— south africa? while, once these announcements _ south africa?ce these announcements are declared - south africa? while, once these announcements are declared as| south africa? while, once these i announcements are declared as we expect them to be any moment now, it sets off a timeframe. there has to be the first sitting of parliament within 14 days, and at first sitting, the president of south africa will be elected by members of parliament, so what we will have here today is also the allocation of seats to different parties which will give us a sense of who will constitute the parliament and unfortunately the anc will not have enough mps in parliament to elect presidents cyril ramaphosa once again as president of south africa so that means we are now going through a process over the next two weeks of horse trading negotiations between different parties for the anc to make up those numbers crucially and parliament in order to not only elect the president but also to carry out government business. also to carry out government business-— also to c

here in south africa's square mile, international investors and businesses, many of them listed here burg stock exchange, watching closely. so there you go. that's what economic dysfunction means with millions of south africans. butjust how disruptive is it to big business? to find out, i have been catching up with the boss of one of the country's most influential business groups, business leadership south africa. a real pleasure having you on the show. let me start with this, because your membership include some of the biggest companies in south africa, both local names as well as some big foreign companies like anglo—american and amazon. i guess the question is, what are the most important changes that they all want to see from the new government? there is a lot that business would like to see in this country. i think some of those in the main relate to the trading environment. 0ur trading environment is not conducive at the moment. and when you look at it, it is really a function of the network industries. you've got four network industries in this country. three of them are dysfun

as much as south africa is very strategic in the african continent, we are not the only game in town.eeing east africa eating south africa's breakfast, you know. and it becomes difficult because, once investors leave, they leave. and when they land somewhere else, it's normally a long—term commitment. but we do hope, you know, that because of the strategic nature of the south african economy, because of the size of our domestic market, because of all those, uh, strengths, because of the rule of law that we have in this country, we really hope that, once we get our house in order, then we will start to see, erm, investment trickling in. busi, the credit rating agency moody's, it's actually warned that a coalition government is likely to make it difficult to run the economy so, well, do you agree with that? or do you think that having the anc work with other parties just might be, well, what's actually needed to give the economy the jolt that it clearly needs? i actually believe that that is what is actually needed. you know, i don't think that they can continue having total control. i

. _ meeting soon such as rise south africa. and — meeting soon such as rise south africa, and the ancn imagine that within the anc and the other political parties. — the anc and the other political parties, they will be a need for internat— parties, they will be a need for internal accountability and to check whether— internal accountability and to check whether someone will have responsibility and what that responsibility and what that responsibility looks like and that is why— responsibility looks like and that is why some people still ask and question— is why some people still ask and question whether cyril ramaphosa will survive that's review within his party— will survive that's review within his party stop— will survive that's review within his - sto_ , . �* , his party stop yes, we haven't seen them out in — his party stop yes, we haven't seen them out in public _ his party stop yes, we haven't seen them out in public since _ his party stop yes, we haven't seen | them out in public since wednesday and he stayed behind and this was his first speech and how do you assess his posi

,... i intermediate south africa,... 1 should command south intermediate south africa,... i should commandean that went off basically without a hitch without a sense that avril was not being included, that is not always the case on the continent and in the region, so that's a commendable thing. i believe as somebody who just loves that country there is not anything wrong without africa, that we have to cure it, with... their enterprising and people and reformers within the anc and other political parties who i think will set the government right again. it focused on economic disparities in that country. we focused on economic disparities in that country-— that country. we will see how this shakes out- _ that country. we will see how this shakes out. we _ that country. we will see how this shakes out. we are _ that country. we will see how this shakes out. we are expecting - that country. we will see how this shakes out. we are expecting the | shakes out. we are expecting the official results to be announced on sunday. patrick gaspard, former ambassador to south africa, thank you very much.

