, which is about to start south africa. we'll have 9 speakers in the next 3 hours and they will start with the minister of justice for now. so i'm ola, who is also a problem in a n c politician. he will make the case that he thinks and choose country believes that is ralph is committing genocide in gaza. and of course, that is a history of apartheid in south africa. and that's why he will make this also this very strong case of against the oppression of the palestinian people in guy. so this will be followed by the legal payments, a very prominent legal team that south africa has managed to assemble john to garth, which is a veterans lawyer, 8 to 7 years old. he is a former us special rep. it's also on human rights in the sort of thing and occupied territories. he has to be also a judge here at the i c, j. and he has made a case that we all said that the apartheid that was offered by the black south africans is also happening a committed by, as well against palestinians, so that it will be auto speakers from the legal team,

that, that south africa, south africa did not make interactions with it, that they had the opportunity to sold the dispute. does the law requires that they sold the dispute before taking it to the international court of justice. it's requires that the 10th to resolve it. so what's the genocide convention says is that disputes under the convention that can be referred to the i c j and the cash flow of the i, c j is quite particular about what the word dispute means. and in particular, it requires some form of engagement between the 2 parties. it does say that because to the i see jen, so that africa relied on this, that a dispute will result when one states is x and the other states is the opposite of the case. so the i, c, j has also emphasized that there's going to be some interaction between the 2 states on that disagreement. and it's possible that south africa wasn't careful enough on this step. i simply con on so that on the fact, okay, how fun on the question of genocidal intent to these really said there is no genocidal intent. and that the statements made by is really political

south africa should vote, respond to south africa's request and declare that the zionist regime is actually accused of committing genocide. if this happens , it will be a historic vote . cotton means that the court should agree to deal with this case and issue a temporary order in the future and declare that the zionist regime should stop all its military operations because it is actually committing a crime in the future so that i can find mahovi's arrival in the future. well, naturally, this front is a legal battle it will also help against israel. later on , the supporters of the zionist regime, as someone who committed a crime, can be opened to the legal bodies. there is an expectation that one of the lawyers actually declared in his defense that this is the first genocide the victims have crimes that are committed against them, and they publish these injuries in cyberspace and the media , they are exposed to the audience of the international community, because they expect that they will show a supportive reaction, but on the other hand, it is possible that the court completely vote for

south africa's aparthy prime minister daniel molan was the..." first foreign prime minister to visit tel aviv following the nakba. hendrick vevad, a south african apartide architect in prime minister, even claimed in 1961 that israel, like south africa, is apartite state. that was six decades before amnesty international said the same. in order to improve the image of apathide in south africa, israel and the apathite authorities established a joint secretariat for political and psychological warfare in. in 1975. by 1981, the apartide army in south africa had 200 israeli military advisors and hundreds of apothy troops were also educated in israeli military academies. israeli military instructors provided direct guidance to the south african reconnaissance commando's elite unit in particular. elbit systems, israel's largest arms business played a key role in the development of south african's military electronics. industry, south africa's naval forces were also trained in israel and sold radar systems by elta, a subsidiary of the state-owned israeli aerospace industries. israel was also

south africa's aparthy prime minister daniel molan was the first foreign prime minister. to visit tel aviv following the nakba. hendrick veerd, a south african apartide architect and prime minister, even claimed in 1961 that israel, like south africa, is an apartite state. that was six decades before amnesty international said the same. in order to improve the image of apartide in south africa, israel and the apartite authorities established a joint secretariat for political and psychological warfare in 1975. by 1981, the aparthite army in south africa had 200 israeli military advisors and hundreds of aparthy troops were also educated in israeli military academies. israeli m' military instructors provided direct guidance to the south african reconnaissance commando's elite unit in particular. elbit systems, israel's largest arms business, played a key role in the development of south african's military electronics industry. south africa's naval forces were also trained in israel and sold radar systems by elta, a subsidiary of the state-owned israeli aerospace industries. israel was al

