but somalia is trying. laura: turning to the transition process underway. donald trump and his team are working on filling those key posts. of course, everyone is waiting to see who they are. for more on what is going on behind closed doors, i spoke with peter emerson. he worked on the transitions of presidents carter and obama. peter emeron, you are living history. you are a veteran of transition teams. >> wounded veteran. laura: we have never seen anything like this transition. >> no, we have not. i think the danger of putting this in historical context, even way back in 1828 and the jackson transition, is that this is being played out around the world. it is really the apprentice on steroids. if anyone wants to understand how donald trump manages, makes decisions, it is an episode of "the apprentice." but it is operating all around the world. and creating great anxiety. laura: there are thousands of appointments to be made between now and january 20. how difficult is it to do that, even under normal circumstances? are really not thousands of appointments

. >> the country just west of somalia. where this photo was taken. they took 26 hostages. and became a developed criminal enterprise. >> the crew has been held for four and a half years. >> pirates boarded the ship and killed the captain. the rest of the 28 crew members spent the next year and a half as hostages. that is until the ship sank. that is when the pirates took them ashore in into the bush. two of the crew members died from illness. the rest lived in fear with little hope. months ago. got potential -- we are very excited -- >> zero bp is a real estate investor -- 1.5 billion. [ inaudible ] i will be moving more into philanthropy. >> our job is to assist in any way we can make the world a better place. >> it is solely through their work, this nonprofit has a special purpose. >> whole idea is to help humanity get rid of piracy >> somalia is a poor country. the goal is to help his people. >> i went in with the un. i remember asking a couple of young somalian men in prison for piracy -- what advice would they give? both of them said to the interpreter,. [ inaudible ]

so do you guys have a somalia problem in minnesota, sheriff, in your opinion?we have a radicalization problem that often leads to potential terrorism. so we don't have a somali problem. in fact, crime wise the somali community is probably one of the more law abiding communities. but when it comes to terrorism, you can't take many chances. and we do have a radicalization and terrorism issue. >> okay. have the somalis in the twin city area, have they assimilated or do they all live together and is it the way it was in africa? >> i think we're pretty good in terms of our assimilation. since 1992, thousands have come. i think that figure is probably 80,000, bill. for the most part there has been good assimilation. one of our goals is to help them assimilate because, frankly, success is the best vaccine against terrorism. but having said that there is always going to be a number of you youth that are falling between the cracks who they have an identity crisis. they are in poverty. they are not doing well socially. and those kids are very subject to being radicalized

the suspect shot and killed in the attack was 23-year-old was born in somalia and came with his mother and seven siblings from somalia, to pakistan in 200 2020 2007 and the suspect came to the united states june '14 and lived for a time in dallas and moved to ohio and was living their the campus. frankly, we have been given so many versions of this person's name that i am still no not -- every time we have it nailed down, it turns out that someone had a different version of it. until we know for sure, we'll hold off on using the name out of abundance of cautions here. the bare facts i gave you, they all seem to agree on that. what precisely is the right name, richard alias, we don't know. this person has a facebook page that we are looking at. we are looking to see if there is any message that indicates of this attack. some of it is in english and some is not. we are trying to figure it out. the main thing here is this was a suspect who came to the united states in 2014 was admitted as lawful permanent residence and a somali refugee. of the motive of the attack, it is still subject of

with six fleeing somalia and spending seven years in a refugee camp in pakistan. artan attended community college before transferring to ohio state this year. on his first day in august, artan was interviewed by the campus paper. he complained about what he believed was the media's negative portrayal of muslims. "i wanted to pray in the open," he was quoted as saying, "but i were saying in the media. if people look at me, a muslim praying, i don't know what they're going to think, what's going to happen." law enforcement is investigating the incident as a likely terror attack. they have searched the car the suspect was driving as well as an apartment complex. terrorist groups like al qaeda and isis have been encouraging supporters to carry out lone wolf attacks. earlier this month the f.b.i. renewed its warnings to police agencies across the country about the potential for home-grown violent extremist crowded venues. a law enforcement source told cbs news that artan recently posted on facebook that he was sick about the way muslims were being treated. norah, these

