that's a matter being discussed between the united states and the soft of south sudan. the matter, therefore, is not quite finalized. there are discussions also in new york as to some views as to what they think might happen. both with regard to the problem in the south as well as the problem that relates to the relations of the north and south this is a work in progress. of course, it won't affect uniment. it will continue it's work in darfur. the aeu -- the aec, of course, and the discussion and matter of the aec as to what happens to it. but also it's own mandates, as it relates. in principal, it's mandate is to end when the cpa ends. but the -- i'm quite sure that the members of the aec will want to discuss that also. to the extent that there are might be some things which might require further looking at postjuly 9th, maybe they may december to continue this. but i really don't know what sort of discussion is taking place. but i'm saying in principal, if the aec's mandate should end on the 9th of july. it doesn't guarantee what will happen. with regard to the doha a

that would be north and south sudan uniting together for the benefit of all the people of sudan. this seems to center on the question of the production of food. poverty exists in northern sudan. electrical power, real transportation rail transportation. this idea of two countries working together for a positive program that goes beyond simple debt relief, this is not discussed in washington. i want to know if you have thought about these ideas for the future of sudan. [unintelligible] [laughter] >> i think with regard to the first question, part of what we need to appreciate is the fact that for 40 years of its independence, sudan has been at war between the north and south. it's ultimately resulted in the [unintelligible] our own experience is that the sudanese both north and south have understood the cost attached to war. i am firmly of the view that war is not alone to solve their problems. any matter about standing between the two of the needs to be solved by peaceful means. they have direct experience of the opposite result. this does not mean there are new tensions of cours

which would be and south sudan unite together for the benefit of all people sudan. and this seems to me that center around the question of production of food, especially two of our brothers southern sudan, but food for northern sudan where poverty exists, electrical power, rail transportation. this idea of two countries working together, the self-interest and benefit of each other for a positive program that goes beyond simple debt relief, this is not discussed in washington. and i want to know if the three ex-presidents have thought about these ideas for the future of sudan. [inaudible conversations] >> yes, sir. i think that with regard to the defense question, i think part of what all of us need to appreciate is the fact that, you know, for 40 years of its independence, as i think all of us will recall, sudan has been at war between the two, between the north and the south. which ultimately resulted in the regime of the cpa. and i think our own experience is that the sudanese generally have understood very, very well the cost that attaches to war. and, therefore,

there is a very serious problem, challenge, which led to the war in sudan, the war between north and south, the war between the center and the east, which is an issue of the management of diversity in sudan. the south was separate -- will separate. the north will remain as divest as it was before this without separating. it is not going to go our way. and similarly with the south, the south is also faced with this issue of diversity and i'm saying to the sudanese that got appearance on this. you mismanage that differencety, it leads to conflict. now, i am sure that my completion are very clever people. and it is -- thank you very much for acknowledging this. [laughter] but, you know, but i'm absolutely certain that the sudanese vote north and south actually don't need their advice about where do we take sudan to? now the reason i'm saying all of this is because you say you have people who would think that you need particular sets of sanctions to apply the sudanese to understand where their true interest lies. everything's wrong. you don't need -- the sudanese don't need anybody to impose s

we are here for a discussion on the future of the sudan, south sudan, set to become independent from the rest of the sudan on july 9 of this year. among the individuals who will participate in the discussion this year, thabo mbeki, a former president of south africa, joined by the former president of burundi and nigeria, members of the african union high-level implementation plan 4 sedan. it should get underway shortly. news from the ivory coast. they are reporting that the french charity action against hunger delivered the first emergency food rations and the last holdout of militiamen loyal to former president and strong and lon gbagbo -- and strong and laurent gbagbo opened fire a round refugees. that is from the associated press. >> it looks like it will be amended or two until the discussion gets underway on the future of sudan. while we wait, we will bring you a conversation with one of our studentcam winners. >> is year's theme asked them to produce a video on a topic that helps them understand the world through washington. hi, ian. >> hi. >> why did you focus your documentary

sudan's people already overthrown two dictators, and with the conflict in darfur continuing despite a ce cline in media interests and a number of unresolved issues threatening the peaceful separation from the south and the north, sudan is now faced with the possibility of further disruptions to security arriving from its northern neighbors of egypt and libya. gadhafi's libya has played a vital role in negotiating a peace settlement in darfur, and it is uncertain who would step up to fill this void. a small protest movement has been repressed so far, but there is enormous dissatisfaction who failed to keep the country together and lost most oil revenues to the new southern state. in the current situation, there's the possibility of both north and south sudan tunning into -- turning into failed states with enormous consequences for the large part of africa. the collapse of the gadhafi regime would have enormous impact in the states of the sahara including chad, maui, and niger. they are integral parts of the economy and employee hundreds of thousands of migrant workers. they regard the region as the libyan hinterland and played an important and destabilizing role in the area particularly through h