so why is south africa bringing this case? i asked her correspondent diane hawker and it's johanna spark. most of africa believes it has. there's responsibility for a number of reasons. the 1st being that it is a signatory to the a genocide convention that he joined to that convention in 1994 just shortly off to sub africa obtained its own democratic states. and the 2nd reason that the south african government has, as put forward is of africa's own cost of having lived through the segregation and discrimination under the apartheid state. and so there for to believes that there is an affinity between what happened to south africa and what is happening in gaza . and has decided to bring that forward a to the international court of justice and raising a number of issues as, as summarized by my colleagues. and tell us more about that history and south africa's support and, and solidarity for the palestinian cause. so the, so the derek g t, it goes back a number of years as far back to nelson mandela's period as the liberation of fi

go from now but south africa will— countries go from now but south africa will see this as a victorym, _ africa will see this as a victory for them, that they took a lead, that they— for them, that they took a lead, that they brought the case, and that they have _ that they brought the case, and that they have been vindicated. daniel, we will leave it there with you for now. thank you very much. these are live pictures from the hague that you can see on your scene now. we've seen groups of people waving palestinian flags. we have also seen groups of people wearing, waving the israeli flag, this is the international court ofjustice, the un's top court, gives its provisional ruling on a case against israel, a case of genocide, the judge in the court did a super millinery rulings. i think we might now be able to take a little listen to what the judge had to say earlier. at to what the “udge had to say earlier. �* , , , . earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings. _ earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings. the — earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings, the court

south africa also noticed that it was quick to condemn. they'll sober 7 from us attack on israel, but that's a sold as no justification for quotes genocidal acts by the idea. again, civilians and gaza. south african representatives have provided the following examples of israeli officials, vowing to destroy garza with the lead. i've ordered a complete c, jim, gaza, there will be no electricity, no food, no more, no fuel. everything will be cut off. we are fighting against human animals and we are acting accordingly. cool. um the entire people and the leadership of the people down embraced um and believing them. remember what looks good to you tomorrow, but we remember and we fight and was a him. meanwhile, some locals in south africa told us they're proud over countries, the size of stance on the war in the middle east. we have lived with other people who have consistently pretended that's the more moral than us have shown that them are really lacking. and importantly, i don't think that the world is going to be the same off to this period

of south africa, i recall that on 29 december 2023 south africa's filed in the registry of the court . an application instituting proceedings against israel. concerning alleged violations in the gaza strip of obligations under the convention on the prevention and punishment in the crime genocide to which i shall refer as the genocide convention for the convention of the application of south africa contained a request for the indication of provisional measures submitted with reference to article $41.00 of the statute and to articles $7374.75 of the rules of court. in accordance with the usual practice, i shall not read the introductory paragraphs of the order which set out the procedural history of the case. i feel also omit or summarize some other paragraphs . i shall therefore begin the reading of the order of paragraphs 13 in the order. the court begins by recalling the immediate context in which the present case came before it. it observes that on 7 october 2023, a mouse and other arm groups present in the gaza strip. carried out and attacking israel, killing more than 1200 person

madam president, i now proceed to read the measures requested by south africa. on the basis of the facts set forth above, south africa is a state party to the convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide, respectfully request the courts as matter of extreme agency, pending the course determination of this case on the merits. to indicate the following provisional measures in relation to the palestinian people as a group protected by the genocide convention. these measures are directly linked to the rights that form the subject matter of south africa's disputes with israel. one, the state of israel shall immediately suspend its military operations in and against gaza. two. "the state of israel shall ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be directed, supported or influenced by it, as well as any organizations and persons which may be subject to its control, direction or influence, take no steps in furtherance of the military operations referred to in point one above. three, "the republic of south africa and the state of

