over enough our it was about the economy and i think he wanted to say to south africans. there is a hope we can fix this if we work together i have a plan in fact i have several plans to seek to say to the south africans and in terms of what he meant with the milk metaphor is he speaking to the fact that south africans at this point in time there's a lot of disunity within the country. there is definitely a lot of disunity and it shows at several levels at one level it is as you know we have very few. incidents that go viral on the internet and people get very upset. at another american class because there is in this video which country and quite a high percentage of people living in poverty yeah so that is i'm not a source of of the lack of color he's in in society is also gender based because there is a lot of violence against women ok professor let's hold that thought because we're talking about the an equal society that is south africa at this point in time and we know that and issue has is looming over south africa right now let's hear from one of the people in leadi

high unemployment and what they consider government inaction to fight it the congress of south african trade unions called its members of the strike which increases the pressure on government the government of cyril ramaphosa as the country gears up for general elections in may south africa has a near record twenty seven percent of unemployment was the month with the mining sector in particular shedding jobs in recent years. is in cape town and joins us now ellis are these strikes just about high unemployment or against the government in particular general. well for a long time to have been kind of a general unhappiness with the government the name of the government party and see that they haven't done enough to dress unemployment issues that end inequality i think the main critique was mainly when jacob zuma with the president a year ago he was forced to step down his regime was corrupt and with a lot of mismanagement there was more hope that through our post of a current president would return to ties but we've still seen job losses namely in a mining sector and are still more job gr

i want to bring in professor to needle my lady now he's a south african political analyst based at the university of pretoria professor it's good to have you on the news africa perhaps start out professor by by telling us what was the overall message sort of a pulse ahead for south africans and perhaps make sense of the milk metaphor for us while you're at it i think at the center or through speech. was the whole load of. the economy really it was a speech apart the sort of quantum leap and what needs to be done to revive. it it was full of issues that you made today economy that didn't need to fall and that it can. be made to the result of the gene that allows people to come in so you can boost go on to lose in. a sector in the country and of course also a lot of options but. over there in a bar it was about the economy and i think he wanted to say so. there is a hope we can fix this if we work together i have a plan i have several plans he seemed to say to the south africans and in terms of what he meant what the milk metaphor is he's speaking to the fact that south africans of this

and in terms of what he meant with the milk metaphor is he speaking to the fact that south africans of this point in time there's a lot of disunity within the country. there is definitely a lot of disunity and it shows at several levels at one level it is as you know we have very few. incidents there that are go viral on the internet and people get very upset. and as i remember in class because there is in this video which country. quite a high percentage of people living in poverty yeah so that is i'm not a source of of the neck of core he's in in society is also gender based because there is a lot of violence against women ok professor let's hold that thought because we're talking about the an equal society that is south africa at this point in time and we know that the land issue has is looming over south africa right now let's hear from one of the people in leading the debate of land reform that led this party to our people what. kami. we are. six into if you follow the constitution to our law no expropriation often without compensation. but to pass it by or falls they killed ou

that's really the south african story. the dream is there, we all agree. bout south africa before i came here? exactly nothing as it turns out. but i think based on what i've seen is that if the world can get it right here, a country with a past like south africa's, if they can figure out how to make it work here for everybody, absorb all the people flooding in from all over africa, continue to make mandela's dream a reality, maybe there is hope for the rest of us. >>> a final battle for territory in its final days. u.s.-backed forces say they are nearing victory against isis in eastern syria. our correspondent on the ground near the front lines has the story. >>> more aid arrives from the united states amid the humanitarian crisis in venezuela. cnn is there in colombia as it's unloaded. >>> and police sources say evidence suggests an american actor orchestrated a hate crime against himself, and he's now reacting to that report. >> many stories ahead this hour. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. ghog you live

the south african government is saying that is exactly what it is doing by trying to change the regulationsuth africa, it is notjust the government, south africans have come out in huge numbers, particularly on social media to support semenya, including opposition parties that have been berating the government on local issues on the general elections. they have also lined up behind the government to support semenya, they believe she is being u nfa i rly semenya, they believe she is being unfairly targeted. ferrari have unveiled the car they hope will win them the formula one title for the first time in 10 years. they say it's not a revolution, but a development of last year's model, which came close to matching the mercedes but fell short after a series of errors by sebastian vettel, and the team. vettel is joined by charles leclerc this year, after his impressive debut season for sauber. i have always been looking at the red car, hoping to one day be in this car. so it is a very emotional day for me and i've also been part of the academy that has helped me massively to develop as a driver