peacekeeping operations will occur in south sudan after july 9. if you could speak to the issue of use in condo. how you see that playing out by un peacekeepers? also, years back, i held a series of hearings and offered an amendment on the issue of anti-semitic language in unra text books. we are the major donors. has that been fixed? half a billion dollars over the last two years. we should have zero tolerance for anything that is anti- semitic or anti american when we are footing the bill before those textbooks -- for those textbooks. i raised this with increasing alarm as far back as 1983. that is a barbaric one child per couple policy with its heavy reliance on forced abortion and forced sterilization. brothers and sisters are illegal in china. that has not changed. i easily worked on a case of a woman who was being compelled in -- recently worked on a case of a woman who was being compelled to get an abortion who had a first child and was not allowed to have a second. i will share with you privately, it was a successful outcome but she is the

that is a matter that is being discussed at united nations and the government of south sudan. the matter is not quite to finalize. -- quite finalized. with regard to the deployment in the south as well between the north and south, it is a work in progress. unament will continue its work in darfur. the aec, some discussion has risen about them as to what happens to it. in principle, the mandate ought to end it when the cpa ends. i am sure that the members will want to discuss that also. to the extent there might be to the extent there might be something -- some things

in the current situation, there is a possibility of both north and south sudan turning into failed states with enormous consequences for a large part of africa. the crux -- the collapse of the gaddafi regime would have an enormous impact on chad, maui and the share. let -- niger. libya is an integral part of the economy of the states, including the employment of hundreds of thousands of migrant workers. gaddafi regards this region as a libyan interplant and has played an important role in the area, particularly through his recruitment and sponsorship of people whose ancient homeland has been divided amongst half a dozen nations in the post- colonial era. having long acted as a sponsor of regimes that consider the presence inconvenient and irresponsible, gaddafi is now trying to get them to rally to his cause. whether he wins or loses, there is immense concern in these nations that the fighters will return to their home states to initiate a new round of rebellions in oil and uranium rich regions. egyptian revolution is not yet history. we may have only witnessed the first phase of a proces

in the current situation, there is a possibility of both north and south sudan turning into failed states with enormous consequences for a large part of africa. the crux -- the collapse of the gaddafi regime would have an enormous impact on chad, maui and the share. let -- niger. libya is an integral part of the economy of the states, including the employment of hundreds of thousands of migrant workers. gaddafi regards this region as a libyan interplant and has played an important role in the area, particularly through his recruitment and sponsorship of people whose ancient homeland has been divided amongst half a dozen nations in the post- colonial era. having long acted as a sponsor of regimes that consider the presence inconvenient and irresponsible, gaddafi is now trying to get them to rally to his cause. whether he wins or loses, there is immense concern in these nations that the fighters will return to their home states to initiate a new round of rebellions in oil and uranium rich regions. egyptian revolution is not yet history. we may have only witnessed the first phase of a proces

we certainly saw the the the case of contingency planning for south sudan where the state department and office of disaster assistance through a number of meetings that reach out the committee compared notes and something similar large of the office of foreign disaster assistance has occurred with libya since light and on the ground in that area. >> i'm afraid that was all afghanistan all the time until a couple of weeks ago. >> libya at all now? >> working on both sides of the border i don't know what extent if any they've been involved in the planning. >> ms. richard. >> we have sent teams to the egyptian side of the border and the parts of the government have been in touch with our teams libya is an odd situation right now because there haven't been a lot of refugees over the border. the people that have come have been workers from third countries going back to them and we did do a little help on that to in a half-million kids in school is that due to any one organization or what? everyone claims credit for the education success in afghanistan >> would that include -- >> well, whe

peacekeeping operations will occur in south sudan after july 9. if you could speak to the issue of use in condo. how you see that playing out by un peacekeepers? also, years back, i held a series of hearings and offered an amendment othe issue of anti-semitic language in unra text books. we are the major donors. has that been fixed? half a billi dollars over the last two years. we should have zero tolerance for anything that is anti- semitic or anti american when we are footing the bill before those textbooks -- for those textbooks. i raised this with increasing alarm as far back as 1983. that is a barbaric one child per couple policy with its heavy reliance on forced abortion and forced sterilization. brothers and sisters are illegal in china. that has not changed. i easily worked on a case of a woman who was being compelled in -- recently worked on a case of a woman who was being compelled to get an abortion who had a first child and wasot allowed to have a second. i will share with you privately, it was a successful outcome but she is the excep