. >> o'donnell: a student from somalia targets pedestrians as others rush to safety. >> i heard a loud noise, like a running. >> o'donnell: also tonight... >> i'm charlie rose in havana on a day of remembrance and reflection on the fiery and controversial leader of the cuban revolution. >> o'donnell: a warning on cyber monday: thieves are targeting smartphone apps. >> we found that there were hundreds of fake apps -- hundreds. >> o'donnell: and... >> i panicked. i thought she was gone. >> o'donnell: tossed 30 feet survive? this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> o'donnell: good evening. scott is off tonight. i'm norah o'donnell. the assault was sudden and violent, and within moments the campus of ohio state university with 60,000 students was locked down. 11 people were hurt when a student from somalia attacked with a car and then a knife in what is being investigated as an a police officer shot and killed the suspect. dean reynolds has the latest, and he's in columbus. >> additional units to the area of 19th and college. we have several pedestrians struck by a vehicle. >>

since 2001, 90,000 refugees from somalia have been admitted to the united states, including nearly 9,000ast year. president obama earlier this year announced he wanted a 30% increase in the number of refugees coming into this country. 40,000 of those refugees from the near east and south asia. 35,000 from africa, including somalia. yet congress under speaker paul ryan has done nothing to address the issue. the ryan-led house of representatives passed a spending bill fully funding the refugee resettlement program with support from leading republicans. legislation backed by 49 republicans to put the funding has yet to even receive a vote. that's the responsibility of the speaker of the house. president trump says he will pause funding of refugees from countries that sponsor terrorism. bill gavin, great to have you back with us. as we witness this huge, huge immigration into this country propelled by the obama administration, aided and abetted by speaker ryan and many members of his conference and leadership. this looks like it's all been done with a political purpose in which they didn't m

when you have radicalized countries like somalia where isis and al qaeda are widely accepted, shouldn't there be extreme vetting as mr. trump has proposed? >> extreme vetting. this is part of the mandate that he feels that was put forward by the campaign by the movement that he created, greg. now we have another example of terrorism here on our soil. >> i want to know how he was vetted. that's important. the problem with self-radicalization, that happens after you are vetted. i think that extreme vetting isn't enough when your country's culture feeds this. this is a guy who came here supposedly, allegedly happy who immediately or in time saw himself as a victim of islamaphobia. that's a grievance identity structure that is created by the culture. they profile them in a paper. they fed a victim narrative. this guy felt he was wounded. you go to campus now and the campus hands you your wound. you are a victim. that causes you to say, i'm going to lash out. jake tapper retweeted this last night. it explains this. we are elevating victimology and turning people into terrorists. >> they hand

i'll take you to somalia, and you know something interesting about all the hate in somalia, they happeneak the same language and belong to the same tribe. >> so you put -- >> i don't think we can compare ourselves to somalia -- >> let's not overstate the case about what's going on. >> the swastika is not made up here, there are swastikas in circulation, there are hispanics being beaten up. >> of course there are. you get a country this size, you are going to have hateful people. >> our political parties are big trees and big trees attract squirrels. there were some up hillarys, there were quite a few of bernie's. and there are a whole bunch up trumps. we're all agreed the guy is lousy. the thing to do is -- what do you do about it, i mean? >> you denounce the lousy. >> i for one let him -- >> of course you do. and then you denounce the lousiness. >> i'm listening. >> what do you do? >> i'm list thing to your denunciation. >> what he's going to do spectacularly and quickly. >> let's remember the man will be the president of the united states. he will be, even if you don't like him, if yo

my family have all died in the war in somalia. i want someone to support me and help me have a future. >> the protesters were mainly afghani somali and sudanese men. also joinedeers amidst a heavy police presence. >> if they let them into the country they have to offer them a solution. they can't just leave them on the street. >> before it gets colder and starts snowing they must find a solution. paris authorities are planning to open a new reception center soon and hope to clear a sprawling camp under the metro overpass. protesters say it's a game of cat and mouse. >> it's a vicious circle. the police come and dismantle everything but after that the migrants have nowhere to go so they come back to the exact in place -- same place. >> some migrants claim the conditions in reception centers are worse than on the streets. the number of refugees staying in these tents has risen to about 3000 and could increase further with new arrivals from calais. >> business news now. stephen carroll joins me onset. starting with the value of sterl

