go into, somalia, yemen, sudan, these countries have the most to lose because they will be the first countries that will be overthrown. i would appreciate an answer. it is nine years after the attacks of 9/11. guest: thank you. you are very prospect -- perceptive. the financing simply does not make sense. when i visited qatar, dubai, uae -- and i represent hilton head island -- i tell these people that they look like hilton head island on steroids. these people want to live in the 21st century. you are right. usama bin laden's first target was the royal family of saudi arabia. we should expect more from them and work to stop the financing of terrorism. what is frustrating, everywhere you go, you see islamic charities. the vast majority of these charities are working to alleviate poverty in the region, but some are fronts for terrorism. we must depend on our allies for their own self-interest, self preservation, they need to be working with us to uncover the level of terrorist financing. host: we are talking about the state of terrorism. let's listen to an excha

there were fewer consequences if i were living in somalia were watching soccer is not an option. the stakes in the outcome for today's discussion as great as the world cup is, are much greater. the future of afghanistan not only has great impact to the united states but most important to the afghan people. we are delighted today to have someone share his perspectives and thoughts as to where afghanistan is today, where it is going in the future. on fortunately, most of the news we hear in the united states is really positive. there was a short article in the "new york times" that there are $1 trillion of resources on tapped in lithium. afghanistan has its hands fall ull. they have a difficult set of issues but in afghanistan is a contact sport where politicians who stand up against the taliban and other forces find themselves in very tough positions. s quoting assassinations. last week, there was a 7-year- old who was hanged because his grandfather was trying to push back on the taliban in the region. obviously, this has some significant consequences for all of their folks. i jus

and the failure of institutions in distant states, as we have seen from somalia to afghanistan, is airect threat to our own people. so a strong development policy must be a pillar of our national security. enter national development reflects our moral values -- international development reflects our moral values. pour and unstable countries make unreliable trading partners and weak markets for american goods and services. and we cannot desert global leadership while neglecting hunger, disease, and human misery. some democrats have made internationally agreed to develop goals the prime focus of our foreign policy. president obama has announced major new initiatives on food security and global health. and his administration is working to strengthen them through partnerships with other donors in the private sector. data-driven analysis of the strong standards of accountability. we're working with world body's to strengthen international norms against corruption, so that foreign aid reaches the that foreign aid reaches the

two new jersey man caught going to somalia. the list goes on and on and you understand why people think this is a new phenomena but think over the last eight years to the numerous plots and investigations involving american citizens unfortunately. badei. the lockwana six. i think we tend to forget and the media plays them down so it's not a new phenomena. i think one of the things we have to worry about is that the narrative of the extremist. the narrative that says the u.s. is at war with islam and it's a muslims duty to defend fellow muslims and al qaida is the vanguard of that movement that heroic narrative that gives meaning to many people's lives is actually growing in appeal in the united states. that's something we hadn't seen that much. three factors. one, starting to see more clusters of individuals in the u.s. drawn to this. you look at the american so mali cases. numbers of individuals going to fight. drawn to the idea. second and third generation americans falling to play. you look at the north virginia five as a go

be glued to the t.b like many of my friends are, with your consequences that if i were living in somalia, were watching soccer is not an option. the stakes and the outcomes for today's discussion is great as the world cup is, are much greater. obviously, the future of afghanistan not only has great impact to the united states, but most importantly to the afghan pele. we are delighted today to have someone shared his perspectives and his pulse as to where afghanistan is today, where it going ithe future. most of the "newsweek see and hear in the united states is rarely positive -- most of the news we see and hear in the united states is rarely positive. there are reserves that are untapped, both copper and lithium, but obviously, afghanistanasts hands full in terms of challenges. politics anywhere is a contact sport. it is obviously a difficult set of issues, but i think in afghanistan is much more so, where increasingly politicians to stand up against the taliban and other forces find themselves in very tough positions, including assassinations. most of you read just last week the young

be glued to the t.b like many of my friends are, with your consequences that if i were living in somalia, were watching soccer is not an option. the stakes and the outcomes for today's discussion is great as the world cup is, are much greater. obviously, the future of afghanistan not only has great impact to the united states, but most importantly to the afghan people. we are delighted today to have someone shared his perspectives and his pulse as to where afghanistan is today, where it is going in the future. most of the "newsweek see and hear in the united states is rarely positive -- most of the news we see and hear in the united states is rarely positive. there are reserves that are untapped, both copper and lithium, but obviously, afghanistan has its hands full in terms of challenges. politics anywhere is a contact sport. it is obviously a difficult set of issues, but i think in afghanistan is much more so, where increasingly politicians to stand up against the taliban and other forces find themselves in very tough positions, including assassinations. most of you read just last week