let just say that i commend the great job done in south sudan with the election and we hope that this can be dealt with. this can increase the troops in somalia which is a very important area. maybe we can hav stability on the somalia region. i will rurn the balance of my time. >> welcome, ambassador. i would disagree with my friend. all of us to not have the same goals in mind. there are people on your side of the aisle and my side of the aisle that believe that we should move towards global government. the fact that the u.n. is being used as a vehicle to see how used as a vehicle to see how global government will

we service in the case with contingency planning for south sudan where both the state department andffice of disaster assistance through a number of meetings reached out the ngo community, compared notes, and something similar i think larger with the office of foreign disaster assistance has occurred with regard to libya since like mercy on the ground and in that area. >> mr. mcgarry? >> i'm afraid i was all afghanistan all decidedly couple of weeks ago. crs is working both sides of the board but i don't know what -- to what extent the. >> ms. richard? >> we have sent teams to the egyptian side and a tunisian side of the border. and the parts of the government has been in touch with our teams. libya is an odd situation right now because there has been a lot of refugees flowing over the border the people who have come have been workers from third countries going back to them. we did do a little help on that but there is a puzzle why we are not seeing more refugees from we. we've also i know been contacted by the nato forces to make sure that they don't inadvertently bomb us. but they'

i think you a lot for that spirit i am from south sudan. we are getting in the country. -- thank you. >> they want to export our good ideas. >> didn't know the fed gave away $200 million? >> i believe that. they talk about how they can make all the money and keep it. >> or ron paul was one of four republicans voting against the 2012 budget. that passed in the house by a voted 235-193. one quick note, president obama signed that late this afternoon. he objected to several provisions in the bill including one dealing with the child and transfer of detainees. donald trump is in florida this weekend speaking to the south florida t party rally. we will have that coverage for you sunday night at 9:00 eastern. we mention president obama was in chicago last night. several fund-raisers were in that city. he had a speech at navy pier in chicago picking off his first official speech of the 2012 campaign. his comments from chicago last night, about a half an hour. >> even as we are excited about what the future holds for chicago, it is already a great

sudan. >> ethiopia. >> couric: ethiopia. >> south korea. >> couric: south korea.of london's 1.2 million school-aged children are racial or ethnic minorities. the millbank neighborhood is home to many of the new faces of the united kingdom. >> they certainly don't look like the royal family and they don't sound like the royal family, but i think a point worth making is that the values held by a lot of the families in this school would be absolutely those of the royal family. >> couric: what do you think makes a good family? what qualities? >> working together. >> loving each other. >> being happy for each other. >> couric: do you feel like you have anything in common with prince william and kate middleton? do you share anything with them? >> yeah, we're all humans, at the end of the day. >> i think anyone can be a princess by behaving and, like, being kind. >> couric: this week, they learned about the royal family, but they already know plenty about family values. ( applause ) while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthriti

peace is never finished and spoke about the current instability and violence in his native sudan, where the south is scheduled to separate from the north in july. >> there is no peace in darfur. >> that conflict in the western region of darfur has driven 2 million people from their homes and killed more than 200,000. >>> in news of the world tonight in yemen, protests continue today as the sixth nation gulf cooperation council called for president abdullah saleh to step down. saudi leaders and others are treeing to broker a deal in which the yemen president would esign in change store immunity from prosecution. >>> and in israel, the israeli military has is deployed a system of missile interceptors to stop rocket attacks from gaza. the political arm of hamas in gaza has called for a ceasefire, but not able to impose the ceasefire on the militants. the israeli military continues to launch counterstrikes that killed at least 20 people, including civilians. >>> in paris a ban on clothing that completely covers the face went into effect an hour and a half ago in france. many are calling the law the b

sudan people's have already overthrown to dictators. but the conflict in darfur continuing despite foreign media interest in unresolved issues with separations of the southd north, sudan is now faced with the possibility to security arising from northern neighbors have egypt and libya. .. it is an integral part of the economy of the state's both for financial donations and the employment of hundreds of thousands of migrant workers who regards the region as the libyan hinterland and has played an important and sometimes destabilizing role in the area particularly through his recruitment and sponsorship whose and gentleman has been divided between half a dozen agents and the postcolonial era. having acted as a kind of sponsor for the fighters battling regimes the record the presence has put in convenient and undesirable he's now arming the war years rallying to his cause. regardless whether he wins or loses, there is immense concern in these nations that the fighters will return to their home states to initiate a new round of rebellions and secured and the wheel and geranium and rich regions to the egyptian revolution is not yet history. in fact we may hav