economy slash for the south african credit rating and will it also help ramaphosa sway voters. well there was a help to keep the lights on i mean in a hospital we have seen that blackouts are in south africa that basically has come couldn't deliver the electricity any more so it is important that as they are obvious they are also to minimize the said this is not a bail out we're just supporting them and ask them need to retain the money back but it is important of course to at least not and so that becomes upset that they don't have electricity now also to get investors that she said the credit rating agencies have been very worried i mean as i finance and as well that they have to have very difficult talks with them and that he hopes and plans are and how will reassure at least their rating and agencies but the photos they have forced me want to hear from the minister or how dare i change and how their life will become better and he mentioned you know invest more money in that basic education and health but it's mainly jobs jobs jobs and that's a task that's still up or so the

about another posse coming in twenty five years into democracy so tonight is a missing to the south african people coming from the president he is supposed to be the statesman tonight but he is also the a.n.c. president isn't he and he is seeking reelection for the party and he is also africans to give them more time how much more time do they need nobody knows but zuma is gone we have a boss and now and the mistress of africans is we are a new party and the future will be different our christian right thank you as always great to get your perspective on that are of. our to germany back to germany actually a reason to trust watchdog is cracking down on facebook moving to restrict the social media giants ability to collect data in the country authorities say cannot gather information from third party sites without user account without user consent excuse me well more evidence that facebook's business model fifty four could be under sarette. it is a long awaited decision three years that's how long it took germany's federal cartel office to decide to clamp down on facebook's data collection t

on the power outages do real damage to the south african income of the economy it's in the teens like power company crippled by years of under-investment it infrastructure and billions of debts. and mismanagement isn't limited to south africa as several other african countries find themselves on a new e.u. blacklist of the world's most corrupt countries. this is business africa. as well thousands of south africans have been taking part in strikes and demonstrations to protest the country's high unemployment and what they consider government inaction to fight it the congress of south african trade unions called its members the strike which increases the pressure on government the government of cyril ramaphosa as the country gears up for general elections in may south africa has a near record twenty seven percent of unemployment was the month with the mining sector in particular shedding jobs in recent years. from girl is in cape town to enjoy joins us now alice are these strikes just about high unemployment or against the government.

it's such a huge headache for the south african government.use the utility eskom has 440 billion rand worth of debt guaranteed by the south african government. causing the country to be at risk of a serious credit rating downgrade. with the utility battling to supply electricity, should its financial issues worsen, this will obviously cause the supply to be even more intermittent and in turn negatively impact economic growth. and then of course making it less likely unemployment will start to make its way down. what tools do the south african government have to help eskom at this point?” the south african government have to help eskom at this point? i think there are quite a lot of tools available. 0bviously looking at operational and other issues, there are experts being brought in to improve the quality of supply at eskom to try and repair the damage. and then obviously looking to improve skills levels at eskom and dividing it into three separate culprits which could relieve pressure as well. looking at the finances themselves, the governmen

south african is still winchell gospel choir hits and that behind notes at the grammys will get reaction to the groups they bring me when. i'm christine window welcome to news africa i'm glad you're today in african leaders have gathered for the twenty nine hundred eighty years summit and this year the mass movement of people was the emphasis statistics from the united nations show sub-saharan africa hosts eighteen million forcibly displaced people that's more than a quarter of the world's refugees population now experts say the number is rising because of ongoing conflicts conflicts in countries like in south sudan somalia and now among the top countries hosting refugees in africa is kenya which is home to one of the biggest refugee camps in africa correspondent catherine on one visited kakuma camp where projects to empower refugees through a settlement scheme has been piloted. jennifer in the role fled south sudan in two thousand and sixteen with three of her six children now she lives here in ca it's part of the kakuma refugee camp in the remote and arid region of northern kenya. and

