i want to show you a section of the dissent from sonia sotomayor. she says, "thtractive lesson of the majorityon is what is mine is mine and what is yours is yours. the lesson of public accommodations laws is altogether different. it is that in a free and democratic society, there can be nol task. and that must be truehe public market. the promise of freedom is empty if the government's powerless to ensure that a dollar in the hands of one person will purchase the same thing in the dollar of the hands of another." guest: justice sotomayor is taking us to the issue of tolerance. the battle between the majority and the dissent is the meeting of tolerance. sotomayor position is that a tolerant society is one that allows euro -- or home, church, synagogue to enter into speech, but if you offer a business, a restaurant, hotel, you have got to abide by the rules of the road that includes access to all members of society on an equal basis. those are two different understandings of tolerance. gorsuch says tolerance means you have got to allow business peopl

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response to recent reports of potential ethics violations involving justices and samuel alito and sonia sotomayorshe spoke at a conference in portland, oregon. [applause] >> thank you, judge simon. thank you, everyone. welcome, thank you for being here, justice kagan. it's an honor to have you here. we're really excited and we appreciate you taking the time to have this conversation with us. >> it's great to be here this whole conference and thank you to everybody and especially to the chief judge for making me feel so at home and forgiving me so much work to do during this. >> the lineup in that case were somewhat unusual given the recent divide on the court. i'm wondering from your perception what lessons can we learn from that case and from the lineup? >> well, truth be told, i do think that the lineups were less unusual than they just were lop sided. you know, the unusual lineup is usually like the 5-4, but everybody's all scrambled. but this was just a lop sided result. it was a 7-2 case, sometimes we have those. we have 7-2 cases. we have 8-1 cases. and in this case the outsiders, if you wi

she was a law clerk for sonia sotomayor for the -- before nomination to the supreme court. steven, let's talk about fani willis. she -- you've been watching her work on this case. do you think people have been underestimating just how ready she is to go to trial? >> certainly, i do think that people have been missed taking the time it's been taking to bring these indictments for a lack of preparedness, and i think the motion that we have seen so far are showing that, just like she said, she would be ready in october to go to trial if people were calling on it. now we have got two defendants at least going in october. it takes a lot of time to go through all of the evidence to charge 19 people with the multipronged effort to overturn georgia's election. so i think people need to know that she was getting ready to stay ready, as they say. >> she was ready. some people on the internet are saying, mess around and find out. fani willis is proving that to be true. so, melissa, look. just as stephen just said, there are two folks that are demanding speedy trials. others are trying

earlier this year, there were questions raised about justice sonia sotomayor, apparently prodding schools and libraries where she spoke to buy her book. how does what justice thomas did compare with his colleagues? >> we have been actively pursuing all the credible leads and tips on all the justices. we continue to report on all of them. so far what we know now is that justice thomas is an extreme outlier. we brought the reporting to former federal judges, including those who sat on the judicial committee that reviews disclosures, and jeremy vogel told us that he has never seen anything like this before. thought it was unprecedented for both the volume and frequency of the largesse. these are not one-off vacations. this is consistent, steady stream of luxury vacations that justice thomas has received, a the other justices who you may have heard about, like justice breyer, justice ginsburg, accepting vacations from benefactors -- we know about those because they disclosed them, and that is the important distinction, that they were on the disclosures. we will continue to look at all of the

and the ap also reported that justice sonia sotomayor's staff provided public institutions, with peopleem. this is a supreme court problem. joining me now brett murphy, one of the propublica reporters who broke the latest story about justice thomas. and also senior writer for slate, covering courts and law. brett, starting with you, thank you so much for that piece. it's really, really meaty and very, very dense. it seems to report that justice thomas broke the law by not disclosing many of the trips and gifts. can you just talk about that very quickly? what that law is? why does it make certain gifts more important to disclose than others? >> yes, so, it is the ethics and government act, charles. it was passed after watergate. and it pretty much says that government officials, most government officials, including the justices, have to disclose on their yearly financial reports. most gifts that they received, now, there are some exemptions. but those exemptions do not cover things like private plane travel, yacht cruises, expensive sports tickets. the ethics experts we spoke with, inclu

i want to show you a section of the dissent from sonia sotomayor.he says, "the unattractive lesson of the majority opinion is what is mine is mine and what is yours is yours. the lesson of public accommodations laws is altogeer different. it is that in a free and democratic society, there can be no social task. and that must be true the public market. the promise of freedom is empty if the government's powerless to ensure that a dollar in the hands of one person will purchase the same thing in the dollar of the hands of another." guest: justice sotomayor is taking us to the issue of tolerance. the battle between the majority and the dissent is the meeting of tolerance. sotomayor position is that a tolerant society is one that allows euro -- or home, church, synagogue to enter into speech, but if you offer a business, a restaurant, hotel, you have got to abide by the rules of the road that includes access to all members of society on an equal basis. those are two different understandings of tolerance. gorsuch says tolerance means you have got to allo