clearly there are other people that kent sorenson talked to he told the ron paul campaign is offering him money. >> no one, not ron paul, anyone affiliated with his campaign or associated with his campaign offered you any money to support ron paul. >> i was never offered a nickel from the ron paul campaign. >> ken sorenson gate, sounds like a media thing. >> if a candidate's measure in the polls, why would we care michele bachmann is dead last. it's interesting for several reasons. she won the straw poll in iowa. we all thought it was going to propel her to a top tier candidate status. also this person went to the ron paul campaign. the establishment pick. that made it interesting. ultimately this is interesting because michele bachmann, is iowa important we talked about before. it's the great eliminator. she might be finishing last, might be the end of her campaign. >> despite the fact it got attention, fun, saw it as a metaphor for the struggling campaign. >> i think that's right. the washington press did a great story on how this was sort of evidence of the broader themes that are

i imagine it does, but to what extent lacks not only gather information, but also as sorenson writes in sort of subtle ways to influence policy through the wording that you use, things that you emphasized and that kind of thing. >> you know, while sorenson, that was so special because he had been with kennedy since i think 1953 can which is the year he became a senator. and refer to them as my intellectual blood bank. and they travel together, you know, thousands and thousands of miles just the two of them on small planes. kennedy was kind of building his reputation around the country. and it just was an amazing synergy going back to "profiles in courage," and some of the great speeches of the time. in my experience, speech writers saw plenty of the president, andy card, the chief of staff said in this white house, if you need to see the president, you will. if you want to see the president, you won't. it has to be a need. and because speech is more important to him, speech writers had access to him when they needed to do and, we were in and out all the time, but that's important. i

you and congressman bachmann got into a flap this week when her state senator kent sorenson jumped ship from her campaign to your campaign. she ladies and gentlemens that he said that your campaign was paying him to jump ship. simple question. did your campaign or any one connected with your campaign or any one speaking on behalf of it or any third party vendor did any of them offer money to ken sorenson to come on board your campaign? >> no. if she has the evidence she should bring it forth. if she makes charges like that she should be able to defend it. no, that did not happen. >> she will get an opportunity right now. congressman paul thank you so much for talking with us today. happy new year again. see you back here in iowa. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> congresswoman michelle bachmann won the straw poll in august and finished campaigning in all of 99 counties. welcome back to you. before we get to the ron paul issue i want to ask you about the des moines register poll which has you quite frankly 7 percent running last against the candidates. do you have any hard evide

and this ikea was john kennedy in june of 1963 collaborated of course the sorenson. i invite people to go to the ability to get it from the university of virginia who can put up on your computer and listen to the speech. the power to go in another fight with wallace over desegregation, to go on television and midst of that and he did have the upper hand by then. they go and say this fundamental as the bible. and for the moral issue. does the johnson encouraged him to do. to make it a moral issue for president. african-americans have him come in many today still on their walls. and for anybody, i don't think ross is there. in all fairness to the younger critics, i don't think you can understand the early 60s without knowing how tough the fight for civil rights was. we need the troops to go into mississippi. federal troops to enforce and you have to do it that way. it was so tough. we had the freedom riders be at a jewish kids in the north are getting killed and buried device. this was an amazing struggle. at her and talks about vietnam. you and i know the real struggl

ted sorenson's still a friend. we did most of the negotiating on the format of the debates but we would enter with a strategy which would be put together by finch and hall and myself and probably rosemary wood had had a lot of say about policy, as well as being a very good secretary. so we decided that the debates would build up an impetus so the most important one would be the fourth debate just before the election. and our strength was the debate that would be on international relations. so we agreed to have the first one on domestic policy and the second and third would be on general questions and the fourth would be on international relations. that was a mistake because the big audience was there to see out of curiosity what was a debate like. so the biggest audience was for the first time and that was -- nixon's weakness in that first debate, beside things that were said about makeup -- was that he was trying to be too polite again. he was afraid of the tricky dick thing. his planning was shown off because of

i have seen dwindle number of supports as well as the distraction that she's had from this kent sorensondefected to the ron paul campaign. the question about beyond iowa, her strategy beyond iowa. something i put to the candidate yesterday. take a listen to what she told me. what is the strategy after tuesday going into new hampshire? >> well we worked hard. we laid a lot of foundation in new hampshire and we'll go there and we'll make our case to the voters. we have a lot of tea party support up in new hampshire. but we see this as a full race of all 50 states. so we yesterday sent in politics to ohio ballot and kansas ballot,ing look at all 50 states. at the end of the day we will be the nominee to defeat barack obama. we need a strong woman in the pattern of a ronald reagan and margaret thatcher to take him on and defeat him. that's what happened in 1980, everyone said a conservative could never win against carter and it was the opposite. we needed the strongest conservative we could have. it's the same thing now. i've proven that i'm the strong, consistent core conservative in this r

