pressed south korea on issues like deployment of the fat system in south korea and also participation in -- south korea's participation in aaib are really making south korea quite frustrated either way. they don't want to offend china, allegedly, chinese are opposed to this. and also try to invite south korea to join the aaib. also chinese efforts to enlist south korea to join the aib are making south korea's life a little bit more uncomfortable. at the same time. and also despite the success of the xi/obama summit in beijing, i think differences between china and u.s. on a whole lot of issues remain ranging from how to deal with north korea more effectively on the nuclear issue to how to address the south china sea maritime disputes. we have a lot of differences. and both governments are a bit concerned about -- quite concerned about the other country's approach. the three countries cannot agree on how to deal with north korea's nuclear issue, which is allegedly sparing no time -- i mean north korea, quietly developing nuclear weapons and planning to have another nuclear test. how ca

and also what is south korea's aaid are really making south korea quite frustrated in a way. they don't want to offend china allegedly the chinese post to this and also try to invite south korea to join the aid. finally, the opposition to the fact deployment and also chinese efforts to enlist south korea to join the aib are making south korea's life a little bit more uncomfortable at the same time. and also, despite the success of the key obama summit in beijing, i think differences between china and u.s. on a whole range of issues remain ranging from how to deal with the north korea more effectively on the nuclear issue to how to address the south china sea maritime issue. they have a lot of differences. and both governments are concerned about -- or quite concerned about the other country's approach. the three countries do agree as to how to deal with north korea's nuclear issue which is allegedly sparing no time -- i mean north korea -- developing a nuclear weapon and planning to have another nuclear test. how can we explain the negative developme

about the -- under this initiatives of new diplomacy and rebalancing they are saying in south korea, south korea faced [ inaudible ] yes or no? it means we are living the yes or nos era. the difficult cases of the aiib south korea is under tremendous pressure from the united states and china. how do we handle these kinds of issues? i would like to get advice from my respectable chinese scholar as well as the americans. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. actually, we started 20 minutes late so at least i think we should get 10 to 15 minutes back. i'm negotiating. i'm like a house wife trying to keep up with how much money the household has. i try to manage and in the end i end up with no money in the deficit. maybe we should entertain three questions. i will read them. one is to professor, could you summarize the prc strategic goals in the south china sea? how do these goals shape china's concept of its future relations with regional neighbors? this is from michael marsh, global peace foundation. the second question is if this question is not censored by the moderator. has north korea n

, south korea's participation on a i a b. are really making south korea quite frustrated, either way. they don't want to offend china, allegedly the chinese are opposed to this, and also try to invite south korea to join. china's opposition to a deployment, and also chinese efforts to enlist the south korea to join are making south korea's life a little more uncomfortable. at the same time. and also despite the success of the xi-obama summit in beijing, i think differences on a whole range of issues, ranging from positive view with north korea more effectively on the nuclear issue, to how to address the south china sea maritime disputes. we have a lot of differences. and both governments are concerned about, quite concerned about the other countries approach. the three countries cannot agree on how to deal with north korea nuclear issues, which is allegedly bearing no time, i mean north korea, widely developing nuclear weapons and planning to have another impact. how can we explain the negative developments if we can't explain the positive developments? s

south korea says the u.s. deployment of thaad will help defend the country. but it has avoided a clear stance on the issue. it says the u.s. has not formally approached south korea about the matter. meanwhile, politicians in south korea's national assembly have been debating the issue for a month. >> translator: if we decide not to use thaad, north korea will be free to threaten our citizens with nuclear missiles. >> translator: thaad could mean we are pulled into a dispute between the u.s. and china. >> translator: if thaad is deployed without civilian input there will surely be strong resistance within korea. the current administration must exercise extremely careful judgment. >> reporter: with china on the rise, and the u.s. no longer the only super power, south korea's government walks a diplomatic tight rope. kim dae-young, nhk world, seoul. >>> u.s. safety regulators are demanding a recall. they want all cars fitted with japan's ta kata air bags off the road. how are industry people reacting to the demands? >> it's been quits mixed. these can explode, injure and kill people in the car when it's warm outside. so, in several of the southern states, actually,

