and if you put it in that sense is actually quite a scary prospect. sophia francis hogan said that the end to end encryption plans mean it'll struggle to disrupt espionage operations, but she, she's generally pro encryption. does it? does it seem strange for you? yeah, it does seem a little bit strange to be quite honest with you, ma'am. i understand the kids we know reasoning behind while we're having these conversations, but just it just doesn't seem quite right with me. very distraught. what about a hog interview? didn't you think our speech and the u. k. parliament? what, what will it lead to do you think? well, i think it is a little bit of a back up and to the online safe to build that is past and repugnant to right now. i think it's sort of, you know, the message that the government wanted to hear them to press ahead with this bill. and much the dismay of many of our civil liberties campaign is here in the u. k. which you think than you think the long delayed online hom as bill will now be approved for? i think i think it will be approved and yeah, i fall in the death of the dav