. >> joining me now is former congresswoman susan molinari, michael steele and sophia nelson. you are all still republicans, i think. right? susan, you still are. >> yes. >> yes, michael, you said yes. sophia, you said no. >> i'm a never trumper. you know that. >> so let's talk about, given marjorie taylor greene, house leader kevin mccarthy. michael steele, since you are in the middle square, i'm going to start with you. this is your party. you led this party. can you republican party you are still a member of and that you led, is it dead or can it survive this latest iteration of it? >> you know, i think in light of the way the last few weeks have played itself out, the continual embrace of the kind of hatred and excuse-making around that hatred, sort of stewing -- stirring people's passion around insurrection, et cetera, the idea of the party is no longer a relevant piece. it has dropped into this wasteland of trumpism. so, the question becomes for republicans like myself and susan and others, is how do we begin to re-establish the ground here? and what course do we take to