in the aiid and neither example in this year at airshow, south korea was supposed to go to participate in the airshow but before the south korea participated, america said no, you can not go because you have high technologies with our fighters which might be learned by the chinese. that all shows that south korea is in a very difficult position. on one hand it is developing close economic relationship with china but on the other hand there is a big political barrier. that shows in east asia which is different from other countries, from other areas. for other areas economic integration leads to political integration. but in east asia, you see the political obstacle prevent economic integration. that is other way around. so very diffcult and very interesting phenomenon in that area. last point i want to talk about is about the professor moon's perspective, very new. reminds me of professor research that talked about racial imbalance and impact on foreign countries on foreign and security policy. i also remind, do not have the time to elaborate, how those changes, demographic change will impact south korean foreign policy exactly

south korea. japan and south korea also have disagreements over history. north korea's nuclear and missile development is another concern. authorities in pyongyang launched ballistic missiles into the sea of japan multiple times this year. and, amid what abe is calling a changing security environment, his cabinet approved a landmark change in policy. in july, they decided to reinterpret the constitution to enable the country to use the right to collective self-defense. it allows japan to defend a closely related country under attack, like this scenario where japan's maritime self-defense force ships defend a u.s. naval vessel. past leaders interpreted the constitution to mean japan cannot take such actions. but abe says the country must change course. >> translator: making all possible preparations will, in itself, serve as the power to thwart attempts to wage war on japan. this is deterrence. >> reporter: some opposition parties are critical of abe's defense policy, saying it's against the constitution. abe wants a strong mandate to enact it. and so he tur

korea offline on monday. the u.s. has denied any involvement in the blackout. >>> computer systems at south korea korea's nuclear powerauthority have been hacked. now it's back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ ♪ every day i sit around while i play ♪ ♪ my harmonica thinking about you ♪ ♪ wishing i could hold you like i used to do ♪ hit it. ♪ that's it. >>> holman's ad-seg unit houses roughly 200 inmates, some of which are the most violent and dangerous. steven parker is one of the most notorious. >> i'm in maximum security. i'm stuck in a lockup cell. they may not ever let me out of lockup because i have a tendency, every time i get out, i try to kill somebody. i go completely calm. i make up my mind what i'm going to do. i go into these zones where i turn into this cold-blooded. i don't know what causes it, other than just being depressed and feeling like i have nothing else to lose and nothing else to live for. i grew up pretty rough. my mother left when i was real young. i lived with my stepmother and my dad. and my stepmother, she was really hateful. she was kind of mea

arthel: south korea proposing talks with north korea. h korea yeahs unification minister says the country wants to start talks in january to discuss exchange programs, joint projects and laws needed to bring the divided countries closer together. zoll launch ad government -- zoll launch ad government committee to work on the progress but now uncertain whether pyongyang will accept zoll's offer. jon: accused of hacking sony pictures stealing emails and sabotaging feature films. and home depot, the victim after massive retail credit card breach. now there could be an april greater mike in hack attacks in 2015. we have fox business network's peter barnes. peter what is going on? >> hey jon that cyberattack on sony pictures was the not the christmas present united states was expecting. the hackers took cyber insecurity to a new level. threatening cyber attacks on theaters that had shown the movie. pwc a consulting firm, reported cybersecurity incidents against private companies globally rose by 48% in 2014 to nearly 43 million incidents. a se

previous hacks of south korea are any clue, here's what we're anticipating. south korea has been a victim, a number of companies here have been the victim of attacks from north korea. cyberattacks, that is. what we've heard from the regime -- deny, deny, deny. but underneath that veneer of denials, was cyberintelligence experts here in south korea say is happening is north korea has been building their capabilities for cyberwarfare, they're sending out more of these agents around the world, they are becoming better, they're becoming smarter, we heard one cyberintelligence expert tell us today that he considers them one of the top five threats globally, as a country, as far as launching hack attacks. so certainly we're anticipating that they're going to deny it, regardless of what washington says, but they're going to be continue to be building their army. chris? >> kyung, proof of confidence, check. proof of intentions, check. what will be the response from the u.s.? and what happens next? thank you very much. >>> let's get perspective from tom fuentes, a cnn law enforce