i spoke to the former us ambassador to south africa. almost 100% in, it looks likely to be a very big disappointment for the anc. it is an extraordinary watershed moment for south africa and most especially for the anc that has maintained a majority in an unbroken line for three decades now. a watershed moment but also a moment of reckoning. there are tens of millions of young people in the country called the bourne free generation, born after 1994 and the end of a partake. they feel their country underwent a political transformation but not an economic one and they feel they have been on the outside looking in. in reality they have been on the outside looking in. by one measure, the world bank called south africa the most unequal society in the world, with 10% of the population holding 71% of the wealth, while the bottom 60% holding just 7% of assets. that's the fundamental dynamic at play for why the anc has tumbled out of its majority. you think it is the younger generation in south africa that is likely behind a watershed moment, as

be cured by everything that's right in south africa.nary enterprising young people, and reformers within the anc and other political parties, who will set the government right again. focusing on economic disparities in that country. two key right—wing figures in israel's government are threatening to leave their posts if prime minister benjamin netanyahu agrees to a peace proposal announced by president biden. israel's national security minister, itamar ben—gvir, says any deal that results in a ceasefire before hamas is destroyed will be a victory for terrorism. israel's finance minister also opposes any truce before hamas is wiped out. the peace proposals are backed by the israeli opposition and mediating countries. hamas also reacted positively to the plans. the united states, egypt, and qatar released a joint statement on saturday urging the two sides to reach an agreement. the uk's foreign secretary, lord cameron, told the bbc his thoughts on the deal. i think what the deal contains is a staged process for the release of hostages in

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so he figured it would be better to not take the boat all the way to south africa. as soon as he saw land, which was at the time portuguese, east africa, mozambique, he got off jumped off into the shark infested waters and swam to the shore where he ended up in portuguese africa, in which he could go through the jungle into going into south africa without crossing at a border. and so he know what would have saved him a lot of trouble if he had realized the the british had won the boer war. but that's the importance of news then of course you know. yeah. rana's question to me is, you know, because i my my fascinating is that i didn't know anybody in my family could swim. and he was wondering whether that's still the case. yeah. yeah. you know, so you but these are small acts of courage. i mean, yeah, that was a big, big other thing with the the sharks that only tell you that that i'm not getting to that yet, but moving immigrating is tough. yeah right. i think we have to remember that as the conversation immigration in this country gets tainted the way it has, it is i

. will be really important for south africa today-— africa today.t is also going to be really important— africa today. and it is also going to be really importantjust - africa today. and it is also going to be really importantjust to - to be really importantjust to understand where this places the anc because as you say, they will need to get into conversations with the other parties, but we know that jacob zuma, the ex—presidentjacob zuma's party did much better—than—expected, and they will not go into talks with president ramaphosa how do you square that circle? w , . circle? exactly. the current president — circle? exactly. the current president and _ circle? exactly. the current president and the - circle? exactly. the current president and the former . circle? exactly. the current - president and the former president are at loggerheads. the former presidentjacob zuma accuses are at loggerheads. the former president jacob zuma accuses cyril ramaphosa of removing him from office and taking over as president office and taking over as president of

now that old joining us from south africa, we have in johannesburg, pauline backs africa program, deputy director of the international crisis group in pretoria. lucky you must, a boiler, c o of the sink foundation. and then get back in the east and cape provence, on gamma, and tim to lecture and political analyst at nelson mandela university. well, welcome to all if i could stop then with pauline. so 1st of all, how much of a seismic shift is this pauline? what we've seen in, in friday's parliamentary session with, for the 1st time, one policy does not have the allow me majority. yes, absolutely. is the democracy. i would like to know the size of a government just nationally used before actually between 19941997. well, so the guy from the party was part of the dogs. so what we're looking at today is accomplishing does not mean there's a coalition. it's a government national, you can see and it has the partridge now and some smaller parties may join. so very interesting to see how that's gonna work out something foley and it's a bit different from 1994 because of the number of seats. the

she was and also now to return to south africa from a trip room can you from i was excluded from south africa while i was in germany, it was a good story and then it goes from far and the don't know, it was only allowed to go back for one night to go to look in to say good bye to my parents. this is when my son was 2 and a half or 3 months old, hired time oriented, turbulent years followed. she lived in london and southern rendition today simply, they say getting expelled from this country to the african never let go. and her son, sasha, was always with as long as she was easy for me to go to a village with a child and get interviews to come. when, if i hadn't had a child with me, it wouldn't have been so easy as i have status. it is a woman without a child has nothing as doctors and pro or he can. this is an issue between 1975 and 78 who device lived in germany. once again working in the africa department of dodge, developed in cologne. as in africa. she was often the only woman in the job. for example, in this german t p program from 1976 in the country, but i understand about that.