ever pulled off at the oscars is another writes respects to travel you know of for his joke to south africans that's of course where is an official language and this credit striven no for putting black history month back on track a reference to the african-american actor jesse small a who allegedly paid to have a bogus racist attack staged against him and stand accused of damaging race for the nations in the u.s. at a particularly sensitive time ok so we leave you now with pictures of one of africa's veteran jazz singers that's dorothy those involved in born south african passed away this weekend she was eighty three but the music of so called on to dutch will live on just as will the legacy and not many believe this but there is my canvas iconic song that's a classic she wrote that the next time i put out the song. the tapes are simply. with wonderful people and stories that make the game so special. for all truth. more than football online. and jam and live. at any time any place names. yet i don't like a song to sing along to you to come from super. interactive exercises. everything is onl

the south african government is saying that is exactly what it is doing by trying to change the regulationsd it is notjust the government, by the way, some africans have come out in huge numbers, particularly on social media, to support her, including opposition parties that have been berating the government on local issues ahead of this years general election. they have also lined up behind the government to support her. they believed she is being u nfa i rly her. they believed she is being unfairly targeted. just over two years ago british sprinterjames ellington was injured in a road accident alongside fellow sprinter nigel levine. the pair were riding on motorbikes when they were involved in a crash in tenerife. reports at the time suggested that ellington's injuries were "career ending", but he's made a remarkable recovery. you can watch a full report on ellington's progress on the one o clock news tomorrow, but here's a taster. all i can really remember is setting off and seeing headlights and the next thing, a loud bang, like a bomb went off. then i lifted my head and there was blood

stands ever pulled off at the oscars another writes respects to travel you know a for his joke to south africans that's of course with is an official language and this tweets credits trivino for putting black history month back on track a reference to the african-american actor jesse small a who allegedly paid to have a bogus racist attack staged against him and stand accused of damage and race relations in the u.s. at a particularly sensitive time ok so we leave you now with pictures of one of africa's veteran jazz singers that's dorothy. zimbabwean born south african postulate this weekend she was three but the music of so called on to dutch will live on just as will the legacy and not many believe this but nearly on my campus iconic song that's a passage she wrote back to you next time about. the song. a new summit and a new round of political poker. the two sides will have to overcome decades of hostility. stoked by an unpredictable us foreign policy machine and a family of dictators united by one obsession getting their own atomic bomb. the kim dynasty. the. next g.w. . bush divine using ki

stands ever pulled off at the oscars another writes respects to travel you know of for his joke to south africans that's of course which is an official language and this tweets credits trivino for putting black history month back on track a reference to the african-american actor. who allegedly paid to have a bogus racist attack staged against him and stand by to damage and race relations in the u.s. at a particularly sensitive time ok so we leave you now with pictures of one of africa's veteran jazz singers that's dorothy the zimbabwean born south african postulate this weekend she was eighty three but the music of so called i'm too dutch will live on just as will the legacy and not really believe this but then we have my kids iconic song that's a passage she wrote back to you next time i put out the song. or digital more years. for women for internet activists one mission the battle for freedom. against repression and filings they deployed the powers of social media. their messages are spreading like wildfire social media critical to the boat. on the streets the women who mourn the changing the

added to that excitement as you mentioned is the fact that i believe for the very first time the south african president actually attended the conference and spoke to the delegates there what's the significance. well soon home of course of the southern african presidents he is actually looking for my you know a lot of money when he came into power after jacob zuma i said he is looking for a hundred billion u.s. dollars and part of that he wants to use to revive the mining industry and not only go all the suffering all sort of latin street here is suffering and he needs the money for new job knowledge you stoop to to look for a new mindset is the fun relax there ations and also he was there basically to two men trusts that there has been a lack of trust between investors and separately you see a lot of labor unrest in some parts couple of heroes which has helped government hasn't helped that was a cyclist has taken so much as he was on the premises built trusts and to bring ellis just just it just to briefly because you mentioned all these problems is basically has a conference managed to solve

pulled off at the oscars and the other rights respects to travel you know of for his joke to south africans that's of course which is an official language and this tweets credits trivino for putting black history month back on track a reference there to the african-american actor jesse small a who allegedly paid to have a bogus racist attack staged against him and stand accused of damage and race relations in the u.s. at a particularly sensitive time ok so we leave you now with pictures of one of africa's veteran jazz singers that's dorothy. zimbabwean born south african pasta way this weekend she was eighty three but the music of so-called two dots will live on just as will the legacy and not many believe this but there is my canvas iconic song that she wrote that next time i put out. every journey begins with the first step and every language with the first word published in the. new coke is in germany to learn german why not with him it's simple online on your mobile and free to suffer from d w z e learning course speak german made. the players. table. stakes. in the game of money the co