south korea. -- for south korea. this is a microscopic network. this internet did not play a big role in society in north korea. very few people have access to it. a handful of websites, mostly government websites. has nearly nobody out of the many people in north korea, almost nobody has access to it. >> let me ask you this. what would it take to launch this kind of attack on the country of north korea? >> just to be clear, i don't have direct evidence to confirm that this was a cyber attack. i cannot rule out the possibility that this was ian extraordinarily poorly timed router malfunction. however, in the context of what this occurred in, you have to consider the possibility. possibility, this denial attack that was directed at north korea, that type of attack on the spectrum of sophistication is actually pretty low. that means there is a lot of players out there that could be involved. >> it could have been the cat that is over your right shoulder that could've launched a this attack? >> that's right. >> thank you very much for joining us. a tr

eastern on c-span2. >> friday, a look at north and south korea with panels on how south korea's growing economy is impacting north korea and what it's like to report on north korea. we'll bring you live coverage starting at 1:45 p.m. eastern here on c-span2. >> today, former senate majority leader trent lott, and former senate democratic leader tom daschle talked about issues in congress, including the affordable care act, immigration policy, eric garner decision, and the need for bipartisanship in congress. this event is an hour. hosted by the christian science monitor. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you for coming, everyone. i'm dave cook for the "christian science monitor." our guest are affiliate with the bipartisan policy center, tom daschle, trent lott, and jason grume. leader daschle was a guest speaker at the 241st and final break fast as host. the senator visit nine times before that. he is a graduate of south dakota state university, served as an intelligence officer in the air force, was a senate staffer, and won election to the u.s. house in 1978, and to the senate in '8

they know the south korea attack was launched by north korea. way to test, looking at this current tact, against that south korea attack, is one way you would map and try to determine whether or not north korea was the actual hacker here. >> it's not just private companies that are vulnerable. the u.s. government is vulnerable. we knew that state department compute kerrs were hacked a few months ago. >> absolutely. look what snowden did. taking tons of classified material right out the back door and probably out the front and side doors at the same time. and that was u.s. government proprietary information. so yeah, the government's vulnerable, everybody has some vulnerability to this type of attack. >> one of the options, peter, in terms of retaliating against north korea, sending a message to not only north korea but other countries, other actors as the white house calls them, not to do this. what are the options in terms of a response, once the u.s. names and shames north? >> north korea has beening to things that the u.s. finds objection abou

korea. now bbc their monitoring service picked that up and gave it a lot of credence by saying in south korea media or south korea media and the problem is that it's maybe they won't use anonymous sources themselves but happily quote whichever outlet it is and republish that and say south korean media said. it seems to me a way for the journalist in question who was putting it together, all the editors to basically washed their hands of responsibility because they can just say well we just transmitting this from another outlet. >> definitely a fair criticism and that's why it takes a good degree of knowledge of what's what within a media. there's a quality press in south korea and then there's the more fast and loose types. >> on the question of attribution and jean you raised, what are the standards in the south korean press typically? do you quote from anonymous sources and how do you verify the credibility of these sources where, again, with this report about kim jong-li dying while on the phone with kim jong-un. how was this verified. >> there's some difference on north korea to find out if he died or not. it

we are seeing online many citizens of south korea complaining that the sea, east sea as it's called in the rest of the world, sorry the ec, in south korea it's called the sea of japan to the rest of the world, a very contentious here in north korea. that is being focused on by south korea. really both sides of the peninsula at this point, there is some anger at this movie. >> well, it was meant to be an outrageous comedy and it is certainly garnering some outrageous responses. and also, what about efforts, paula, for those in south korea who try to smuggle things into north korea to get people there to try to be able to see it? >> well, this is certainly going to be one of pyongyang's biggest concerns that this movie could make its way into north korea. we've seen these so-called propaganda balloons and activists sending dvds showing exactly what is happening in north korea across the border in helium balloons. we know that many of them do make it to north korea. we've heard from some defectors they have seen some of the dvds and cds. of course, that's a concern for pyongyang that this dvd will be the next one being sent over. we've alr

