they would not have been able to bring him to south africa. it was forbidden to go to south africa.he queen went there, and it was an outrage. it was isolated, and rodriguez was also isolated. he did not have a telephone. those three things, no internet and isolated made this happen. tavis: we discover a number of neighbors who thought he was a strange guy walking around with his guitar all the time. they did not know anything about who he was. the guy lives in the same place for years. nobody had any idea of the acclaim this guy had around the world. how did he never gave all those years of living in that kind of artistic of security? -- obscurity? >> the dream never stopped. his family said he was always playing the guitar. he was playing in the bathroom because that is the place with the best acoustics. >> he was playing in the bathroom. >> he would walk with a guitar on his back. everyone knew of him. tavis: he is in motor city, but he is walking. >> he was always walking everywhere, and everyone was like who is this guy? he was not homeless, but he was this mysterious black-dre

that is the latest on that dramatic news in south africa.is charged with the murder of the young woman. will bring you developments on that. saysbritish government three horse carcasses containing course drug have entered the human feud -- food chain in france. it is a pain killer which is potentially harmful to humans, not to horses. the european union has ordered random tests across 27 member states to check whether forcemeat has been re-labeled as beat. >> time to share the intelligence -- arriving in brussels, ministers from the seven countries directly involved in the course meat destination. since january, the first strains were discovered and 18 countries have been forced to withdraw products that contained significant volumes of course meat. norway and germany are the latest for the scale and complexity of the problem is now greater than first envisaged it. >> there is more than one problem here in terms of one person or one entity. we will have to wait and see when we pull together all the data from all the investigation going on th

he is well known inside south africa and outside south africa and frankly here's a guy with prosthetic legs. thas a distinctive character. the idea that he could slip into anonymity is knots a plausible argument and that did seem to me for all the analysis of the evidence, that was the key factor in the judge's decision to grant bail. >> i found it interesting that the judge credited the defense team with going on the record with some version of the events. doesn't that raise the bail for pistorius because he purchased his release really with giving some evidence to the prosecution that they may use against him later on? >> i think you make a really excellent point. that was something that all of us who followed these cases criticize. don't commit yourself so specifically to a story when you are a defendant in advanced of seeing all the evidence in the case. it turned out to be very helpful on the bail decision. however -- >> the spokesperson said the same thing. we've been following the tweets. they said it was risky to do that but they did it to get bail. >> but it very much could co

will choose to flee not because of the strength of the state's case but because he's not tied in south africa. what are the emotional family and community ties to the place which he's to be tried. he's a south african citizen. is he a professional athletic, athlete and resides at 286 silver wood estate. he resided in the republic of south africa all his life and he frequently travels abroad to participate in international sporting events. he regards south africa as his permanent place of abode, he has no intention to relocate to any other country. he admitted he has friends and family in south africa although he has friends abroad. he owns immovable property in south africa, the immovable property where he currently resides at silver wood estates, this property is valued approximately $5 million and encumbered by a mortgage bond in the amount of $2 million. there are two further immovable properties within weeping willow estates which properties have a combined value of approximately $1.6 million, bonded to the value of one. he has an estate in cape which is $1.7 million not bonded, he owns m

then he moved to the history of bail in south africa. ng he did so far i think is he said that the evidence was sufficient for him to consider this case as one of premeditated murder level six in south african law. that establishes -- >> but he went on to say i'm not here to decide if in fact that, whether or not he's guilty. >> but it is still important for him to say at least the government presented evidence from which he could find premeditated murder, which establishes a higher threshold, which makes it harder for pistorius to get out on bail. that is a decision that is at least a preliminary victory for the prosecution that he will consider this as a premeditated murder case. >> he's covered a lot of ground but sort of the ground he has not covered is the context in which this whole entire case is happening, right? we know pistorius has talked about how fearful he was because of the atmosphere of violence that exists already in south africa, but there's another atmosphere of violence as well against women in south africa. >> definit