condom police can share an office with the google police we're trying to scrub reference of rick sorenson who sent arms name off the internet but today i'm going to direct a favor and redefine him based on his opinion the birth control could be made illegal from now on santorum will mean a frothy mix of constitutional ignorance and bigotry that is sometimes a byproduct of pandering to the tea party. google as the big picture for more information on the stories we covered visit our website to tom arbonne dot com free speech dot org and. also check out our two you tube channel their links over thom hartmann dot com and this entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free tom hartman i phone and i pad app at the app store you can send us feedback at twitter at tom underscore hartmann on facebook at tom underscore hartmann our blogs message boards telephone comment line at thom hartmann dot. and don't forget democracy begins when you show up when you participate it all starts with you get out there get active tag your it occupy something we'll see them on.

i thought it was fascinating that you had kim sorenson jump from michelle bachman to duran paul. these are such radically different candidates. but from the point of the view of the hard core religious right, they're very much of a piece. on the one hand, that seems strange on the surface because ron paul is libertarian. but when i was talking to pastors in iowa, they were basically saying there is, we do want a theocracy, but we want it from the ground up. they want to remove all the impediments on the local scale. so, for them, it is really about getting rid of government and all of the supreme court protections for minoritieminori. >> he's got a big christian reconstruction. i think the difference between ron paul, 2008 and 2012 is the war weariness. when i talk -- when you look at all of those young people voting for ron paul, they're not going because they want a theocracy. >> no, you're right. but he came -- >> they want nothing more than the gold standard. a central, political science fact that 18-year-olds love the gold standard. >> but he came in second among them. >> fi

i thought it was fascinating that you had kim sorenson jump from michelle bachman to duran paul. these are such radically different candidates. but from the point of the view of the hard core religious right, they're very much of a piece. on the one hand, that seems strange on the surface because ron paul is libertarian. but when i was talking to pastors in iowa, they were basically saying there is, we do want a theocracy, but we want it from the ground up. they want to remove all the impediments on the local scale. so, for them, it is really about getting rid of government and all of the supreme court protections for minorities. >> he's got a big christian reconstruction. i think the difference between ron paul, 2008 and 2012 is the war weariness. when i talk -- when you look at all of those young people voting for ron paul, they're not going because they want a theocracy. >> no, you're right. but he came -- >> they want nothing more than the gold standard. a central, political science fact that 18-year-olds love the gold standard. >> but he came in second among them. >> first o

connected with your campaign or speaking on behalf of it or third party vendor offer money to ken sorenson to come on board of the campaign. >> guest: no, if she has the evidence. if she brings charges she should defend it. that didn't happen. >> chris: she will get an opportunity. congressman paul, thank you for talkuc to us. happy new year and see you back in iowa tomorrow. >> guest: thank you very much. >> chris: congresswoman mitchell bachmann -- michele bachmann won the aimes straw poll. welcome back. >> guest: thank you, chris. >> chris: i want to ask you about the des moines register poll that has you running last in the candidates contesting iowa. you have any hard evidence that the poll is wrong and you will do better on tuesday night. >> guest: the 99 county tour was ambitious . we had huge crowd and had 250 to 350 people come out at a stop and we saw literally thousands of people making conversions on the spot. it was frankly after the fox debate in sioux city. they saw in me machine to take it to barack obama in the debate and hold him accountable and when i questioned ron paul

i thought it was fascinating that you had kim sorenson jump from michelle bachman to duran paul. these are such radically different candidates. but from the point of the view of the hard core religious right, they're very much of a piece. on the one hand, that seems strange on the surface because ron paul is libertarian. but when i was talking to pastors in iowa, they were basically saying there is, we do want a theocracy, but we want it from the ground up. they want to remove all the impediments on the local scale. so, for them, it is really about getting rid of government and all of the supreme court protections for minority ies minorities. >> he's got a big christian reconstruction. i think the difference between ron paul, 2008 and 2012 is the war weariness. when i talk -- when you look at all of those young people voting for ron paul, they're not going because they want a theocracy. >> no, you're right. but he came -- >> they want nothing more than the gold standard. a central, political science fact that 18-year-olds love the gold standard. >> but he came in second among the

and the second was john kennedy in june of 1963 collaborated with sorenson. i invite people to go and get it from the university of virginia. you can put it up on your computer and listen to the speech. >> guest: the power the president to go in the middle of a fight with wallace and the university of alabama. in the midst of that he did have the upper hand by then. they go and save its fundamental as the bible. the moral issue -- that's what johnston encouraged him to do. for a president, african-americans have had, many today still, on their wall. a picture of bobby and that cooking. i don't think chris was there. in all fairness to the younger critics, i don't did he can understand the early 60s without knowing how tough the fight for civil rights was. federal troops -- >> host: and alabama. >> guest: you have to do it that way. you have the freedom riders. young jewish kid from north were killed and buried alive. this was an amazing struggle. everyone talks about vietnam. you and i know the real struggle began and ended for civil rights. it was domestic.