. >> friday, look at north and south korea on how south korea's economy is impacting north korea and what it's like to report on north korea. we'll bring you live coverage starting at 1:45 p.m. eastern here on c-span2. >> the c-span cities tour takes booktv and american history tv on the road, traveling to u.s. cities to learn about their history and literary life. this weekend we partnered with time warner cable for a visit to waco, texas. >> as we began to receive the vinyl to be digitized, to be saved, we began turning over the b sides of the 45s in we received. first off, gospel music was not widely heard in the white community and would only be the hits but the flip side would be even less, and we discovered how many of the b side songs were directly related to the civil rights movement since there's very few databases, none of them complete on gospel music, didn't know that. we didn't know the sheer number of songs that had -- very overt songs like, they're ain't know segregation in heaven, type songs, at a time when possessing one of those songs was very dangerous in the deep

it's not cutoff from the outside world. >> does south korea broadcast or beam anything into north korea like we were doing in cuba and elsewhere? >> i think south korea does have radio broadcast and the united states has radio broadcast and if you are in north korea and you are not supposed to be listening. some tried to and most don't. >> visiting fellow at the u.s. korea institute on out of johns hopkins. it has been a year since three al jazeera journalists were improvened. we will talk to the financy about what a dangerous year this has been for journalism, just after the break. and a car! so far, you're horrible at this, flo. yeah, no talent for drawing, flo. house! car! oh, raise the roof! no one? remember when we used to raise the roof, diane? oh, quiet, richard i'm trying to make sense of flo's terrible drawing. i'll draw the pants off that thing. oh, oh, hats on hamburgers! dancing! drive-in movie theater! home and auto. lamp! squares. stupid, dumb. lines. [ alarm rings ] no! home and auto bundle from progressive. saves you money. yay, game night, so much fun. >>> this week mar

very targeted and this is just an expansion of what we have seen in the cyber war between south korea and north korea. last year, south korea banks were frozen. atms did not work for a period of time because of malware that was sent from north korea, according to the south korean government. this is a step off the peninsula. a globalization of a war waged here on the peninsula. by training these foot soldiers, the south korean government says bureau 121 is the heart of the cyber war. they train these soldiers and hand select them. they take orders from pyongyang. they the hackers with one goal. to try to attack western interests and infiltrate as they did with sony. this one, deb, the most spectacular to date if it proves to come from north korea. >> no question about it. the malware. obviously, malware infiltrates a system by someone clicking on a link or leaving the computer on. a serious situation. a lot of countries paying attention. kyung lah, thank you. >>> hollywood is reacting with fear to the cyber attack on sony pictures. some are showing disappointment at sony's decision to withdraw the mo

and you may have noted that the republic of korea, south korea, has offered to permit certain events of the 1988 olympics to take place in the north. international sports competitions of all kinds could take place in both parts of this city. and what better way to demonstrate to the world the openness of this city than to offer in some future year to hold the olympic games here in berlin, east and west. in these four decades, as i have said, you are berliners have built a great city. you've done so in spite of threats, the soviet attempts to impose the east mark, the blockade. today the city thrives in spite of the challenges implicit in the very presence of this wall. what keeps you here? certainly there is a great deal to be said for your fortitude, for your defiant courage. but i believe there's something deeper, something that involves berlin's whole look and feel and way of life. not mere sentiment. no one could live long in berlin without being completely disabused of illusions. something instead that has seen the difficulties of life in berlin but close to accept them. that co

also, with respect to the messages north korea makes, having spent years living in south korea myself, north korea makes these kinds of threats all the time. they're telling us constantly they're going to obliterate us. if you do this, we'll obliterate you. the number of their threats that have actually come true is the lower rather than higher percentage. that's not to dismiss some of the atrocities they have committed which are absolutely terrible. >> ifill: since we're talking about threats, we see the film will be in limited release probably later this week. if i were running an independent theater in austin, texas, that's going to begin showing this film at midnight on christmas day, should i be afraid? are they taking a risk at this point? >> gwen, you can be absolutely certain the companies involved in distribution of the movie are taking this movie seriously and working with companies like crowdstrike to make sure they're prepared. >> ifill: what do you think about that, marc rogers? >> i think it's highly unlikely the cinema in texas will face much threat from a regime or group of hackers