in south africa, they will call it culpable homicide. so one way or another, pistorius, i think is in deep trouble, even if rachel self is defending him. okay. so -- so, and the other thing i wanted to say is what people have to understand also is mr. pistorius got the benefit of a very favorable decision before the current magistrate. under the south african system, a higher court now can look at this and it won't necessarily be the same magistrate. so, after a period of six months or so we may see a new trial. >> well, i don't necessarily think that that's true. this is such an interesting situation and we are all looking at that through our state of mind what we have seen before and is unlike anything i have ever seen before for sure. what is the subjective state of mind of oscar pistorius? what is the subjective state of mind of somebody living in a dated community of this fear culture? what is the subjective state of mind somebody as famous as he is, okay? there have been reports saying that he is as important to south africa right

the jury system was abolished in south africa. influence how this case will -- >> the time line in the south african system, when will the actual facts be argued in court. >> when will they share the defense? that i think is the more striking thing when you lock yourself in as we've been saying before, before you get what the argument will be with the evidence from the prosecution is very, very, very dangerous, and the -- >> because it's true. this is why i love attorneys, she said i like the information about how dangerous south africa is, there is this fear. you're right, attorneys are cherry picking this works for our case there is an argument to be made of what happened. anne bremner always nice to talk to you. they have the continuation of the bail hearing tomorrow so we keep watching it. >>> other stories making news, john has that for us. >>> following several developing story, police in turkey issuing hundreds of arrest warrants in response to a deadly attack at the u.s. embassy there, officials looking for members of the r

al jazeera, south africa. >> the case has sparked outrage across south africa. the sheer number of cases means that many rapes often go unreported. one in four south african women or girls is raped, with an attack taking place every four minutes. there are more than 60,000 rapes reported every year in a country of 50 million people. the real figure is much higher. joining me now vast get from johannesburg, the chief executive of the antirape group. why do think there is but in over this particular case -- there is been such an outcry over this particular case? >> i think south africans have had enough. enough is enough. the brutality of the case is another reason. i think people around the world are finding their voices through the arab spring, occupy wall street, and all the austerity measures. i think people are taking the power back and they have had enough. >> tomi about the way the radio stations got involved in trying to raise the profile of such an important issue. >> i think we all read the statistics in south africa. we know the stories. we hear them ev

we go live to south africa for more. >> restoring faith in europe. the german president sets out his future for the vision of the european union. >> and the final day of campaigning in italy -- why sunday's national election has the world nervously watching. well, his decision kept all of south africa and much of the world in suspense today. a south african judge said yes to bail for oscar pistorius, the paralympic star accused of murdering his girlfriend. >> the man known as the blade runner was forced to post $113,000, and over his passport, and turn over his gun collection to police. >> pistorius and his attorneys have three months to put together a defense. >> oscar pistorius was braced for the worst as he entered court, but his defense did a good job after he revealed mistakes in the prosecution case, the judge ruled that pistorius could go free on bail. no cameras were allowed in the courtroom while the decision was read. the olympics are stood in silence as the announcement was made -- the olympic star. supporters applauded the ruling. >> alth

i spoke to third-degree executive producer and host which is a show in south africa. deborah patta. "third-degree" is broadcast on the south african independent television station. i asked her why both brothers are in trouble at the same time. >> it throws the spotlight on his family. were they dark tendencies within the family as a whole. i mean here is this brother who is charged with culpable homicide as a result police are saying of reckless driving. we don't know if there was alcohol involved. i think perhaps the media wouldn't have paid much attention. clearly this hadn't been a huge issue in south africa until the spotlight was cast so sharply and profoundly on his brother, oscar pistorius and now everyone hungry for information all of these dark things come out. anything is available for scrutiny. and perhaps it would have just been one of those sad things about a family member. and not really taken that seriously. i think that's been part of the problem. with this entire case. >> did oscar pistorius become sort of a symbol of the triumph of south africa and now in another wa

would choose to flee not because of the strength of the state case but because he's not tied in south africa. what are the emotional family community and ox pagesal ties of the -- occupational of the accused to the place he is tied. mr. pistorius is south african citizen. id. a professional athletic. resides at 6286 silver wood estates. he resided in the republic of south africa all his life and he frequently travels abroad to participate in international sporting events. he regards south africa as his permanent place of abode. he has not plans to relocate to anybody. he admits he has friends and family in south africa although he has friends abroad. heens immoveable property in south africa. what are the assets he has. heens i am moveable property which consists of property. immoveable property he currently resides at silver wood estates. this property is valued at approximately five million encumbered by mortgage bond in the amount of 2 million. there are two further immoveable properties with weeping willow estates, pretoria east, which properties have a combined value of approximately 1.

