for baldwin and sonny rollins were born in harlem in sorted cd-r can have them come home has been really great. >> host: prior to joining chambre, where were you? >> i was a professor for 20 years. there i got archives as well, so that's what sort of god and the archive business. i'm also a poet and a writer. i had one previous nonfiction book called the grey album and from that i got interested in hoaxes and layers of the american history of fakery. [inaudible] >> it's a great word. it comes from politics actually. the missouri compromise in slavery, someone from the county, which is north carolina that i have to talk more. people started using am then it became bumped as a way of political bs. >> the current term fake news is not really anything new in our culture? >> it's not. starting in the 1830s and barnum and it's really two centuries of thinking about how did this come about. is it particularly american? what does it have to do with race and what does that have to do now? a lot of it in the 1830s starting with pt barnum is where i began the book, really comes about from new media