the w's diane hawker, in johannesburg told us more about south africa's motivation to bring is real to court, to well considering. so that's because history many into south african government believe that's of africa has a responsibility. not only to ensure that and human rights exist here with insight africa's board is but also to ensure that i'm others who are unable to speak up for themselves and actually have access to a fee of human rights. one will remember that sub effort cooks is a country that had a long period of segregation and a party. and it's only been 30 years since we've into the democratic dispensation. so the memory of that segregation and those human rights of, you know, violations against the majority of the people of south africa all fresh in the minds of many of africans. and also many of the politicians. and that was really much of the motivation force of africa taking this forward and saying that it would speak up on behalf of the palestinian people. and that he would raise the issues that it's raised in its application at the hague and saying that he does a sig

south africa requests this court to discharge that critical protective power, and south africa does so by virtue of its own clear right and solem obligations held towards the international community. as a whole, for the court to indicate one or more provisional measures, there must also be a link between the rights, the protection of which is sort, and the provisional measure being requested. such a link manifestly exists, we say between the rights claim by south africa in its application, and the provisional measures requested, which are directly linked to the rights which form the subject matter of the dispute. the provisional measures sort, therefore ensure the protection of rights, which might ultimately form the basis of the judgment in the exercise of the court's jurisdiction in due course. the rights at stake in these proceedings are certainly at least plausible, grounded in a possible interpretation of the convention, and as the convention imposes on parties the obligation to prevent and punish genocide under article one, and in doing so intends to protect groups and parts of g

the demonstration was also held in south africa's. down where people call for immediate cease fire in the besieg territory. south african protesters hailed their government for filing the lawsuit against israel at the top un court for committing genocide in gaza. mohammad is the director of center for muslim affairs. he joined us earlier from manchester with his take on the significance of the preliminary hearing on south africa's genocide law suit against israel at the international court. of justice, well, i think it's significant because um, it's the first attempt to try and prevent what's been happening in gaza, uh, western politicians and the media have tried to keep a lid on this and basically backed israel to the hilt, and here we of south africa uh using the international uh system to try and uh stop israel from doing what it's doing i for the court to adopt preliminary measures uh on the basis of intent to genocide and uh from that point of view i think it's significant but it's also significant because um you know this is perhaps one the most uh clear cut cases, i would say

amy: i want to go back to south africa, who has done this genocide filing. 008, i had the opportunity to speak with the south african anti-apartheid icon, the nobel peace laureate archbishop desmond tutu. i caught up with him at the south african vice consul's apartment in new york right before archbishop tutu received the global citizens circle award . i asked him about palestine. >> when you compare the occupation of gaza and the west bank to apartheid south africa? >> i speak about what i knew. most people will usually speak about -- a jew will usually speak about their experiences and maybe compare whatever it is that is happening with what happened in the days of the holocaust. for me, coming from south africa and going -- i mean, and looking at the checkpoints and the arrogance of those young soldiers, probably scared, maybe covering up their apprehension, there's no way in which i couldn't say -- of course, that is a truth. it reminds me -- it reminds me of the kind of experiences that we underwent. amy: that was archbishop desmond tutu. francis boyle,

of south africa. i recall that on 29 december 2023 south africa filed in the registry of the court. an application instituting proceedings against israel. concerning alleged violations in the gaza strip of obligations under the convention on the prevention and punishment and the crime genocide. to which i shall refer as the genocide convention for the convention. the application of south africa contained a request for the indication of provisional measures submitted with reference to article $41.00 of the statute and to articles of $7374.75 of the rules of court. in accordance with the usual practice, i shall not read the introductory paragraphs of the order which set out the procedural history of the case. i feel also omit or summarize some other paragraphs . i shall therefore begin the reading of the order a paragraph 13 in the order. the court begins by recalling the immediate context in which the present case came before it. it observes that on 7 october 2023, a mouse and other arm groups present in the gaza strip. carried out and attacking israel, killing more than 1200 persons

