the dueling opinions from clarence thomas, his concurring opinion, and the two dissents from sonya sotomayor and brown-jackson. and especially between jackson and thomas, because thomas, they both agreed that -- that affirmative action was to right the wrongs, the historical wrongs. but they have very different views of how it works. of the effect of it. clarence thomas saw it as a burden. he says that it took away the accomplishment, that it tells people of color they're inferior. that it's an anchor while jackson was saying no, it lifts you up. it lifts all of us up. and sotomayor made note of the fact that the three women -- the three women justices of color on the court, she says were all products of affirmative action. lisa: seung min, thiis the trump legacy. so my question is who do you think politically benefits more? is it republicans who have wanted there and are celebrating or is it democrats who -- there's maybe anger in their base? seung min: it really depends. i've been trying to think through what kind of political impact we will see as a result of this ruling in the 2024 elect

and travel, but also, this week, the associated press reported that the supreme court justice sonya sotomayoras made more than $3 million selling her book and there's pressures on universities to purchase her book when she speaks to them. would that be a violation? sen. durbin: i am not going to comment on that until there is complete form, but i tell you the rules and proposals we're talking about will apply to every supreme court justice whether appointed by a democratic president or a republican president, makes no difference when it comes to ethics. leigh ann: and you expanded your investigation yesterday. you and senator whitehouse, your democratic colleague, sent letters to leonard alito, paul singer and other billionaires about the trips with the justice alito. before you had sent a letter to harlan crowe, a close friend of clarence thomas for sort of that relationship and the trips he has received. harlan crowe did not respond to you. what happens if leonard leo, if paul singer does not respond to you? sen. durbin: well, in fairness to harlan crowe, i don't know personally, his attorn

i want to tell thaw justice sonya sotomayor offered a blistering dissent saying there is now for thereak with precedent i mentioned -- a business constitutional right to refuse service to people in a protected class. that protected class reference is like saying a minority group, and she calls that a backlash to the equality movement and an unusually stark -- really in almost a motive terms says the new precedent, this new ruling is heartbreaking. i want to be clear what we're living through, because it comes in pieces and is not easy to see all at once, but these decisions we're living through is the court putting a thumb on the scale, breaking the precedent and changing what i referenced, that compromised approach, which is not that you have to think anything in america, not that you have to agree with anything -- indeed we pride ourselves on the ability to debate and disagree. but since we took down as a nation those, quote, whites only signs, since we took down discrimination, those horrific images which in many schools are still taught as one of the low points of the way we live