american troops were arrested saturday before boarding flights on their way to joined a group in somaliathis looks at the star-ledger of newark reported that two men were arrested at jfk international airport before they could board separate flights to egypt and continue on this about. officials familiar with the details spoke on condition of anonymity. also, looking at the "miami herald." looking at the news from there. bp bosses on likely to face jail. well they can expect heavy fines from the oil spill, past catastrophes show that company officials rarely face criminal charges. they are following that story very closely as it relates to florida's shores. they have a photograph -- beach patrol workers bag tar balls a long casino beach in the florida panhandle. we will speak with a gentleman from the audubon society later in the program. what motivvtes you to vote in primaries or what does not motivate you? let's go to huntington beach, california, ron, independent line. caller: good morning. it is a very early over here. i am testing for a case of insomnia, and i am glad i did. i would

the terrorists we are fight are no long for the afghanistan only, they are operating in yemen, somalia, subsaharan africa an here in the just. the christmas day bomber was from nigeria. an increasing number of terror attacks are being plotted here on american soil. major hasan who killed 13 people at fort hood, texas, was born in virginia and an increasing number of extremists from around the world are being connected and motivated by the virtual afghanistan through the internet. we are fighting an enemy without borders and must have a strategy without borders. in a world of limited resources, the next question we need to ask is this -- how can we best spend our precious tax dollars to make americans saferest? unfortunately right now we are allocating most of our resources to jaff began stan, where at most only 50 to 100 al qaeda are operating, according to c.i.a. director leon panetta. every day we read a new report that the billions we are investing are flowing to drug lords, corrupt local official, and even the taliban. according to a recent eye-opening report by subcommittee chairm

as they attempted to board a flight to egypt on their way to somalia.ll, that's a good combination. and they were planning on joining a terrorist operation. we've got to get this right. our vast and open transportation system which is american in its nature are part of everybody's lives and in towns and small economies and they connect our cities to a wider world. it's what makes our transportation such a powerful tool for terrorists. we open ourselves to that nature and pay a price for it. it's not even really that hard, but it's going to have to be. and they are constantly looking for new ways to make a taxt to do things. they are single operators. they can be less sophisticated. they can do it before -- because they are mad at america and they are americans sometimes. wherever people are having trouble economically or in this country and people get mad and frustrated they want a way out and something to belong to so they can say it gives them identity and unfortunately terrorism is one of the ways in which they can do that and feel like they are stro

in recent years the border patrol has intercepted people from yemen, pakistan, iraq, somalia, people from most of the countries on our enemy watch list. those types of individuals who for whom we should be suspect are the ones who are being captured and cut and detained. the question is how many are not being captured and caught and detained? we have found discarded apparel, backpacks with old chinese passports that have been modified, that have been cut up, that had been reused. we are not really sure exactly why they were there and for what purpose they have, but we know that those types of individuals are coming across our southern border. please let me try to emphasize, the reason therr should be such concern is because of some of the kinds of people who are illegally entering this country who is sole purpose is not to find a job or join a family but whose sole purpose is to further the illegal drug trade, whose sole purpose is to further illegal human trafficking, and whose sole purpose could easily be for terroristic reasons. one of the ironies of our situation on the southern

men to extremist ideology, and the failure of institutions in distant states, as we have seen from somaliato afghanistan, is a direct threat to our own people, so a strong development policy must be a pillar of our national security. international development reflects our moral values and service our economic interests. for an unstable countries make unreliable trading partners and weak markets for american goods and services. and we cannot exert global leadership while neglecting hunger, disease, and human misery. so democrats have made internationally agreed development goals a prime focus of our foreign policy. president obama has announced major new initiatives on food security and global health, and his administration is working to strengthen them through partnerships with other donors and the private sector -- data- driven analysis and a strong standards for accountability from aid recipients. we're working with wild -- world body's to strengthen international norms against corruption said the foreign aid reaches the people it was intended for and is not squandered by unaccountable r

be glued to the t.b like many of my friends are, with your consequences that if i were living in somalia were watching soccer is not an option. the stakes and the outcomes for today's discussion is great as the world cup is, are much greater. obviously, the future of afghanistan not only has great impact to the united states, but most importantly to the afghan people. we are delighted today to have someone shared his perspectives and his pulse as to where afghanistan is today, where it is going in the future. most of the "newsweek see and hear in the united states is rarely positive -- most of the news we see and hear in the united states is rarely positive. there are reserves that are untapped, both copper and lithium, but obviously, afghanistan has its hands full in terms of challenges. politics anywhere is a contact sport. it is obviously a difficult set of issues, but i think in afghanistan is much more so, where increasingly politicians to stand up against the taliban and other forces find themselves in very tough positions, including assassinations. most of you read just last week