israel has accused south africa _ south africa yesterday.inted out that israel was one of the first signatories to this convention. this is all a matter of interpretation for thejudges. is all a matter of interpretation for the judges. yesterday, is all a matter of interpretation for thejudges. yesterday, we heard from south africa, referring to the military bombardments, the enforced displacement of people, the lack of humanitarian aid, starvation, dehydration, statements by senior israeli politicians which, south africa said, amounted to proof of genocidal intent. israel is arguing today this is an inaccurate interpretation of events on the ground. israel says it is acting in self—defence, under international humanitarian law. lucy, ijust want to spin the camera around you might be able to hear some of the crowds here outside the international court ofjustice in the hague. we arejust going to see if we can focus down on some of those flags which will be very familiar by now. what you can�*t see is just around the other side of the palestin

— israel and south africa are at a low. aelwithdrew its ambassador from pretoria immediately afterwards _ ambassador from pretoria immediately afterwards. then we have the national _ afterwards. then we have the national assembly of south africa voting _ national assembly of south africa voting to — national assembly of south africa voting to suspend all diplomatic relations— voting to suspend all diplomatic relations with israel, but the government has not yet responded to that. government has not yet responded to that a— government has not yet responded to that a big _ government has not yet responded to that. a big question is where the relationship between the two countries go from now but south africa _ countries go from now but south africa will— countries go from now but south africa will see this as a victory for them, _ africa will see this as a victory for them, that they took a lead, that they— for them, that they took a lead, that they brought the case, and that they have _ that they brought the case, and that th

let's take a listen to them talked about the lawsuit against israel filed by south africa.atching, so for us to be here in person was really important, i think the moon was quite strong, it was moving to see south africa opening the proceedings given their history, makes me emotional even think about it, because for people of my age we were brought up in the struggle against aparatite in south africa and to see them leading the charge. against israel was really pointing, so there's a lot writing on this, obviously the lives and well being of people in gaza first and foremost, but international law itself is on trial here, and i think the court has to know that, it's just it's shocking that they can talk about human rights or international law anywhere, and they have watched a genocide take place in gaza, they have back israel, we we flew israeli flags on the buildings in brussels, we had vigil for the children lost in israel, but not the children lost in gaza. the hypocrisy is horrific, and the politicians of europe have been exposed because they have been complices in the

the fact that you have expressed your willingness and readiness to join the complaint filed by south africaagainst the zionist regime. if you agree , before we discuss the matter further, my colleagues will prepare a report about the south african complaint. let's see the report. i will ask the questions. we are at your service. we came here to welcome the heroes who stood up against israel to support the palestinian people. what will be the court's decision? it is an international court with judges from different nationalities. expectation we are going to announce the result soon. thank you all for welcoming us. this is a wonderful experience for us. i am proud of our group that represented us. we must stand against oppression. we must tell the world about the cruelty of israel against the oppressed people of palestine. i will start the conversation with mr. hawaibzadeh. mr. dr. south africa has accused israel of genocide in his complaint against the zionist regime. what does the term genocide mean in international criminal law? hello to the legal community and to my colleagues. i am greet

to dispel south africa is absurd blood libel. how tragic, but the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro bono for anti jewish races. palestinians in garza and the rest of the world, we'd be looking closely at the colts response to south africa's request. a provisional routing could come within weeks, but any final judgement is expected to take is let's go 1st to our correspondence. it was the actual 10. joining me today from the hey, was here. tell us more about this 1st day of hearings at the international court of justice. a yes, hey somebody. hey, it's so right now the hearings are going on, south africa's making his case. and it is very, very important to remember that this is right now. the provision in metro, so these hearings are about the question whether the ice j, which is behind me, is going to order provision a mattress towards each. right or not. because effort has been asking for these kind of provision and measures. they have to ask for flu range and they go from us, can use royal