right now, rodriguez is doing concerts in south africa.erous concerts, sold out concerts in south africa. his first concert was in 1998. he walks into the stadium and there is a standing ovation and he literally goes backwards because he was a laborer in detroit and he on a stage with 50,000 people. i spoke to his daughter yesterday, he still lives in the same house and she says with the same furniture. but he now is playing to soldout concerts in south africa and you can see him in the u.s. in certain concerts and that's what the documentary "searching for sugarland" looks at his life and this extraordinary man. >> looking forward to seeing it. what about all the record sales, no one knew where he was. where did all the money go, did it go to his family? >> they didn't know where a lot of the money went. it was pirated. that is part of the controversy. now he is getting royalties but his daughter says, he gives the money away. he doesn't use or spend the money. when he's staying in a lavish hotel room he still insists on sleeping on the c

south africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world.spn reporter jeremy spent time with him. >> oscar pistorius was like many who live in south africa who live in some degree of fear of being a vmi of violence. >> reporter: a few months ago, he tweeted about possible break-ins and how he would react. nothing like getting home to hear the washing machine on and thinking it's an intruder to go into full combat recon mode into the pantry. over the last few days, corporate sponsors have distanced themselves from pistorius suspending the ads. and as a shocked nation comes to terms with this brutal tragedy, perhaps steenkamp's own words are a small comfort. >> i'm going to miss you all so much. i love you very, very much. >> reporter: for "nightline," south africa. >>> just ahead, from bare foot basketball games to obstacle course bonding. one man's quest to unlock the secrets of happy families. ♪ [ male announcer ] start with a groundbreaking car. good. then invent an entirely new way to buy one. no. no. no. yes! a website that works like a

the couple were a bit of a celebrity couple here in south africa. we do know that. in terms of what happened, what transpired, it's tragic either way. one family has lost a sister, a daughter, of course, oscar pistorius, the big question now is the implications for his career. he was supposed to race in march. it's highly unlikely he'll be taking to the track by then. >> do we know if steenkamp and pistorius lived together? >> reporter: those details will be coming out, what kind of relationship they had, where she was, where he had been. i think the nature of this is all going to come out in court. we believe -- it's believed that oscar will appear in a magistrate's court within the next few hours. so hopefully more details will come out of that. >> robyn curnow, thank you very much. live in johannesburg for us. >>> new details in the manhunt for christopher dorner. it turns out dorner may have been hiding in plain sight in nearby resort condo for days, just a few steps from a police command post. the unit belonged to jim and karen reynolds. they say it was them, n

fighting south africa's scourge of domestic violence. reeva had previously been in an abusive relationship. mike steenkamp is reeva's uncle. >> she spoke out against domestic vealence. >> that was also big. she didn't tolerate it. she spoke out and she told her friends we're going to stay in for it and we'll speak out about it. >> she had spoken about having a previously abusive relationship. >> she would never stand for anything like that again. if she said something once, you could bet your bottom dollar that that was it. >> on valentine's eve, reeva was preparing to speak the next day on the importance of self worth to students at sandown high school in john hanesburg. these are widely reported to be her own words. be brave. always see the positive. make your voice heard. but as the world now knows she never gave that speech. shot and killed by oscar pistorius who insists he thought she was an intruder. however, the prosecution strongly disagrees. >> this is pure premeditated murder. >> yesterday a spokesman for the prosecutor's offic

>> is it even a crime in south africa, and you might not know the answer about south africa, to just hear somebody in the bathroom and you just shoot through the door? >> is that a crime, yes. >> that came up quite often in the hearing. that's clearly a crime. it takes only a degree of negligence to be culpable homicide in south africa. and certainly firing through a door without knowing who is behind it is negligence. now his defense will be if this gets to trial will be self-defense. but it's going to be a tough argument to make that it's self-defense based entirely on his assumption that someone had crawled through the window when he absolutely had no idea. >> even on self-defense, there's an argument and his lawyer made it, he's still culpable. they call it culpable homicide by definition. it really is not that much different than the u.s. law in terms of the degrees of homicide. >> and very quickly because we're almost out of time. isn't it it common sense he would yell before he would shoot? whoever is in that bathroom, i'm going to shoot? isn't that and kmo common sense. >> i

