they were the ones who are the architects of the south waziristan operation. i think they are very clearheaded and dedicated. however, what concerns me the most is there is no comprehensive policy. the pakistani police officers have, and i say it with some responsibility, even the leading police officers in these provinces have not been given any major briefing. they are not part of this overall operation. the consequences of this operation will be seen centers.-- let's say they are incompetent. he should be on the same table when these things are discussed. i mention this to my political friends and military as well. they say we are very incompetent and corrupt. are they not having the same food as you are? the real battle against pakistani terrorists and militants will be fought by the civilian law enforcement. it will not take decades for them to transform. they will have to be on board. i am seeing that element not there. the -- who was running which was producing these militants. maybe i missed that news item in the pakistani media. unless there is that c

previously okay we are conducting a operation in south waziristan.this time around at my assessment in a connie group is pushed out. they're not killed and they are not targeted. the pakistani military is now based on my understanding is a bit late in the game but fully recognize the issue. it's difficult to find out what the isi is thinking. i will not go in that area. i really honestly hope the isi has revised this. there are contractors and i don't know what the mindset is there but the military i think it's now pretty clear on this. >> i promise to be brief. i am sorry i'm a professor and trained to give long answers. >> i'm so grateful for such a benefiting insightful -- of many layers. thank you very much. you mentioned about benazir bhutto's assassination i think some questions, some of the questions remain to be debated. who was behind president kennedy's killing? who killed benazir bhutto? it's one of those cases where we remain to debate it. you have mentioned at the end the recommendation that you ga gave. on enforcement enhancements

previously, south waziristan, okay, we are conducting an operation. you better go to -- they were told go into the north waziristan. this time around in my assessment, the hakani group is really pushed out. not killed or targeted but not provided sanctuary. the pakistani military i think is now based on my understanding is now a bit late in the game but they fully recognize the issue. it is very difficult to find out what the isis is thinking. i will not go in that area. i really and earnestly hope that isi realized this. i would like to believe that's taken place because you are right. the top general in isi reports to the army chief but then lower level operators and then there are old handlers and then contractors and i don't know what is the mindset there. but the military leadership i think is now pretty clear on this issue. i promise to be brief and answer them. i'm sorry. i'm a professor. i'm trained to give long answer. >> thank you very much. i'm so grateful, hassan, for such a penetrating and many layers. very educative. thank you very much.

i have 15,000 people working for me in my private security company. 600 people from south and north waziristan. withnever had a problem them. some of them have been with the 15 years. incomee people have an that they can send back to their families, their ok. if you do not have income or a means of livelihood, if you're just going to be a gun for hire, you could be a gun for anybody, whether it is a smuggler or what have you. you're just a gun for hire. that is what they do. they live off the road. anybody that stops on the road, the ticket tax from him. you have got to give them a means of livelihood. as a legitimate grievance. number two is the sense of justice. they have their tribal justice. they have their own sense of justice. a classic case where you have local justice prevailing and they were quite happy about it and then suddenly you had a jurisdiction of the supreme court and everybody came in with the constitution. then there was a high court and a supreme court. they had a legitimate grievance. you have to bring it down. the most important point, which i fought for this government,

i have 15,000 people working for me in my private security company. 600 people from south and north waziristan. withnever had a problem them. some of them have been with the 15 years. incomee people have an that they can send back to their families, their ok. if you do not have income or a means of livelihood, if you're just going to be a gun for hire, you could be a gun for anybody, whether it is a smuggler or what have you. you're just a gun for hire. that is what they do. they live off the road. anybody that stops on the road, the ticket tax from him. you have got to give them a means of livelihood. as a legitimate grievance. number two is the sense of justice. they have their tribal justice. they have their own sense of justice. a classic case where you have local justice prevailing and they were quite happy about it and then suddenly you had a jurisdiction of the supreme court and everybody came in with the constitution. then there was a high court and a supreme court. they had a legitimate grievance. you have to bring it down. the most important point, which i fought for this government,