demonstration was also held in south africa's cape town, where people called for immediate ceasefire in the besieg territory. the south african protesters hailed their government for filing the lawsuit against israel at the top un court for committing genocide in gaza. they also called for the boycott of the israely regime as follow-up measure. well israel has launched fresh air strikes on the gaza strip on the 97th day of the genocidal war. the latest attacks targeted the city of raffa and the maghazi refugee camp in southern gaza. at least seven people were killed in the city of han yunis. nearly 23,500 palestinians have been killed and around 60,000 wounded since october the 7th. most of the casualties are women and children. more than three months of relentless israely air strikes and shutting have displaced most, almost the entire population of the besieed gaza strip. the displaced palestinians are struggling with the lack of basic supplies. let's take a listen to some of the people who described their terrible conditions in a refugee camp in raffa. we lost hope, we've been liste

a lot of states have been saying that they support either israel or south africa. so venture national communities watching this decision here. and it would create a certain pressure on each trio to also photo its d months. but at this stage is also possible that the court will not order each row to do anything and will follow what israel said, which is that the case should be rejected altogether. although if this needs to be seen, we will know very soon and the court will or the 17 got just entered into the room and give that decision on the provision emetrius what they're saying. and then it had but have the consequences that i just laid out. so we just see the a live pictures there. but right now, of the court room we have to mention, and this you haven't, you mentioned that this is now going to be a process over a number of years. this is merely just the 1st step, and you just walk us through what we will be seeing transpire now over the years. so this is the 1st step. it's a crash of provision mattress or not. and then if the case would go on and to it's so cal

that the nobel peace prize be given to south africa. in response to a message that linked the killing of women and children in gaza to the war between tel aviv and hamas , colombia emphasized that their killing was done by the direct order of netanyahu and he must be held accountable for these crimes. at the same time, 250 spanish lawyers signed the letter. o from their own government they wanted to join the case of south africa's complaint in the international court of justice . south africa's complaint against the zionist regime's genocide was raised in this body last thursday and friday , and now, as i announced at the beginning of the program, it will be hosted by mr. behnam habibzadeh. lawyers, regarding the fact that you expressed your desire and readiness to join the complaint filed by south africa against the zionist regime, if you agree, before we discuss the matter further, my colleagues will prepare a report about the complaint of south africa , and i will see the report. lawyers or jurists are the last to decide this case to

again, fundamentally, the claim brought by south africa here is the claim of genocide. ere is simply no argument that self-defense is a justification for a genocide. the south african team has laid out the argument showing intent and also the underlying act. everything else is essentially a distraction. amy: the biden administration is due in federal court later this month while israel faces charges of genocide at the hague yesterday and today. in a case you are working on with ccr, you're taking it right to president biden. explain the theory of your case and what exactly you expect to happen. is there any connection between that case and the u.s. federal court and what we're seeing right now at the u.n.'s highest court, the world court? >> i could not hear the full question but i think you're asking about the case at the center for constitutional rights brought against president biden, secretary of state blinken, and secretary of defense austin and california federal court raising failure in their duty to prevent genocide and complicity in genocide argument. that case

south africa. some lawyers have asked the court phone urgent injunction saying in their words, the world is watching in horror. that's how genocide and god is unfolding as we speak. nothing. it can ever justify genocide, no matter what some individuals within the group of palestinians, a ghost of may have done no matter how great the threat to his regular citizens might the genocidal attacks on the whole of garza, the whole of its population with the intent of destroying them cannot be justified genocide case will possibly take us to finalize and people in gaza. don't have the luxury to wait. an unprecedented case here at the pace palace in the hague. and that will be for as a state laid out such a details. expensive and gruesome genocide case in front of the international court of justice. south africa has made a compelling argument that the world's highest court tooth or israel to stop its military campaign in gaza as soon as possible. urgent injunctions by the international court of justice of b