is that an honest assessment of what is going on in south africa?think you -- you said it earlier, the will of justice -- the wheels of justice turn quite slowly steenkamp one of many women affected by domestic violence. it as very large problem. it happens far too often. violent crime happens very often. and as i think the world saw you during the arguments during the bail hearing the police -- it is a problem and even the president addressed it. >> judge jeanine: thanks so much for being with us this evening. and joining me now on the phone from south africa is the editor for the heap, whose south african magazine got an exclusive interview with reeva steenkamp just a week before her death. good evening. >> how are you, judge? >> judge jeanine: very well, thank you. all right, we know that you were able to get the last print interview with reeva before she was murdered. can you tell us what -- what her state of mind was? and how she talked about oscar pistorius? >> of course. you know what is thought of judge is obviously nobody could have predict

>> is it even a crime in south africa, and you might not know the answer about south africa, to just hear somebody in the bathroom and you just shoot through the door? >> is that a crime, yes. >> that came up quite often in the hearing. that's clearly a crime. it takes only a degree of negligence to be culpable homicide in south africa. and certainly firing through a door without knowing who is behind it is negligence. now his defense will be if this gets to trial will be self-defense. but it's going to be a tough argument to make that it's self-defense based entirely on his assumption that someone had crawled through the window when he absolutely had no idea. >> even on self-defense, there's an argument and his lawyer made it, he's still culpable. they call it culpable homicide by definition. it really is not that much different than the u.s. law in terms of the degrees of homicide. >> and very quickly because we're almost out of time. isn't it it common sense he would yell before he would shoot? whoever is in that bathroom, i'm going to shoot? isn't that common sense. >> i will ans

. >> welcome back to "tmz" south africa for your latest updates on safaris, surfs and accused murderers> oscar pistorius was just granted bail in south africa. >> oscar pistorius, double amputee olympic runner was arrested for killing his girlfriend reeva steenkamp in -- in when she was in the bathroom of hilts south african home and he claims he thought she was an intruder. >> would it be fair to say he doesn't have a leg to stand on? >> that's terrible. because a million people have said it. >> this morning he scored a victory in the case as she was granted bail for $112,000. >> killing is like bargain prices in south africa. i don't know if you have to put up 10%, but that's less than a kia for killing somebody. >> by the way, south africa is a beautiful place. >> come for the scenery, stay because it's cheap to kill somebody. >> is there a small part of you that have believes him? >> not even a small part. >> his story makes sense. why didn't he stage it? >> do you think the first shot she made a sound? >> yes. >> ok. then why three more shots? >> because he couldn't determine what

. >>> happening now in south africa, a ruling is expected at any minute in the oscar pistorius bail hearing. the south african par paraolym. >> his attorney says his prosthetics need adjusting every month and he's too famous to flee saying it would be too give to get away with it. at most the 26 year old should be charged with culpable homicide. he says it was an accident thinking she was an intruder in his bathroom. the prosecution calls his story improbable saying the reason you fire four shots is to kill. as we wait for this decision to come down, we are hearing from pistorius' coach who was in the courtroom today. he says he plans to work with the track star very soon. >> i cannot say because i'm not the legal side of it. we can start training on monday if he's out on bail. >> he says he'll start training with oscar as soon as monday if released on bond. the top detective, the most senior detective, took over pistorius' case after the original lead investigator was removed from that case just yesterday after his bungled testimony for the prosecution. turns out he was facing attempted mu

this brought up the issue of gun ownership in south africa. south africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world. any people feel safer owning firearms. as the investigation continues, it could be a while before we know the details of what happened. >> live now outside the courtroom. something quite dramatic inside the courtroom. tell us about the events that took place. >> people are waiting for oscar pistorius to leave the actual court. the charge of premeditated murder. it could mean they feel they have strong enough evidence against the story us -- against pistorius. they say they need time to prepare. oscar pastorius will spend time over the weekend and will come back to the court on tuesday for the hearing. >> how is the south african media reporting this case? >> because the police are not giving us too much information, people have started speculating. some of the local papers are saying that police are saying things like, for example, they were called to the house early thursday evening when neighborhood people were shouting i