sudan. remarks from former south african president and a former president of burundi. the u.s. sensitive piece is hosting this event it is about one hour and 45 minutes. >> mr. president, ladies and gentleman, i have been asked by my colleague to introduce the conversation this afternoon. as you know, you're the partners of the african union and a partner of sudan. we started to work in march 2009 on our four -- farfur. -- darfur. our mandate was extended them to the nation of sudan. we've been working with the sudanese to follow up on the implementation. we have been asked by the sudanese also to facilitate the talks on what is called the arrangement. maybe the best way is to tell you where we are on these matters and maybe then that can trigger a discussion, question and answer. as you know, about the implementation, we have a, a long way. i recognize those people who played a very important role in the organization. we worked with them on the referendum. we had a peaceful and credible referendum and the outcome of which has been accepted the by the sudanese and by the intern

if it remains unresolved, i believe war will happen in sudan between the north and the south in the future. it will be similar to the issue in pakistan and india that will not be resolved and still continues on. i wonder if you could comment on the somalia and the u.n.'s -- with their peace keeping, also where the u.n. and i commend them for their resolutions and is there any more action that the u.n. will take for him to step down in the -- gbagbo to step down this that area. morocco continues to illegally occupy western sahara. is the u.n. doing anything to deal with that situation? >> thank you, mr. payne. let me begin with sudan and the question of i.b.a. as you know, the united states has been very active in trying to, not only originally to broker the c.p.a. but to ensure its full implement akseation but trying resolve all of the outstanding post referendum issues. it should have been, as you know, dealt with in its own referendum simultaneous to the referendum. the ambassador who was recently named by proub as his new special envoy is out in the region as we speak. he is out working

sudan. will hear from the former presidents of south africa, and magic at all minutes of the african union highevel implementation panel for sudan. the republic of sudan is scheduled to declare its formal independence on july 9. from the united states institute of peace, this is an hour and 50 minutes. >> welcome everyone. we will start our program. i am rudy deleon, senior vice president here at the center for americanic progress. this is the first of two panels that we're going to be doing on afghanistan today. that is part of a series comingp on the ten-year mark of this fall in afghanistan, and so i think it's a time both to focus on current activities in the theater, but also to start asking questions in terms of the lessons learned. the ten-year milestone of combat activities is a bit unique in terms of the armed forces of the united states in terms of time and length. and so we have with our program here today, part one will look at counterinsurgency and some of the lessons learned on the security side. and then panel number two, which will be chaired and moderated by our colleague at th

they spend money in iran -- and lebanon, sudan, hamas, they are also trying to arrive at south americaes he want? the supreme leader, what do they want? they want in my judgment preakness. greatness is hard to achieve if you don't have it. you cannot do it falls or by decision. so i think you have to understand that is to such an extreme degree to an unexpected level, and that's important. and dangerous since we have nuclear bombs, because for nuclear bombs the majority [inaudible] it's not who can carry it from one place to another place. and that is a problem. >> a couple of things since we're almost out of time the baby can clarify. there's a report in the papers already that you asked president obama today to free convicted american spy, jonathan jay pollard, did you? >> yes. >> what's the argument? >> he's human, not judgment but consideration. the man is sick in prison for a long time. i, myself, am in charge of different people and have [inaudible] and have to check everything carefully. not on the level of the judges. with the court decides, i respect. but there were considerat

they spend money in iran, in lebanon, in sudan, in hamas, and also are trying to arrive at south americawhat for? what is really the mission of ahmadinejad? what does he want? he's the leader, but what does he want? what they want is to be greater than they are. they want greatness. greatness is something which is very hard to achieve if you don't have it. you cannot do it either by calls or decisions, so i think we have to understand that our holiness begins to such a extreme degree, it goes to an unknown expected level, and that's a problem. it became dangerous since we have nuclear bombs because for nuclear bombs, people can carry them from one place to another place, and that's the great problem. .. everything carefully bacall and besides i respect. but there was a foul, there was no consideration is, human suffering, the state of health and that's what i asked. i didn't ask that the united states would change its mind about, but would consider the human consideration. >> and what did he say? >> i didn't expect him to answer my question and somebody would tell me make a i just have t

a very weak egypt and eventually chad and now rupturing sudan, virtually every other african state minus the republic of south africa had a literally unknown number of migrant workers. at the egyptian border of salum, on the mediterranean border of libya, the organization of the international organization of migration had charts at the border for all the people living there, and people from every single african state from new guinea, every obscure microstate had workers in libya, the scale which i personally admit, have no idea how vast this crisis was in that regard. when i crossed the border at the end of february, there were thousands upon thousands of bangladesh men between the ages of 18-35 camped out at the border and the bangladesh government would not or could not come to their rescue. on the flip side of that when i returned to egypt several weeks later, there was not one bangladesh man left and thousands and thousands of chaddians or sudans without passports and many people were outside their native countries, and some were born in libya and had no identity documents of any kind. let's see -- gadhaf