korea cyber attack on sony pictures. this comes as nuclear operators in south korea say their plant was hacked but no critical data was stolen. it is raising serious questions approximate of the vulnerability of the nuclear plant and other sensitive facility. and we have president of ross back up.com. when you hear from the companies. how concerned are they? >> most companies are upset. because most malware was undetected. that is a serious problem. we have smaller companies that are worried about this now. >> a lot of people are hiring cyber security experts. how are they testing to make sure their systems are safe? >> they are preparing a better back up plan. when sony came down, they lost their data and brought to their gooe knows and they couldn't get the systems back up and running. the experts have an off account to work with they can work with. >> a completely different system off site. >> and they will switch. >> how common is that on the fortune 500 companies? >> i am not in touch with that many. but i am sure it is. >> and let me ask you about south korea nuclear plant said it was attacked and hacked. and what does that tell us about the safety and security of our installations here in the united states. it is the age of the geek. people can hack. and not 100 percent secure. >> excuse me. we'll have to leave it there because mayor de blasio is making comments. >> yeah, it appears he is ready to speak. let's listen n. >> hand in hand and expressed powerfully by the work of the police athletic league and that work couldn't happen in neighborhoods all over the city if not for you. i want to thank you for doing the right thing in our city and coming together and move forward. and i have to say bob, i love that story you just told, i love that you kept that quarter for that young girl and you are an honest and good man and it epitomizes the life you have given in service for this city and rule of law and for the healing of people and in service to our nation in world war ii. and i can't think of a man who epitomizes public service and all w

korea could be behind the attack. realuation for the new movie the interview. >> you want us to kill the leader of north south korea korea? >> reporter: premiering tonight, there will be no interviews. and sony laying down that unusual edict saying there will be no cameras or reporters allowed on the red carpet tonight. and now with the leaked salaries and deals, could this be fodder for future lawsuits? this breach has a lot of people very angry and nervnervous. >> i'll bet it does. >>> and the nfl, commissioner roger goodell has issued a new code of conduct, including harsh harsher consequences. >> it's the nfl dogged all year about their criticism of handling of domesticing violence cases. coming two months earlier than the super bowl. in the wake of the ray rice scandal, and hoping it stops violent acts off the field. >> being part of the nfl is a privilege. it is not a right. >> reporter: this morning nfl team owners approving new get tough penalties for players accused of violent crimes. >> the policy is comprehensive. it is strong. it is tough. and it is better for everyone associated with the nfl. >> reporter: un

korea. today, wall street journal reported the malicious code is nearly isle dent kal to the hacking tools used against an attack against south korea. if north koreaas the capability, it may also have the motive. >> so what can we do you for? >> the c.i.a. would love it if you could take him out. >> like, for drinks? >> no, take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea? >> yes. >> after the first trailer came out in june, they released a statement as terrorism and war action avowing to carry out merciless counter measures. statement as terrorism and war action avowing to carry out merciless counter measures. >> this story is bananas. >> it's the craziest thing i've ever heard of. >> the whole thing, the whole taking the whole thing down. the fact that it might be north korea. how much do we know at this point? we know it's different than a hack you would see of this kind. generally, the biggest advantage hackers have is they can be in the system for months before anyone knows that they're there. presumably, they have pretty firm security measures to keep those protected. >> one would hope. you never know. >> so the fact that they

political fallout, that's really what's starting to pick up steam here in south korea. >> yeah, kyung lah joining us from seoul, south korea4:00 in the afternoon there, thanks very much. >>> the u.s. ambassador to the united nations says life in north korea is a living nightmare. samantha powers spoke monday as they took up pyongyang's human rights record. on friday the general assembly urged the council to refer north korea to the international criminal court for crimes against humanity. >> these crimes have been perpetrated in the dprk in a widespread and systemic matter directed by the highest level of government and in many cases constitute crimes against humanity. >> south korea's ambassador says this is especially difficult for him. >> >> i am saying this with a heavy heart because for south koreans, people in north korea are not just anybody's -- millions of south koreans still have our family members and relatives living in the north, even though we never hear from them, even though by now the pain of separation has become a cold fact of life, we can now watch video clips from north korea without flinching at every