she then experienced anti semitism 1st and again in 1930 south africa. she also witnessed a pa side. this is from is unfortunately this was my experience from day one. so i knew what my attitude towards this country, my interest in them to be. some of these who defies, became a journalist and an important voice and the find the african independence. she interviewed nelson mandela, metro. but to me, gobby and was friends with rights and 19 go to my who received the nobel prize for literature in 1991 who device knew them all. she's a witness to a century of history. shortly before have 100 bust day. we visited in her new home in denmark, shapes through how autobiography, which was published on my 30 years ago. the memories come flooding back, beginning with her childhood in southern german franconia, with her parents. an older system ma got. this is m doff as, as the only jewish child in the village school had a wonderful time with many friends, mostly girlfriend, learned, and interest. and jason, this came to an abrupt end when the nazi ceased pallet in j

the deluxe or commission of south africa, declasse. the results of the, of the 2024 national and provincial elections as free and fair for me. the end of the election period and the start of a new era in south africa. an era of coalition government at national level, while the ruling african national congress has secured more votes, they needs rivals, it doesn't have the majority to lead the country on its own. we have what this election has made plain is that the people of south africa expect to their lead us to work together to meet the needs. they expect the parties for which they have voted to find to come on gong to overcome their differences, to act and work together for the good of every one political parties. we'll spend the next few days discussing potential coalition agreements, meaning recent photos will have to become fost frames. we've heard about to, to scenarios in that either in c, d, i s b as the most favorable one in terms of the, of stabilizing the country and stabilizing markets. and we've heard about the a and c s

and he said they were looking for white people in south africa. and he said he would vouch for us. went into the fruit and so my father was able to emigrate and 1933 is. but right to book the on deck onto my thoughts are brand are i still respond to the situation in germany. deterioration rapidly the newer and the gray slows were proclaimed and 1935 in south africa to angie semitism was on the rise, and the extreme right was strong. shortly before jewish immigration was made almost impossible, boot bison have family received the necessary papers to ship. they sailed on was one of the last to take the jews to south africa, gold and system. i got soon realize those that they were not welcome in the new homeland was on disability for now i have to say that we went from one anti submitted country to another. i went to a very poor school in a poor district on was who i could feel that i wasn't accepted by my classmates except for one funding. and that was the same reason as in germany for the sofa and is just this. this said the groomed law, the endors

i think for the meantime. _ south africa? i think for the meantime, south _ south africa? uth africans l south africa? i think for the l meantime, south africans are south africa? i think for the - meantime, south africans are really watching this process eagerly, they anticipate that it will be continuous conversations between the anc and the other opposition parties, they are watching to see what kind of alliances can form, but also, crucially, they're looking to see how their politicians handle this delicate process. a lot of south africans say their vote was really a demand for more accountability, more responsibility, from their politicians, rhetoric had been quite populist here, but they wanted he that their politicians and leaders that they have elected are handling this process delicately, and the government that is then formed will be stable and will act in the interest of south africans. remember, their key economic challenges in this country, high unemployment, rolling power cuts, and water cuts as well, shortages. so, south africans know this is a crucial moment

the negotiations _ government in south africa?d texting going on now and it is— phone calls and texting going on now and it is a _ phone calls and texting going on now and it is a very intricate and much more _ and it is a very intricate and much more complex way of trying to set up a coalition— more complex way of trying to set up a coalition government because some of the _ a coalition government because some of the deals— a coalition government because some of the deals he has to make how to happen— of the deals he has to make how to happen at— of the deals he has to make how to happen at provincial level or even at a iocai— happen at provincial level or even at a local government level, where someone _ at a local government level, where someone says, i will come to be in your— someone says, i will come to be in your government, to show you up in pariiament— your government, to show you up in parliament and increase your parliamentary votes, but i also want to be _ parliamentary votes, but i also want to be the _ parliamentary