to dispel south africa is absurd blood libel. how tragic, but the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro bono for anti jewish, racist palestinians in garza and the rest of the well, we'd be looking closely at the quotes response to south africa's request. a provisional routing could come within weeks, but any final judgement is expected to take years. so why is it that we're seeing south africa spring? this case is our course on it. diane hawk are in johannesburg. most of africa believes it has. there's responsibility for a number of reasons. the 1st being that it is a signatory to the a genocide convention any joint that convention in 1994 just shortly off the sub africa obtained its own a democratic state. and the 2nd reason that the south african government has as put forward is that because own cost of having lived through segregation and discrimination under the apartheid state. and so the african believes that there is an affinity between what happened to south africa and what is happening

francis molloy, the respected ambassador of south africa. mr. ambassador, what is your opinion of the court process, how optimistic are you that you can get a vote in the hague court in favor of the palestinian people and to stop this genocide. we are very optimistic. because we think our case and in fact our arguments are very strong and solid. we react we received very good news and legal experts around the world actually agree with us that this case. do it because the evidence we had and presented was not really defensible in any way and israel has committed genocide according to paragraph d of the geneva convention . it is strong enough that from now on i mean from now on we can hope that the verdict will be issued in about 10 days and we hope that the best possible verdict will be issued, so we are optimistic, yes, i am very optimistic now. let's consider the bad scenario of the story, during this period witness inaction and inefficiency. but the case that we have is moving forward with strength and has not had any special defense against i

south africa lays out its case for special measure, special must messrs. and an accusation of genocide against israel. no south african lawyer, adela, how she started pleading the government's case against as well as the i c. j. she said no one in gauze respect for me as well as will not even new bones. so africa contends that is written has transgressed article to of the convention by committing actions that full within the definition of genocide of the actions show a systematic pattern of conduct from which genocide can be input. israel has killed an unparalleled and done president, a number of civilians with the full knowledge of how many cillian civilian lives. each bomb will take more than 1800 families to send you and families and gaza have lost multiple family members and hundreds of multi generally generational families have been wiped out with no remaining survivors. the husband, the speaking, the, the i, c, j. let's bring in all senior political unless mom push already join us here on the 2nd you are listening. and of course, with me, my one south

how would that protect the rights the south africa claims? a similarly power prophecy of this measure? 6, the quotes ruling, the damage to buildings in military operations, presumably even when wolf alonda, international humanitarian law, amount to the destruction of palestinian life and god. so overall paragraphs. you just see if this measure read together with paragraph. see if the 3rd measure sake, the quotes rolling on the merits that are in fact, you ation close the car and humanitarian situation and damage the buildings all amount to deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life within the meaning of optical to see if the convention the reality is that the conflict and the humanitarian situation cannot be resolved during the night. this provisional measure seems designed to ensure that israel will be in breach office, as soon as it has made its sole purpose, seems to be to purchase the merits not to preserve rights on an interim basis for it should also not be drawn to the 6 requested measure it incorporates 2 separate meshes.

, i'd foisted south africa. i'd voiced its concerns in the security council on didn't public statements, proof of on what's the other side of the mouth. so should the international criminal code for that point? you says it became clear, there was a series dispute between the 2 states. the court house emphasized, in the case of statements made by one state in a motor latrell for him. the court must give particular attention into alia to the contents of a parting statement, until the identity of the intended address sees in order to determine whether that statements, together with any reactions to show that the policies before it's held to clearly opposite to use. so 5 for close actions where is sufficient? indeed, in the marshall islands cases, the cold, restarting, specifically to statements made at the conference. notice that it did not call for a specific reaction by the u. k. this no opposition of use company inside from the absence of any such reaction, specific reaction. it is less disingenuous for professo

ronald lamola, minister of justice of the republic of south africa to make south africa's substantive opening remarks. i thank the agent of south africa for his statement and i now invite the minister of justice and correctional services for the republic of south africa, his excellency mr. ronald lamola to take the floor. you have the floor, excellency. thank you, madam president, and distinguished members of the court, it is an honor for me to stand here in front of you on behalf of the republic of south africa on this exceptional case. in extending our rends across the the miles to the people of palestine, we do so in full knowledge that we are part of humanity that is at one. these were the words of our founding president nelson mandela. this is the spirit in which south africa acceded to the convention on the prevention and punishment of crime of genocide in 1998. this is the spirit in which you approach this court. as a contracting party to the convention, this is a commitment to owe to the people of palestine and israelits alike. as previously mentioned, the violence and the des