he is from somalia. he is religious, angry how muslims were treated. do you think this is islamic terrorism? >> of course it is. it's a no-brainer, and tired of hearing people agonize over he may not be a terrorist because he didn't have an al qaeda or isis union card on his body. this is nonsense. as you laid it out, all the signs are there. this was a self-starter inspired by online or isis propaganda or other propaganda, but he went out to commit an act of terror and tried to kill as many young american college students as he could. fortunately, he didn't get to kill any, got himself killed, that's the good news. but we've got to stop beating around the bush on this. trish: look, people are so politically sensitive right now, as you know, the pc culture that's out there. where they don't want to be look as hard at some of these people coming into the country because of religious background, et cetera. they don't want to look at religious background or single them out because of that. colonel, do we need to? >> absolutely need to. not all muslims are

. >> luann knew abdul razak ali student and graduate of a community college and refugee from somalia that lived next door with his mom and brother and sisters and he would say hello. >> he would get diaper bags out of the car. >> luann can believe this is a the same man that created carnage and stabbing people. tomorrow is never promised. never promised and nobody knows what goes on. >> minutes baton rouge the osu attack, abdul razak ali artan posted a rant saying i can't take it anymore america and if you want us moslems to stop carrying out the lone wolf attacks make peace. >> it is unbelievable. >> i am shocked at what happened. i never expected him to across the street and says abdul razak ali artan was quiet but friendly customer. >> he never talked about whatever happened in different countries or what is going on with moslems. >> investigators are now trying to determine if abdul razak ali artan's attack was inspired by isis. jack is now worried what happened at osu will reflect on the moslem community. >> i am to be honest with you. to take us to. >> abdul razak ali artan was

suspect is from somalia. he arrived in 2014. we'll have more on him in a moment. >>> you tonight, i spoke with a young man, a student who saw the whole thing unfold and call 9 him, he was still shaken up. >> it was surreal. the car hitting everyone was in slow motion. as soon as he got it with a knife, and knew what was happening. i just ran. it was horrifying. >>> it's pandemonium or complexes >> it was controlled chaos. the government responded everyone bolted and maintain different directions. he didn't do any damage because how well everyone responded. it could have been a lot worse. >>> he says is going to take full advantage of the counseling the university offers students and faculty who may need it. >> the suspect, we're looking into his history. trick a first this was reported by active shooter. surely after we learned the only gun used was by police to take the attacker out. use the car and a knife to pull off his rampage. a clearer picture is forming into what set him off. >> not 48 hours after the happiest moment in

like somalia, like syria, yemen, iraq.gee who came into the united states into texas to houston texas, and he's the one who was arrested earlier this year for plotting to blow up a huge mall inspect houston, texas. listen. this is something we can figure out. this is something we should be on top of. it is insanity that the united states of america will not safeguard our people by bringing in people from terrorist-sponsored nations. >> speaking of safeguarding. judge napolitano wanted us to ask you about this. he said this wouldn't have happened -- guys like this would be stopped on a campus in a college in texas because he said students there, if they have prmts, can carry guns on campus. they can't do that in ohio. >> right. in our last legislative session we passed what's called open carry on campuses so that college kids can carrie guns on campus. it's not all college kids. you have to be i think 21 years old to be able to do it, but for one we've seen no incidents of anybody misusing a gun on campus, but as instances

out and stabbed dozens taken to the hospital for treatment, and the attacker was a student born in somalia and was a permanent u.s. resident. investigators are looking into every aspect of his life. >> one ohio state police officer saw the entire incident play out and opened fire killing the attacker. >> our officer was on scene in less than a minute and ended this situation in less than a minute. he engaged the suspect, and he eliminated t ohio state emergency officials alerted students about the situation initially saying there was an active shooter on campus. that prompted students to barricade themselves in classrooms with table and chairs blocking the doors, and all-clear was given nearly two hours later. >> apparently law enforcement officials, they say that the attacker was not known to the fbi and his neighbors claimed that he was always polite and that he attended daily services though, is whether this was, indeed, a terrorist attack. more from abc's brian ross. >> reporter: just three minutes before the first 911 call, the attacker posted this message on facebook, according to la