and how important is that for south africa's economy?. now, everybody has a particular perspective in south africa, and the trade unions in particular do not like the da's economic policy because we believe it's necessary to reign back the public sector wage bill. we need to rein back the strength of the trade unions in our economy. if economy doesn't grow, you don't have tax revenue and you're unable to deliver services. i have lots of discussions with the minister of finance and we both agree we have a growth problem. the anc does not believe that it has a spending problem, which it does do. so the choices need to be made because if we don't do that, what's going to happen is what you said. we'd end up with the bailout. we'll end up with an economy that doesn't grow. and of course, heaven forbid we might end up with violence that nobody wants. you can see more you can see more of you can see more of that interview and find out about the struggles of south africa's economy. it's available this weekend here on bbc news. elon musk space x

there was an entire community in south africa coast. he's got most of the way to commit to refuse to participate in fully the voting process. and that i can then towards that the reason for the protest was that we have had a needs training since 1996 that has not been resolved. so i think one of the things that is very interesting about this, you mentioned that even spoken about, you know, he's been requiring into the emergency about the lack of the, you know, the control piece of transformation. and particularly as it relates to the lend question. but the ends, the government pays over the last that he has not been able to, to, to resolve, but it over to occur even which ones the, i followed today, they the issue of the incoming. but i mean, i think i'm to understand the in k, which is what the m k and the emergence of the if it's an all other parties that had previously been out of, you know, the kind of trouble did the in see these to speak about the intent of the failure of internal um the results of the internal conflict within the

how historic is this election for south africa? goad this election for south africa?this election for south africa? good evening, catherine, _ this election for south africa? good evening, catherine, yes, _ this election for south africa? good evening, catherine, yes, this is a watershed — evening, catherine, yes, this is a watershed election for us. we have had 30 _ watershed election for us. we have had 30 years of party dominance and political— had 30 years of party dominance and political dynamics are going to change — political dynamics are going to change whatever in south africa. the anc, _ change whatever in south africa. the anc, to _ change whatever in south africa. the anc, to lose its dominance, it also means— anc, to lose its dominance, it also means a _ anc, to lose its dominance, it also means a shift in terms of decision—making, the locus moves from _ decision—making, the locus moves from the _ decision—making, the locus moves from the anc and their headquarters into parliament and negotiated and moderated decision—making. as into parliament and negoti

it's been and remarkable as an irishman in orland, we've seen huge support for south africa stand. um 1st question in that regard would be, you know, what sort of support among the south african people a d. c for it, for your stand for what i would consider many would consider justice in, in palestine. and the 2nd part of the question would be, what is a weird and what is the success in the c i, c, j for south africa. slow in terms of support. i have not had any negative action toward me with respect to the question of the people of palestine. it has been scientist, organizations in my country that have expressed the position to the position that our government has adopted. and we're not surprised because they support israel, whatever israel does, but it's important to stress that this is molten religious a my to so it's not about muslims and none muslims. this is a human rights issue. no one should reach international role in the manner that israel is doing. no one should preach international humanitarian law in the manner that israel is doing. you cannot have such a large scale ki

south africa now faces weeks of turbulent coalition talks. plett usher, bbc news, johannesburg. for more, i spoke to managing editor for semafor africa, alexis akwagyiram. it's a watershed moment for 62 million south africans and mostly for the anc who has managed a majority for three decades now. a watershed moment but also a moment of reckoning. tens of millions of young people in the country called the bourne free generation, born after 1994 and the end of apartheid, and they felt the country went through a political transformation but not an economic one. they have been on the outside looking in. the world bank has called south africa the most unequal society in the world. 10% of the population holding 71% of the wealth, while the bottom 60% holding just 7% of assets. that's the fundamental dynamics as to why the anc has tumbled out of majority. 50 as to why the anc has tumbled out of majority.— out of ma'ority. so you think the out of majority. 50 you think the younger _ out of majority. 50 you think the younger generation - out of major

