we see this as maybe a 10 year plan, possibly, kind of the set apart module could expand to the south arcade, but that's more long time. >> just wondering why this wasn't one big --. >> commissioner hyland. >> how did the layout of the three or the five kiosks get determined and the rhythm in which they have been placed. >> jane to speak to this, but my understanding is we looked at the arcade and then placed them accordingly so it's kind of corresponds to the size of the arcade bay. >> i guess if you have 25 potential businesses that want them, that might answer the second question. how did you come up with five versus four? >> so they actually mirror the inside nave shops. if you took a mirror image from humphrey slocum down to mackavoy ranch it's sort of continuing that bow art symmetry. >> these will be connected to those interior --. >> there is that potential. if one of the interior shops would like to open up the doors, like heath ceramics, they have a partnership with blue bottle coffee, oh, maybe heath would want to open up part of their door --. >> that would be the purpose of the