his family was from somalia. he was a first year student in ohio state university. that's what we do know of the not a u. they want freedom and prosperity, but they did come through the rhee he. i think the president was elected with a message saying, you know what? we need to refew the riff try to not have people coming into our country. i'm all for people who want to be work and port of the ift. part of that means religious tolerance, believing in the first amendment, religious liber liberty. vetting in extreme countries where there are ter federal -- for which we an adversarial if not an enemy type of relationship, we do have to be careful. >> would you go so far, senator, just to ban people from those countries until the terrorist threat ends? >> what i think we need to know is who is coming in and who is leaving. we know who is coming in. i don't know we're doing enough screening. we have no idea who is leaving. about 40% of people overstay their vvisas. we don't know who they are or where they are. yes, we do need control over who comes in and who leaves. the

and you'll be inspired by her journey from somalia to the state house. how this young lawmaker rose from refugee to representative. but first, the supreme court under a trump administration. i'm soledad o'brien. welcome to "matter of fact." ♪ soledad: justice ruth bader ginsburg said it plainly enough, when it comes to the supreme court, eight is not a good number. not for what's supposed to be a court of nine who have the final say over our laws and their enforcement. over time, that has included everything from courts to jails and could go back to our doctors' offices and bedrooms. it's worth remembering that there is still a number nine in waiting -- judge merrick garland, nominated by president obama eight months ago this week, and whose nomination has been sitting on hold ever since. so where does that leave us? president-elect trump produced a list during the campaign, but of course he can nominate anyone he wants, and a republican senate is likely to confirm. legal scholar jonathan turley is a law professor at george washington university law scho

he was born in somalia. came to the united states in 2014

injured and people panic throughout the campus from suspect identified as abdul artan the city is somalia into the country as a refugee before being granted residency status was a student at ohio state use to car as a weapon, the evacuated due to a fire alarm, then the car, slammed into a they say he began stabbing people with a butcher knife for a campus officer shot and kille him the campus put on to lock down for about 90 minutes >> speaking to the confusing first new orleans that lets people stunned, people are freaking out. a car driving through a crowd o people. a first survey thought that the guy had lost control and it was accidental, then he was trying to hit what was in front of him. i saw one guy who was flipped over. >> there was someone, who was in the way and i threw him out of

living in the u-s.he came to america from somalia -- a known hotbed for islamic terror activity. during this year's presidential campaign, immigration and terror threats became a major topic.in light of yesterday's attack, lawmakers are again taking sides over new restrictions on refugees from countries like somalia. "im hopeful and optimistic that the new administration priority keeping this country safe. and protecting us.. :31 "we're a country of 320,000,000 now. and we need to do it right. and we need to pull together to do it right. not accuse each other of everything everytime there is an incident."president-elect trump previously recommended halting all immigration from areas where terrorists operate. but critics say that's unfair to the millions of refugees trying to escape the same terrorists targeting america. like in ohio--a number of terror did not include bombs or guns. it's a tactic that isis and other terror groups have promoted.in october 2014, an isis supporter killed a canadian soldier in a hit and run.then in january 2015, a man carrying an isis flag attempted

but they kept captain phillips at gunpoint, demanding safe passage to somalia, where they could hold ransom. >> we thought we thought of everything, how to rescue people. but no one ever thought of a fully encompassed lifeboat being towed by a navy cruiser. >> how long from the time at the tea party that the pager went off did you have to get to base? >> we had a full head count in the indian ocean, everyone accounted for, 15 hours and 46 minutes after the page. >> the seals flew to the indian ocean in a c-17 transport plane. once on sight, the back of the c-17 opened, and they dropped their boats. >> we have the capability of putting boats out of a plane into the water. then we jump behind it. we find the boat, we get in the boat, and then we drive the boat somewhere. >> then, one after another, dozens of seals parachuted from the plane to the ocean below, including one support staffer who had never jumped from a plane before. >> regardless of the wars we were fighting, we were always training back home on the hostage rescue at sea, trying to maintain our heritage of being proficien