and they found similarities with a cyberattack launched by north korea against south korea banks and media outlets. >> hello, north korea! >> the cyberattack was apparently motivated by the sony movie "the interview," a plot against north korea's leader. >> after threats of violence sony decided to cancel the movie. but president obama in his end of year news conference criticized that decision. >> yes, i think they made a mistake. we cannot have a society in which some dictator some place can start imposing censorship here in the united states. because if someone is able to intimidate folks out of releasing a satirical movie, imagine what they'll start to do if they see a documentary that they don't like or news report that they don't like. >> but sony disagrees with the president. they issued a statement. sony ceo said that they don't own movie theaters and cannot determine what movie a theater will show, but what is left unclear is whether sony plans to put "the interview" back on the market. >> very interesting. i want to talk a little bit about the options that are on the table. you mentioned there are options out

. >>> the constitutional court in south korea has banned a political party accused of being pronorth korearea's government has petitioned to dissolve the minority group. it's five members of parliament have been stripped of their seat. the upp leader has condemned the ruling, and has called the south careen government a dicker toal regime. >>> the united nations has voted to refer [ inaudible ] after a u.n. report released in february details a range of human rights violations. north korea has rejected the resolution, calling it a political plot. >>> now in a remote district of nepal families follow an age-old tradition where brothers can marry the same woman, but as reported, the younger generation is moving away from this controversial custom. >> reporter: this woman is married to three brothers. but none of them are around. they are away working with their cattle. one is a trekking guide. and [ inaudible ]. in this remote district, these people of tibet tan ancestry say that marrying brothers is the only way to ensure that they have enough food. >> the produce from the land here is neve

just to put that in context, for south korea to put in -- perhaps south korea and china, that's about -- do the math. about eight, nine, or 10 months of the trade surplus in south korea. so what they do in 10 months, china does in one. the chinese benchmarks up 1.5% here. all continuing this world beating rally. best market across over 90 stock markets. you take that further, and look what's happening in shanghai. that's what's happening here. look like everything arguably with the exception of health care stocks. look at that. 8%. billion u.s. dollars was the turnover on friday. that's roughly the size of the new zealand economy. 13-13. so you have the big boys. hong kong, sidney. take a look at valuation. the bigger the stocks, the lower the price. that's where you could find your value there. again, 60%. about 15 short. that 2000 level. rally continues. 93. we'll see. we'll leave it there for now. back to you. >> banks struggling over an inquiry that they raised billions in capital to guard against future crises. we can get to paul allen in sidney. a pretty good reputation there. s

watchers, korea watchers to go to korea, learn korean and the train as if, a korean special and they work in journalism. the outside world certainly needs a lot more of that for korea, for south korea itself as a vibrant economy of 50 million people, cultural products. >> the funny thing is talking about standards, look at all those mainstream newspapers to keep getting it wrong and dropping the ball on north korea. were of the standards? why is there a lack of editorial rigor when it comes to north korea? >> i think we should probably open up to the floor. we have about just 15, 20 minutes left. i'm going to ask that you wait for the microphone and then please identify yourself. right here in the center. >> hi. carnegie endowment. as a former journalist myself coming north korea in south korea i really wanted to say how wonderful this panel is come and hearing from four of my great journalistic colleagues who i've known and respected for such a long time, so thank you so much for all of your insights into remarks. i have a question for gene and the question come a separate question for dr. jinwook. my question for gene is, basically if you could share some of your tactics an

korea's hacking ability? what we have heard so far from defense officials and south korea is that north korea operates a unitout 3000 hackers. these hackers are basically trained in how to hack into four networks -- four networks -- foreign networks and sending out e-mail that contains malware which activates when the hackers want them to. we believe these hackers are young trained kids that are the smartest and most loyal in north korea's education system. they certainly pose a certain threat to the businesses as well as governments around the world. developed north korea a hacking team in the first place? >> well, north korea knows very well that modern workfare is all about electronic devices. it is electronic warfare. they are computer networks running behind all of those sophisticated weapons we have seen in the united states and south korea, but it does not have the resources or money to build up those sophisticated weapons. what north korea does is develop a unit that hacks into the computers of the enemy. thereby paralyzing the computer networks that are used to attack north korean troops. this incre