or any one connected with your campaign or any one speaking on behalf of it, offer money to kent sorenson to come onboard your campaign? >> no, and if she has the evidence she should bring it forth. no, that did not happen. >> chris: she will get an opportunity right now. congressman paul thank you so much for talking with us today. happy new year again. we'll see you back here in iowa tomorrow. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> chris: congresswoman michele bachmann won the ames straw poll here in august and just finished campaigning in all of iowa's 99 counties. congresswoman welcome back to you. >> thank you, chris. >> i want to ask you about the des moines register poll which has you quite frankly 7% running last among the six candidates seriously contesting iowa. do you have any hard evidence that the poll is wrong and that you will do much better than that on tuesday night? >> the evidence that we have is of the 99 county tour that we just completed was very ambitious. we would have huge crowds, 250 or 300 people come out at a stop. we saw literally thousands of people makin

or any one connected with your campaign or any one speaking on behalf of it, offer money to kent sorenson to come onboard your campaign? >> no, and if she has the evidence she should bring it forth. no, that did not happen. >> chris: she will get an opportunity right now. congressman paul thank you so much for talking with us today. happy new year again. we'll see you back here in iowa tomorrow. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> chris: congresswoman michele bachmann won the ames straw poll here in august and just finished campaigning in all of iowa's 99 counties. congresswoman welcome back to you. >> thank you, chris. >> i want to ask you about the des moines register poll which has you quite frankly 7% running last among the six candidates seriously contesting iowa. do you have any hard evidence that the poll is wrong and that you will do much better than that on tuesday night? >> the evidence that we have is of the 99 county tour that we just completed was very ambitious. we would have huge crowds, 250 or 300 people come out at a stop. we saw literally thousands of people makin

he talk about the george sorenson's of the world and then many people think that is the open society. it's a bunch of liberal agenda. the power is basically corporate power. it can be used well. it can be very good for the world, but it can also be bad. when you about the concentration of financial wealth in their pursuit of stop prices and big payouts for ceos and in creation of a digital world, where we are not brick-and-mortar, building things. they are not putting money and investment were used to be into things that invest in economy, but pushing a button on the computer are making profits, betting on both sides of the game and scrambling to grab for producing methane. they may produce assets to show up in a bank account somewhere. but lawyers are accused. now, they are not producing much of anything except ginning and turn on computer numbers. that is to me a really big concern. and so, when you are being told that any kind of concentrated wealth and power, particularly now on a cobleskill, that is interested in a very tiny% doing well and not at least stimulating economic growt

. >> sorenson, that was so special because he had been with kennedy since 1953, which is the year heame a senator and contendy referred to him as my intellectual blood bank and they traveled together thousands and thousands of miles, two of them on small planes. kennedy was kind of building his reputation around the country and it just was an amazing synnergy going back to "profiles of courage" and great speeches of the time. in my experience, speechwriters saw plenty of the president. andy card, the chief of staff said, in this white house, if you need to see the president, you will. if you want to see the president, you won't. i has to be a need. and because speeches were important to him, the speechwriters had access to him when they needed to. we were in and out all the time. but that's important. and i think my colleagues would agree you have to see the president when you need his input. >> there is a big rivalry in the white house for what you call face time. and people want it and need it. and a lot of times people will say, you don't need to be in that meeting. i'll tell you

i have seen dwindle number of supports as well as the distraction that she's had from this kent sorensondefected to the ron paul campaign. the question about beyond iowa, her strategy beyond iowa. something i put to the candidate yesterday. take a listen to what she told me. what is the strategy after tuesday going into new hampshire? >> well we worked hard. we laid a lot of foundation in new hampshire and we'll go there and we'll make our case to the voters. we have a lot of tea party support up in new hampshire. but we see this as a full race of all 50 states. so we yesterday sent in politics to ohio ballot and kansas ballot,ing look at all 50 states. at the end of the day we will be the nominee to defeat barack obama. we need a strong woman in the pattern of a ronald reagan and margaret thatcher to take him on and defeat him. that's what happened in 1980, everyone said a conservative could never win against carter and it was the opposite. we needed the strongest conservative we could have. it's the same thing now. i've proven that i'm the strong, consistent core conservative in this r