the, the, there's a dw news line from berlin, a call for unity, south africa's a in st. louis just on challenge. griffin power. present the real rebel forces as the party, which was since the end of apartheid except the peoples for it. it was a search for coalition partners, begins and mexico prepares for its 1st woman president and election, overshadowed by drug cartel and violence, and the murderers of thousands of the candidates look at the latest line from the capital. and here in germany, heavy rains printer alliance live that the rails an express train carrying hundreds of passengers. one firefighter dies trying to rescue surrender and homeowners. the i'm here until berlin, thank you very much for joining us. south africans, president serial, run the force that has called on political parties to find common ground as the ruling african national congress. last is longstanding majority. the party has dominated south africa since the end of apartheid, but must now seek new coalition partners. some of those rival parties say that they will only deal with the agency fro

we turn our attention to south africa next.lition government — after it lost its parliamentary majority in the elections for the first time in 30 years. its secretary—general said his party had nothing to celebrate from the election but was not down and out. he denied underestimating the threat from the former president, jacob zuma. mr zuma's mk party got almost 15% of the vote and was a major factor in the anc�*s poor performance. the mk party has said it would only work in a coalition with the anc if president cyril ramaphosa stepped down. they said this demand was out of the question. here's some of what he said. the anc is committed to the creation of a government that reflects the anc is committed to the formation of that reflects the will of the people, that is stable and that is open to govern effectively. the anc is committed to pursue a path of fundamental social and economic change, for which it has received a firm mandate. over the next few days, the anc will be in discussions the anc will be having discussions withi

this is a party that is to the centre—right politics even south africa.india liberalisation of the economy. remember the anc is a left socialist party. they believe in some state support for individuals in order to be able to getjobs. so that is a real challenge for the anc. but there is then also potentially causes infighting within the anc. this is a large coalition of parties, interests, whether you move to the left or to the right good cause further fragmentation within the anc, so this is a tricky negotiation. it is possible to get the numbers, to set up a government within south africa but what are the repercussions for the anc going forward? it is already in a weak position. there will be blaming and infighting within the party that could further destabilise the anc. what about people you have been speaking to, the voters, what do they make of what has been happening and what will happen over the next couple of weeks while these talks take place?— couple of weeks while these talks take lace? . , ., ., take place? there was a real feeling that this

i know that you are there in south africa.e of those discussions behind the scenes. can you give us a sense of what those discussions between the two parties have been like? so, what we need to understand is that the anc has fallen below 50 to 40% for the first time. what it needs to do now is find common ground with a large section of the population. we would like to see a better economy, we would like to see a more effective set of government policies and we'd like to see some progress when it comes to resetting foreign policy and a range of other issues. and so, the discussion is a good one because, for the first time, the anc does need the cooperation of other parties. and so we need to see an early alignment of policies, and i think it's a very productive discussion. the attitude is good on the part of the anc, on the part of the democratic alliance, and the other parties as well. there's of course major divisions emerging that are new that we need to deal with in this country. critics of the democratic alliance have labe

south africa's economy, improve its energy situation and improve employment. it's a tough task ahead for these political parties, particularly because they have vastly different backgrounds and different ideological views. but they've agreed that they're going to make it work to ensure that south africa gets back to work, to the dose of g. 7 countries have concluded the main part of the summit and it to me and release the final declaration. it takes aim at russia and countries enabling multiples for against ukraine. president vladimir putin has promised to retaliate against of g 7 agreement to finance of $50000000000.00 loan to ukraine if use of interest on, on frozen russian assets. the luxury resort in southern italy square 7 of the world's most advanced economies are meeting to discuss security and economy. but outside the heavily guarded, closed door meetings, activists have an issue. they want to raise the climate for. we need the radical action right now. and this, we still end up in from government exposure, these items on the moon and we demand that no

ye: kasia, this is shaping up to be an historic day in south africa. 0f historic day in south africa.s country and today what we are expecting to hear is the final declaration of the results from wednesday's election by the election commission. the expectation is that for the first time in 30 years, the ruling african national congress party is going to lose its majority in parliament. what that means is that the system of politics here is expected to shift to one of coalitions, not simply having a majority dominant party. that changes dynamics here in south africa and as we have been hearing from the secretary—general of the anc, fikile mbalula, he says we have to start looking at how different models work around the world, for example, in europe, where many countries have coalition governments. now, what has happened is that the government in south africa has to make a decision quickly, within 1a days from today's announcement, on how it is going to govern within parliament. that is because on the first sitting that happens in 1a days, the parties have to elect a president. of cours