code having korean language settings, but it emulates the attack code that was used against south korea. north koreat. >> reporter: that purported motive, revenge for the upcoming movie "the interview." >> want to go kill kim jong-un? >> totally. >> it's a date. >> reporter: the comedy now in the middle of a real life mystery. for "good morning america," aditi roy, abc news, san francisco. >> kind of want to see the movie. >> i do too. and i kind of want to know who's behind the hack attack. >> yes. >> call the fbi. >>> coming up on "good morning america," the president and first lady's romance. get ready for a big screen version. all the details, sara haines in "pop news." speaking of a misses, she's back. >> hello. >> she's back. >> why did that sound negative? >> why did that sound negative? osteo bi-flex® with joint shield™ nurtures and helps defend your joints° so you can keep doing what you love. what'd you guys do today? the usual! the usual! [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, ready for action. [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, dry skin heal it... want to hibernate? ...with nivea extended mois

korea won't be reacting too well to this pact given that there are reports. south korea's proposing another wound of peace talks with their northerly neighbour. >> certainly high-level talks are being outlined by south korea's unification minister. the unification minister coming out and saying he would travel to pyongyang to have talks with his counterparts there in north korea. there were two such high level talks during the course of this year. in february the first round resulted in a family reunion ceremony where those families separated by the korean war were able to see each other again. and then in october there was a surprise visit by extremely high level contingent of leadership figures to seoul. that was followed by military clashes across the border between north and south. nothing eventuated from that. what we saw at the beginning of 2014 was a new year's message talking about better relations. this could be south korea trying to get on the front foot and seeing if they can elicit similar words from kim jong un in this knew year's message this week. >> harry fawcett speaking to us from soul of the south. >> well iran says one of its most senior revolutionary guard commanders has been killed in

and the ability to have this -- these balloon drops in north korea from south korea to north korea.spoken to one of the guys from the human rights foundations to get his hands on this to do this. so this is a reality. and you can see, this it is a very tight knit community, that you can see, why they would be afraid to have this land there. but i think martin, there is a high probability that it could land on -- in north korea. >> and then you would be the first in line to go see this, i take it. >> yeah. i mean, and not only that, i'm reminded of remember a week ago when the prime minister of australia came out and he told people to go about their business and go about their day. he didn't say, never go to a coffee shop again. that's the issue here. when you have a threat, they -- more people are going to use this to their advantage. and it may not be north korea next time. it may be another group. you can't just start pulling movies and having others dictate. and sony should know better. and i really think for them this is strictly about they do not want to be embarrassed anymore

south korea. and she may have been the first in the korean wave in north korea back in the early '80s. and so this su young refers to south korean fashions. south korean capitalism and south korean youth. and that had actually had a far-reaching impact in the minds of north koreans. and so if you wanted to understand the mind set of a entrepreneur universitt, you ap from that perspective that north koreans see something from south korea. and it becomes a part of the north koreans. so i don't think north korean youth is taking on everything that is coming from south korea as something that is legitimate and worthy of following it. but there are certain things that is striking the code and minds of these north korean youth. and these are the new generation who are not used to d socithe socialist regime of north korea in the old days. and as we -- there is a talent. her name is song heg yo. she is a famous talent actress in south korea. and if you put her picture on any product, such as a mirror or some consumer product, north koreans come to realize it's much better. so this is in a way a

korea has tried anything like this before? >> yes. they have done cyber attacks, u.s. and south korea has linked them to cyber attacks against u.s. government agencies, south koreaencies south korean banks, even dissident groups in the south. and north korea responds very strongly to anything they perceive as an insult to their leader. they've threatened south korean media organizations, even publishing the geographic ordinates of the headquarters as a way of making clear their message. >> wow. do you think north korea is expecting a response from the u.s.? >> they may not. there have been many times when they've conducted military attacks, even leading to loss of life of u.s. and south korean citizens and the u.s. and seoul did not respond. so they may feel they have immunity really from a strong u.s. or south korean response. >> do you think that the u.s. needs to respond? >> i think so. there are a number of things we can do. first of all, this attack may fulfill the legal requirements for putting north korea back on the state sponsors of terrorism list. it includes definitions of criminal acts conducted in the u.s. intended to coerce the population. also mor

