and loss of countries this can be very gradual and i think this is this is very important soroti when i started this research in the ninety's we had it oh my. and it was. what we. call and. the stage of stage where people looked away but were. basically just waiting to die now we know that many patients we talk to are unconscious or so. and so this is very important. or less consciousness is not all or nothing ok i think that this talk will be about different gradations of how much will lose conscience and what a conscious really is in different states for instance some people write they report saying all kinds of wild things during a near death experience which would call an unconscious state of mind i know that some scientists say oh these are just how listen ations but if my brain is hallucinating in this state right in means i still have conscious is just you know tripping on something so does that mean that even in the state of comma a human being possesses like you say minimal or some sort of consciousness do we have a notion of how much could that be and what is it. i think you