i n saying has controlled politics in south africa for 3 decades, but not anymore. the african national congress has lost this majority for the 1st time since taking power. so what's behind the civic, and how will that shape politics and the country? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program on tell mccray, it's a vote that's engine. suzy. g is a v i n c's dominance and south african politics. but it has dealt a blow to the african national congress angry and what they consider to be it's finally, it's a deal with a dot economy and poverty. now the policy will have to engage in tools with rival this to form a coalition government. so what concessions might make and what does a weekend and say mean to politics and the country. we will talk to a guest in just a moment that this, this report by a distant good foot historic plunge and support for the party empower for 30 years. the governing african national congress or amc had won a majority in every election since the end of apartheid. that is out. but on wednesday it got about 40 percent of his votes in

also coming up on the show, south africa opened a new political capital with a familiar leader. there over on of hosa is re elected president following a coalition agreement that sees his amc parties share power for the 1st time. the 1st victory euro 2024 goes to the house, the germany put on a dazzling display to peruse past scotland by one in the opening match the i'm going to richardson. thank you so much for watching. a summit on a piece in ukraine kicks off today in switzerland, bringing together more than 90 countries. ukraine's president will let him use westgate arrived into town of gordon short on friday evening. german chancellor, all actual french presidents and one of them are con and us vice president. cala harris will also attend the summit. aims to create unity around a peace plan. put forward by you pray, but russia is not invited and explained. backer china is not coming either. the conference is also serving to highlight divisions among the international community about the way forward in ukraine are all in together. we can stop the madness from moscow most mom

it's been a remarkable as an irishman in orland, we've seen shoot support for south africa stand. um 1st question in that regard would be, you know, what sort of support among the south african people a d. c for, for your stand for what i would consider many would consider justice in, in palestine on 2nd part of the question would be, what is a weird and what is the success in the c, c i c, j for south africa? well, in terms of support, i have not had any negative action toward me with respect to the question of the people of palestine. it has been scientist, organizations in my country that have expressed the position to the position that our government has adopted. and we're not surprised because they support israel, whatever is else as, but it's important to stress that this has lots of religious matta, so it's not about muslims, and none muslims. this is a human rights issue. no one should reach international role in the manner that israel is doing. no one should preach international humanitarian law in the manner that israel is doing. you cannot have such a large scale killing

coming soon on 20. accommodations the south africa. the 1st column in 3 section is held off to an election which changed the political landscape b i n c in full to chef power for the 1st time. i will be alliance with former opponents. what was lies ahead? this is inside store the hello and welcome to the show. i'm sammy's a. then the african national congress is galvan south africa since the end of apartheid in 1994. but the poverty of nelson mandela lost its sweeping majority last month's general election. it's now being forced to share power with political opponents of the days of co creation tools. so what challenges lie ahead to make this new partnership work and with anything change for south africans who are bringing on guessing the moment. but 1st, this report from laura on march 8 was crunch time, the south africans president 0, run the post. as parliament's convened on friday, he'd finalize the toyota film a coalition government of the days of torques. his african national congress has been the most popular policy for 3 decade

yeah. trade in get a lot of support from the trade union movement in south africa. so to be clear, you think the amc by maneuvering positioning and who knows what else will be able to somehow form some kind of coalition that keeps enough power on its side. so that the ideology of the country, the governance, or better yet the thinking that comes out of the hottest part doesn't flip is that what i'm hearing you say exactly, but there we go. that's not because a lot of people, but people that think they fear they back to us from the citizens. i'm from the general functions within the n c. quotes that they are based on the life of the democratic. alas, that's going to be seen as sitting out there with some individuals and that property of 2 associated properties. so most likely that's what is going to be in the in 6 out of 3 people. that's, that's amazing. and the fact that you have such a grasp of this and have been able to take us through it and, and help us here in the united states and around the world to understand something which seems so complex is really remark