quain who defected from north korea, their focus in the past has been to do these attacks on the financial community in south korea. there's no banking system really in north korea banking system in south korea with cyberattacks, it's a no lose for the regime in the north. that's been the focus on the attacks, is on south korea's financial activity and the south korean government. now they have focused their attention to the united states and that's what is new here and why we should be looking at what we can do. as pointed out, without resources, north korea can't develop its nuclear weapons program. without hard currency, it can't send, you know, students abroad to learn these skills in moscow or beijing and then come home and practice them. let's cut off their hard currency. that's what we should be doing to bureau 121. >> well, there is a sentiment right now. i want to show you the cover of the new york post in a headline "kim jong won." >> the thought was not just on that but the publisher. the publishing houses came together and defended the right to pub lesh. what should have happened here is that hollywood and frankly the wider business community should

korea? >> it's certainly possible. we have heard from at least one activist here in south korea, a defector who escaped from north korea he intends to launching some propaganda balloons as they're called, helium balloons launched from south to north korea carrying dvds, carrying money, carrying other things. in the past, those dvds have had documentaries on them showing what they say is the truth about north korea trying to educate the north koreans and try and cut through some of the propaganda they're being fed by their own government. ac,ist is saying he's going to be sending copies of the dvd. it is possible that a very small minority of people within the country may see the movie. as we do know from some deconnect withers those have gotten in hands of people along the border region before. this is something pyongyang will be very concerned about. they have built this cult-like personality around the current leader but the entire kim dynasty. they don't want that bubble to be burst. natalie. >> yes, and they have worked very hard to try to keep that from happening. we'll wait and see if what we hear about the film

south korea at night has lights. north korea does not. i'm serious.hey can't keep a power grid running let alone hack into sony. they didn't do this >> but we don't know who did and that's scary. >> more scary than the federal government assuring us the north koreanthis. i'm talking about turnip fields. i don't think they have technology to plant turnip there's. >> you're backing up my point. that's sweet of you. >> these are the people we fear. >> i fear the part we don't know. >> there's a larger issue involved here because of what has happened and we don't know how it has happened and we don't know for sure who did it. we assume north korea did it with assistance from an outside force. what happens with the empowerment factor in play. they got the reaction they did. what happens when they don't like an editorial in the "new york times" and hacks into the "new york times." >> in terms of the theaters pulling out at this point, i certainly wouldn't blame them. watch them with george clooney in ari's theater room. you guys will be fine. one more story

korea, and south, and united states however, i am wondering is there any increase in military activity? is all of this -- is what this dec ratdictator in north korea g on-line, or is he actually lining up troops as well. >> it goes back and forth, i searched there in early certains tensions were high, and they rah not let down, there a discussion between south koread north korea, and but, from our perspective alertness, particularly whether we see cyber things escalating threats about physical threat and attacking hous white house, we'n a high alert, and during holidays when servicemen and women would like time off they will be in a higher alert than normal. >> what do you think the result in asking the chinese for help, a panel or what? >> there will be join investigation thing, probably lawn enforcement to law enforcement. >> howard thank you. >> thank you. >> and mean whole sony first pulled movie from theaters but lawyer david boies said it will be released online. we do not know about faction, "wall street journal" said shoving movie down north korea throat is the right move. >> james. "wall street journal" suggested that perhaps u.s. government to sh*should pay sony to pay sony r movie so we can some of is down north korea's throat. >> it is a test of free speech, our freedom, but also, could be an opportunity to undermine regime there, the

south korea, they threaten. they can't follow through but they make the threat. >> kyung lah reporting from seoul, south korea, 40 or so from the dmz with north korea. let's bring back senator king. how much of a threat, senator, do you believe north korea poses to the united states? >> i think it's a serious threat. i felt like saying after listening to that report, i rest my case. this stone thin this sony thing, it's a movie and it's devastating for the people at this company, but what if it was a nuclear power plant or the new york stock exchange or our banking system? this is real stuff, wolf. we're focusing on north korea, but there are other countries around the world with this capacity and are using it. sometimes just for good old theft of intellectual property and sometimes money. but the national security implications of this are extreme. i mean, i don't want to scare people, but this is something that we have to attend to. one of the other problems is, it can be done relatively cheaply. you don't have to build a huge missile complex or complicated weapons or anything else. you just have to have some re