. >> that was an idea, sophia nelson with us, writes as a blogger for "the root" publication, internet publication where gates is the editor-in-chief. also talking about that discussion, that meeting if it does indeed happen at the white house between the sergeant, the professor that should be a meeting for all to see. >> well, not just them though. the point is individuals also have to be honest. look over the past week i have gotten all kinds of e-mails, a lot of vile e-mails from whites, all kinds of stuff. but have also gotten e-mails from african-americans, whites. hispanics, asians, look this is what i understand. part of the problem. people don't understand unless you walk in somebody's shoes. unless you can dialogue, unless you can talk. unless you can say, hmm, i never thought about that. i had a debate, one guy talking affirmative action. do you understand white women are the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action in history. he was like what? so you are walking around with a preconceived notion that is false. >> really, what you underscore, black and white america and ev