i'm so proud of south africa versus i will say, i did best times for south africa for africa, for the ward. because south africa talk out east next. on a more route issue, my de beth, my della will be give you some. so wherever he is now, then yes, this is the nation that i left behind. because when q story ounce rights in the history of these times this war in gaza believes me is probably the one that going to use to judge or love thoughts on south africa will get a good mation. so i'm very proud of south africa, adaptive task blade. what i have on this car, on demand daylight roll in the water south africa made that narrow definition of genocide. you know, it's just such a narrow issue that is where i imagine for it's they do both the deal hold on. vince jumped on the same breath as they made that present dition as to why watts is rhodes. jerry fits the definition of a genocide on deal to hunt. when do is released, the y roughly or low budget is not talking about what the mosque date on that but that is domestic. non roy's very glare varies. no, just if it gets under rules to guided

and joining us from johannesburg, south africa, kaajal ramjathan-keogh, a south african human rights wyer. directs the africa program of the international commission of jurists, which is dedicated to defending human rights and the rule of law worldwide. we welcome you both to democracy now! let's begin in south africa with kaajal ramjathan-keogh. if you could talk about the significance of today's hearing that finished just before we went to air, what is the international court of justice? how unusual is it to bring a kind of case like this? if you could take it from there. >> hi, everybody. talk about the hearing in international court of justice, the international court of justice is a world court which adjudicates issues and cases between states. it is different from the in that way where the icj -- the icc would prosecute individuals on international criminal concerns, the international court of justice only deals with issues between state parties. this is the reason why south africa has filed this case before the international court of justice. it was a pretty remarkable hearing.

what did south africa say? next , the zionist regime wants to start with the case that south africa raised in court. well, yesterday and today, processing the same request to issue an order. it was temporary, it started with the hearing, in fact , south africa's defenses and evidence, south africa has entered this story strongly. the complaint that he sent is also a very well-reasoned and detailed complaint. the united nations means the special rapporteurs of the united nations, the commissions of inquiry of the united nations, the secretary general of the united nations, in this sense, these references are very good, and the evidences that he presented in yesterday's meeting were actually divided into two categories, one is evidence. actually do you know what is happening on the floor of the square in gaza? genocide. it means the physical destruction and killing of the members of this group of palestinian people in the north of gaza, insisting that more than 23,000 people were actually killed, most of them chi

to dispel south africa is absurd blood libel. how tragic. but the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro bono for anti jewish races. palestinians in garza and the rest of the world, we'd be looking closely at the quotes response to south africa's request. a provisional routing could come within weeks, but any final judgement is expected to take is kathleen. paul is an associate professor of law at the university of cape town. she's also an expert on international organizations and the interface between law and politics. in the international arena. i spoke to her earlier and asked if she thinks that south africa has a convincing case here. good afternoon. yes, i have been following the proceedings, and i will survey the full page application that for the african center and in advance. and i think it makes an extremely strong case and, and certainly the legal argument this morning was pub, or each member of a very impressive, a legal team dealt with each aspect that had to be proven before south africa can ge

maybe, how do you think south africa play that it's case the argument that it made on? i know because i, i so you, you'll, you'll, to be cold and treat same on x, u, x is on x. you were particularly impressed with the arguments put forward by the irish lawyer. believe me, girl, a representing south africa once you the needs of what the present to in the court was the very complaint the case if that ever has been why for issuing the missiles because she saw it as usual. good menacingly at how urgent and how the situation is and what the consequences for not visually prism is would it be on the one now the she also sort of is a long because of just buying because it says that basically mandates the cold in in action obviously the message and sure issues were some, as was because when the pot from the appliances phones and that will pull the code fully, they just the machine because on with undermine the integrity of international law . so the main issues that we have faced in the last 3 months is of this is the policy off many apologize for that. that was the name of the