i'm looking at south africa as a whole. b amc, the national congress has been the dominant party for most of both your lives and now they've suffered major losses. kimberly, how do you feel about the prospect of a multi party government to be honest, i would rather prefer that. i feel like i, i, i feel like i don't have an issue with it. i wouldn't want necessarily, and i don't want to bash anybody, but i wouldn't necessarily want in see to run on its own again. but i also wouldn't really want the a to run on its own. so i think for example, been having a clinician, i think would be good and it would challenge both parties to rather instead of constantly calling out each other's faults, then to rather work together towards making an actual change in the country. i think they both have the strengths and weaknesses and they could work together for the bit of the country. that's just interesting. points are less about what do you think this? all right, we're not going to a to it's a final answer yet. but in terms of a governme

but more importantly, it represents a victory for all the people of south africa. but for the african national congress, this little celebrates it, got just 40 percent of the vote for the 1st time in the city us since the end of a, par tate, losing its parliamentary majority a message for the party that it says it's a loud and clear despite is newly formed, i'm going to receive a party u m k. doing well at the polls, winning almost 15 percent of the vote. opponents and full of president of the a and c jacobs luma is not as accepting. he says the votes being raked, this is what he had to say ahead of the declaration of the final results. was we know, i guess we know in why we like to die while they are more than 500 objections and 24 recounts of plant. the commission says everything's above board and the recount won't change the poor the outcome. while the amc and other parties get on with negotiations to form a coalition government in case preparing legal action and sue must threats however, we plan the resistance the efforts. one of those questions, we can know wh

miller reports in the election commission headquarters in midland, south africa to san independence south africa's independent initial commission declares the election, free and fair in many ways that represents a victory for our democracy, a south africans. it also represents a victory of our constitutional order. busy more importantly, it represents a victory for all the people of south africa. but for the african national congress, this little celebrates it, got just 40 percent of the vote for the 1st time in the city us since the end of a, par tate, losing its parliamentary majority a message for the party that it says it's a loud and clear despite is newly formed, i'm going to receive a party u m k. doing well at the polls, winning almost 15 percent of the vote. opponents and full of presidents of the a and c jacobs luma is not as accepting. he says the votes being raked, this is what you had to say ahead of the declaration of the final results. people have approval. once we know what, i guess we know and why they like to go. well, they are more than $500.00 objections and $24.00 rec

n saying has controlled politics in south africa for 3 decades, but not anymore. the african national congress has lost this majority for the 1st time since taking power. so what's behind the civic? and how will that shape politics in the country? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program on tell mccray, it's a vote that's engine. suzy. g is a v i n c's dominance and south african politics. but it has dealt a blow to the african national congress.

south africa is a key olitical president. south africa is a key political player _ president.outh africa is a key l political player around the world. the world has been used to the anc being in power, and the policies it represents, what will there will be looking at a possible coalition government?— looking at a possible coalition government? looking at a possible coalition overnment? ., , , ., government? coalition govers bring a lot of instability _ government? coalition govers bring a lot of instability and _ government? coalition govers bring a lot of instability and there _ government? coalition govers bring a lot of instability and there will- government? coalition govers bring a lot of instability and there will be - lot of instability and there will be horse _ lot of instability and there will be horse trading around policy position. _ horse trading around policy position, particularly economic policy — position, particularly economic policy. right now the anc has options. — policy. right now the anc has options, you have options to the right— options, you have optio

the end of the election period and the start of a new era in south africa. an era of coalition government at national level to demand. while the ruling effort to national congress has secured more votes, when its rivals, it doesn't have the majority to lead the country on its own. we have what this election has made plain is that the people of south africa expect to their lead us to work together to meet the needs. they expect the parties for which they have voted to find a common ground to overcome their differences, to act and work together for the good of every one. political parties will spend the next few days discussing potential coalition agreements. meaning, recent photos will have to become fost frames we've heard about to, to scenarios in that is the n, c, d i a b as the most favorable one in terms of the, of stabilizing the country and stabilizing markets. and we've heard about the a and c s s i m k. but remember in case going to peak condition normal force. if you don't, if there's, if there's around the close of day, we don't talk it from becaus