living in the u-s.he came to america from somalia -- a known hotbed for islamic terror activity.during this year's presidential campaign, immigration and terror threats became a major topic.in light of monday's attack, lawmakers are again taking sides over new restrictions on refugees from countries like somalia. "im hopeful and optimistic that the new administration will put as a far higher priority keeping this country safe. and protecting us.. :31"we're a country of 320,000,000 now. and we need to do it right. and we need to pull together to do it right. not accuse each other of everything everytime there is an incident."president-elect trump previously recommended halting all immigration from but critics say that's unfair to the millions of refugees trying to escape the same terrorists targeting america. efforts are now moving forward to memorialize the resilience of a cedar rapids ?neighborhood. the west side rising memorial has received a 75 thousand dollar grant from the hall- perrine foundation.it's a matching grant so another 75 thousand dollars in private donations is needed

. >> a student from somalia targets pedestrians as others rush to safety. >> i heard a loud noise like a crash and just saw people running. >> also tonight. a day of remembrance and reflection on the fiery and controversial leader of the cuban revolution. >>> a warning on cyber monday. thieves are targeting smartphone apps. >> we found hundreds of fake apps, hundreds. >> and -- >> i panicked. i thought she was gone. >> tossed 30 feet into a drainage ditch. how did this 8-month-old survive? >> announcer: this is the cbs "overnight news." >>> the assault was sudden and violent. and within moments the campus of ohio state university was 60,000 students was locked down. 11 people were hurt when a student from somalia attacked with a car and then a knife. in what is being investigated as an act of terror. a police officer shot and killed the suspect. dean reynold is in columbus. >> reporter: additional units to the area of 19th and college. we have several pedestrians struck by a vehicle. >> reporter: the time on the ohio state campus was 9:52 a.m. and a clutch of students and teachers asse

[ inaudible question ] >> -- he was originally in somalia but wasn't he in pakistan for years?s mentioned there was a refugee program? >> to repeat the question she was asking how mr. artan arrived in the united states, what program he came into. he was a somali refugee here now. he did come here from pakistan is where he arrived. we can't get into further background of the immigration to the united states. >> is this under the same refugee program -- >> i can't answer questions about the immigration program. that's not what we are involved in. >> at this point, do you have any direct evidence of connections with isis? had he contacted anyone? anyone from isis contacted artan? or is it just that he was inspired? >> as i previously stated, all we know at this point is we believe he may have been inspired by anwar al-awlaki and isis or isil. our investigation will determine that. it's too soon to draw conclusions. >> because of other findings also in the other devices? >> we are looking at facebook posts and trying to determine the authentication. that's one thing that leads us t

he is a refugee from somalia, his neighbors say that he was always very kind.r service at a local mosque but fbi is now reaching out, to his family, his friend, to try to get a better eye tea of what may have caused him to have this happen, yesterday, if there was anything that caused him to break or snap, anything along those lines. now, you mentioned, 11 people were injured, in this attack. one critically injured. they have been at the hospital, they are hoping to get an update on their status later this morning and, of course, students here at ohio state, returned to campus again for campus classes today. >> we are looking at video, you had a prayer vigil last night on campus. what was that like. do people feel comfortable going back to classes today? very soon. >> reporter: last night students were in shock. this is what you see on tv but never expect it to happen where you are. for them, right now across from where this attack happened is dorms. this is where students live. some could hear gunshots from their dorm apartment. this is all unsettling. that is

investigators are looking into the life of the somalia-born student who went on the attack. we >> reporter: good morning. the crime scene takes us, but the active investigation continues at ohio state university. local and federal authorities believe the suspect acted alone, but they are working to figure out if his motive was terror related. confusion and chaos on the campus of ohio state university. >> fire department, this is osu. we have a vehicle that struck several pedestrians. >> reporter: monday morning, a into several people near the school's engineering building, got out with a knife, and started slashing. >> don't go to campus, there's an active shooter. >> reporter: this officer with two years on the force, opened fire killing the suspect. >> the cop yelled, he charged the cop, and the cop was forced to shoot him. >> reporter: there was no active shooter and the terrifying theme sparked panic. many barricading themselves in tweeted, active shooter, run, hide, fight. >> i ran into a bathroom, lucki luckily, just a single stall, and i was able to lock myself in the