a difficult situation south african businessman gupta has made his has had his arrest warrant canceled it was wanted for allegedly offering bribes in two thousand and fifteen minutes past the infamous south african family accused of having a corrupt relationship with the former president jacob zuma now what has more now from john is back. south african police have cancelled an arrest warrant for indian businessmen and jacob was issued nearly a year ago for corruption charges and his two brothers are accused of collaborating with former president jacob zuma and his family to steal hundreds of millions of dollars of south african public money things that the book has and zuma deny south africans awaited for years to see people being held to account for the corruption scandals of the zuma years and many here will be disappointed if they don't ultimately see people in court or people in jail they're also waiting to see if things would change since president several run oppose a took over from zuma about a year ago prosecutors say investigations are ongoing and it's possible that by droppin

we get their land back as black south africans and what our problems will be that's pushed the a.n.c. into a corner suddenly they see now has to talk lend when they talk to other africans because of africans say to them well why can't you get our land back for us so he has quite a play this balancing act the way he can sort of a peace people right now without outright saying we're going to take the lead without compensating some of those radical parties all morning all so this is him diplomatically saying look we've got some land as the stage and we're going to give that to homeless people to live in an urban area so it's a way of sort of managing expectations ican come out and say what the other parties are pushing him to say we're going to take this man without compensating people but he also needs to say something and that is that something that we heard from him ok kristie one month or more african just as always we appreciate your insights she's been. well here's some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world officials in the brazilian city of rio de ja

over one and a half million south africans live in townships like this. at the foot of mine tailings mountains. that itself it gets into our food we eat it this past week drink this but so that is why so many people here this is the silent killer this dust doesn't just make people vomit or cough several children in the neighborhood suffer from severe neurological disorders. or who you know for years you know. this. is six years old. she suffers from a paralyzing brain disease are you doing well lately however her family saying the tondo was born perfectly healthy the problems arose soon after the roof of the house was under repair at the time ok and the dust from the mine peeps gotten this does you pull your kid in the piece. before you sleep you must face. that and everyone kids oh yeah a few weeks later the first signs of illness appeared in the years since the tundra has been unable to. communicate with her. when she she was to be changed. yeah and then she she kicks it is ok you know maybe when she wants you to go i said richie she kisses him and she

but i wake up every morning and i am grateful that and i am grateful that after all, i am a south africanrom south africa's truth and reconciliation commission. that's all from an all—female edition of witness history this month, to celebrate international women's day. we will be back next month with more first—hand accounts of extraordinary moments in history. but for now, from me and the rest of the witness history team, goodbye. hello, it looks like next weekend, our weather will be cooler and unsettled. until then, it is pretty much as you were. the mornings may start like this, just as they did this morning, but for many of us as we come out of that and see some blue sky and temperatures well above normal for this time of year. satellite pictures from earlier show we did see some cloud in northern ireland and western scotland. this produced some patchy rain earlier. that has edged further east, but any rain or through this zone will die away into tonight, but we are left with an area of cloud, low cloud, mist and fog, with fog patches elsewhere. poor visibility more widespread than r

today we do have some culture too a new exhibition that's just opened in london shows the works of south african artist. muse and it raises questions about the a range of african women from history as well as the spiritual connection to the lad. the nation between the land itself and her and sisters teams explored in this wanting video by a south african artist sitting misters down in. a sought after artist in africa mr zanna is now celebrating his first solo shorey in the u.k. . showing my work here in london doesn't mean that there's a different audience but it doesn't mean that no one can necessarily connect with the work within the work you know there are traces of of people finding their own humanity and of finding solitude within the landscape but also of finding self and reflections that happen within the spaces the artists exploration of the landscape in history come a south africa grapples with how to rectify the inequality of landownership this body of work kind of surfaces in a time where south africa is having conversations around land reform and changing the constitution to allow fo

the south african opposition party the economic freedom fighters is launching its manifesto ahead of elections later this year and latest polls show that support for the populist group and its land redistribution agenda is growing it's a climb to third in the popularity stakes from either miller has more from johannesburg . south africans may argue about the strength of opposition party the economic freedom fighters the party won six percent of the vote in the last general election in twenty fourteen having been formed just a year earlier perhaps in significant when compared to the sixty two percent majority support of the ruling party the african national congress but surveys suggest the e.f. if as it's known here has grown by up to thirteen percent since then we are the only growing political organization in south africa wanted to do. in terms of. the majority in parliament we have been leading in terms of key to begin to issues on the land on feet. on the discourse on corruption on job zuma and the visit to the ever thing all major political events that got to happen in south afri