to dispel south africa is absurd blood libel. how tragic, but the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro bono for anti jewish, racist palestinians in garza and the rest of the world. we'd be looking closely at the quotes response to south africa's request. a provisional routing could come within weeks. but any final judgement is expected to take years or course bonnet was the schultz and told me more about today's proceedings at the hague. yes sir, here in the hague, we have for today from south africa. and what is important to say is we have heard that out. so as africa is bringing forward claims or allegations of genocide against israel, they're saying that each read has reached the genocide convention. but today the hearings were not about this, it was not about the marriage of the case, but it was about the question whether the court should order provision or mattress or not. so if africa has requested provision or metro, so these provision and mattress all for example, if they do use ray of

then after that, the lawyer representing south africa made the following points on israel's genocidal intent, that uh hamas is october. operation cannot be used by israel as a pretext to justify genocide in gaza, the south african lawyer also said that israeli authorities have openly dehumanized palestinians in gaza. israeli troops openly say there are no innocent civilians in gaza and that israel's political leaders, military commanders and persons holding official positions of systematically and in explicit terms declared their genocidal intent. the agen side of rhetoric is common place within the israeli kenness and connesset members have repeatedly called for gaza to be wiped out, flattened, erased and crushed. so those were the comments uh from the uh south african lawyer uh who was listing the genocidal intent of the uh israelis uh, i believe we now have mr. jahing. muhammad director of center for muslim affairs who's joining us from manchester uh to give us some insight on this uh preliminary hearing that's uh taking place with regards to the genocide case brought against israe

urgent as south africa has this private injunction. so what they asking the court has now to very quickly decide on this order to ask is proud to order as well to stop whatever it's doing the military operation at the moment in gosh, i'm also stop the mass displacement stop the pricing and guidance of food shelter water, a health care, and also a stop destroying palestinian life in general of its culture, its histories, its memories, its future. it says that we brought out light outlines case and, and historians who have been following the i c, j for many, many years. so it is the most detail a most to a gruesome case so far. if you compare with the previous genocide cases, of course you've seen here cases against me on my we have seen cases against russia . so this is a very strong case. they say, and we are waiting now for a press conference by the south african delegation. administer of justice is about to speak here behind me, but also other members of the delegation and the also a furnace here expected. for example, a member of th

this is a case brought by south africa against israel with south africa accusing israel with south africarael of committing genocide. in its action in gaza. of course, that military action by israel since the hamas attacks of the 7th of october. we are debating hearing to start in italy and in the justices will issue their provisional ruling, potentially at some point —— imminently. we will continue following with this story. jeremy ballin, our international editor is with me. ——jeremy bowen. you mention that a proper reading are takers on the two years? yes. mention that a proper reading are takers on the two years?- mention that a proper reading are takers on the two years? yes, it is a lona takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process- — takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process. it— takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process. it is— takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process. it is not _ takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process. it is not a - takers on the two years? yes, it is a long process. it is not a court - a long process. it is not a cou

what under find state is a political scientist on form, a member of the national assembly of south africa. he says, israel will find it difficult to countess of africa's arguments in the case festival. i should say that i think the rebuttals both from the united states, particularly from the is ray. the state have been critics to put it mildly, these really response which was effectively to bad miles south africa to cole, south africa, the legal um. how much and an agent of uranium republic is actually quite embarrassing. and what that suggests to me is that is rarely is going to find it incredibly difficult to respond to meaningfully to south africa is quite extraordinary submission, extraordinary in its detail, in this clarity, in this legal argument and its impact. i would imagine that tomorrow the israel will attempt to argue self defense. but i would the justices is experienced as those on the i, c, j. well, obviously respond to that in the knowledge that self defense is simply not the defense in terms of international will of low foreign occupying power for its minutes reactions in