we were talking about -- at s h sothe sotheby's years ago he would say, teach me about the art businessidn't work out so well. here's a layup question, but it's key. every investor out there, the professionals and amateurs, are wondering, where do they put their money and how do they put it? stock market was down. this year the average hedge fund is up 9%, the market's down 4. or 5%. how do you give advice to investors about long-only managers in a world of hedge funds and credit funds and more complex ways of investing, some of which have done relatively better than the long-only management. >> you know, the stock market, when i started was, i guess, less than 1,000. traded between 600 and 1,000 from 1966 to 1982. i started in 1970. the stock market, even after it's fallen 82% eight times over the last 39 years. so that means that's three doubles. i'm sorry -- yeah, three doubles. >> yeah, three doubles.s. >> and that means you double your money every 13 years and 13 years means you're making 6% or 7% a year. if you just invest in stocks, in index, and i think index is an interesting i