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news africa great to have you with us gold medal winning south african run our cost us the man is in court this week trying to face down the lead to govern body the. rules that would force athletes like cement not to reduce the at the still strong levels that south african governments are still in its weight behind the athlete sponsoring a case and launching a social media campaign on the naturally superior the landmark case has divided opinion. cast to cement his name and athletic skills have polarized the world of sports in the last decade she is hyper androgenic that means her body naturally produces high levels of testosterone but the i.w.a. half want athletes like her to take drugs to lower their testosterone levels in order to compete in middle distance track events testosterone they argue gifts are many an unfair advantage the core value for the odd overlay of his empowerment of girls and women through a lot it's the regulations that we are introducing to protect the sanctity. of fair and open competition not really what we're here to define symon your first game global promin

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south africans had to find a way to confront their past without endangering the chance for peace.mmittee of the truth and reconciliation committee and she worked to expose the truth about apartheid. we are charged to unearth the truth about our dark past, to lay the ghost of that past, so that they will not return to haunt us. south africans face a collective test today, and the reaction to these hearings will show whether they are able to expose the sins of apartheid yet free themselves of the desire for revenge against those who propped up the system. the act allowed amnesty only if the perpetrator confessed to having committed the crime.” perpetrator confessed to having committed the crime. i did terrible things, idid committed the crime. i did terrible things, i did terrible things to members of the anc.” things, i did terrible things to members of the anc. i grew up in soweto. it was rampant with security police. you people, get out very quickly. the army presence built up on streets that began to look like battle grounds. it felt like hell. parents watch tear smoke from thei

ok now see the south african city off durban way a local artist is building up a collection of life sized statues of famous african icons in a way the artist and sculptor. hopes to create africa's version of the famous wax museum. he has a growing collection of african political figures and other icons in statues have already started bringing him local fame and earning him a living. a one step closer to history we would be income to get from do with the. vision museum as you can see i. mean. because you know i'm trying to do the same thing that. we're trying to do this do shoes of. the white heroes of struggle you know different in different categories. that's news africa you can catch. on our website and facebook page or even you with images probably fasano in a fashion week with models from the south african fashion label. side by. what do you think what you get for fifty. used a. lot. of the idea. here which. is you think income goals are still good you know. it cost fifty cents to feed one hundred child for one full. day to keep one. game in. numbers at all with the sheridan. sharing

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you're tuned in we're putting this stigma on hiv aids in focus today because just a few days ago a south african m.p. made his status public it was ofter an ex patna threaten to expose her on facebook name more tyros deal will do so someone is threatening to reveal my status to you all but let me save him the hassle of doing it i have nothing to hide but also some things are not necessary to share with people it doesn't affect but since i've been threatened let me do it because i don't take kindly to threats i'm hiv positive and have been now for h. is possibly mall and she went on to say perhaps these threats are a good thing it has made me add my voice to the dea stigmatize ation that is still embedded in our society. so just how bad is hiv aids related stigma in our communities we took all cameras and people told us some of the reasons why they wouldn't want their hiv status to be public knowledge . because of the stigma to see my theories on all of the. leak i would never let people know that i my street corners are still out on my bike and increased my status my private life but i'm going t

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andy will meet a south african offer whose -- and you will meet a south african author whose just published her fifth book, and d she is only 12 years old. but first come our top story come alive from paris -- but first, our top story, live from paris. ♪ genie: we will start in hanoi with that surprise early end to the nuclear summit between donald trump and kim jonong-un. president said he decided to walk away from the table over north korea's demand d that the u.s. d dropped all sanctctions against it. that much-antiticipateted second meeting between the twtwo leades was supposed to build on their historic first summit in singapore, but the ended up a meeting. --p-pres. trump: we just left chairmann kim. i thinink we had a very prprodue titime. we f felt that it wasn't a good thining to be e signing anythih. we had some options, but at this time we decideded to not do anyf the options, and we will see where that goes, but it was a very interesting twowo days. i think it was a very productive two days, but sometimes you have to walk. genie: charles pellegrin is in hanoi, covering the summi