breaking news following out of south africa for you.the prosecution that he would flee the country south africa's chief magistrate grants the double amputee track star bail ahead of his murder trial for allegedly killing his model girlfriend. we'll get a live report and legal

this is one of the most beloved figures in south africa. he may be after nelson mandela, the second most beloved person in that country. a hero to south africans, he brought world renown to the disabled, showed what they can accomplish. so here is this endearing person who, in a rage, the state says, on valentine's day, because reeva, his girlfriend, was going to leave him, follows her into the bathroom. she locks herself in terror. shoots through the door four times, killing her after an hour of really contentious arguing, heard by the neighbors. so here is what happened. now you have this beloved figure. he is facing a daunting case the state has presented. it seems a slam dunk. but guess what? now you have the facts and circumstances as the prosecution described them about hot blade runner, you know, puts on his prosthetic devices, gets the gun and goes to the door where she is cowering and unplugs it. this is the facts and circumstances as the state describes it. pistorius, through a very clever attorney and a sworn statement made by the

in pretoria, south africa. olympic and paralympic at least oscar pistorius, the double amputee, has appeared in court and been charged with murder. he broke down in tears as prosecutors announced they would pursue a charge of premeditated murder. his lawyers described him as being in an extremely traumatized state of mind. we have this report from our correspondent richard galpin. >> hiding his face from the cameras, oscar pistorius day is to be a police van taken to court. the global sporting legend facing a day of reckoning after his girlfriend or shot dead. inside, the courtroom was packed with people waiting to see what would happen when he appeared before a magistrate. it was a dramatic moment. he looked extremely tense. he was formally charged with murder and broke down in tears. he said nothing. the shooting took place at his home in this closely guarded housing estate in the early hours of thursday want, valentine's day. the woman he is accused of murdering was his girlfriend, a model of reeva steenkamp

live from south africa with the details. expwhrnd stunned south africans watched reeva come back to life saturday. appearing here in the first episode of "tropic island treasure." she was killed valentine's day, her boyfriend, oscar pistorius is charged with her murder. he remains inside a south africa prison tonight. >> as you can imagine, he's numb with shock and grief. and total pain. >> reporter: steenkamp was discovered in a pool of blood in his home. police say she was shot four times with a pistol they recovered from inside the house. the south african newspaper reports the first neighbor on the scene after the shooting found pistorius performing cpr on her. prosecutors dismiss the theory that he mistook his girlfriend for an intruder and have charged him with pre-med tornado murder -- premeditated murder punishable by life in prison. south africans are still trying to make sense of the tragedy. >> i feel so sorry for both families. >> reporter: a sorrow that will be felt watching the girl in her tv series. her family

a lot of people die by firearms in south africa, don't they?ieve they do and i think that perhaps even more than our own violent society and our own gun-soaked society south africa society is on a hair-trigger and i think it's fair to say -- we don't know, first of all, what happened in this incident. i don't know what happened in this incident. it's very tough to do police reporting from here and know what's going on in south africa. but i do think it's fair to say that oscar was on high alert. oscar was on a hair-trigger. oscar had a certain paranoia about who might be coming into his house. if that is a part of what happened in this incident i don't know. but it wouldn't surprise me. >> suarez: i was trying to think of what an equivalent sort of experience in the united states might be. this is a person who's huge in south africa, oscar pistorius and now he's behind bars. i couldn't even think of an american equivalent, can you? >> yes, i can think of some. certainly o.j. simpson who -- it's hard to remember now because o.j. is short hand fo

we don't have the death penalty anymore in south africa. and if he is in fact murder -- one doesn't want to call it murder in the normal, but where it isn't planned, it can be less. >> do you have cameras in the courtroom for trials? >> not usually. in a normal situation a case is not televised. however, the press have the opportunity to approach the presiding judge and request that a case be televised. a judge can in fact turn that down. in this instance, although the matter is not being heard by a judge but by i think you call it a lower court judge or a magistrate, in south africa there was an application yesterday for the proceedings to be televised. the magistrate turned that down and said that only at the stage of the handing down of the ruling on bail can the judgment be televised. >> william, thank you very much. i assume we will be calling on you throughout this because this will take some time. thank you, william. >> thank you. bye. >> and he's seizing the world attention during the london olympic games. he competed in 11 races, s