if we match it up, it't's prison time for somomeone. richard: it's hard to think of any other industry where there's an environmental crime that's so prevalent, so common. on ships, there's often a culture that not anything that i could possibly do would injure the ocean. but we know that it does. john: oil is widely distributed in the environment. but in the mid-water, in the center of an ocean, you could expect the chemicals to be as low or perhaps lower than almost any other place on earth. so what's happening in this area? and this we are very interested in determining. if ships, for example, are passing over the center o of the north atlanc and should happen to discharge oil l of some kind, some of it could fall through the mid-water. so one could ask, do you fish in this mid-water regionon? can you tellll me if you've been exexposed? and lo ad behold, most of them we looked at showed us a change that would suggest they had been exposed to some chemical. so now the question is, can t there be bad effects as a result of the exposure