but it seems like for some apparent reason we do not want to give credit to southern addison, which is here in california. we keep talking about new york and other states, but that is where it is really being done. it was done by this company which is like pg&e was, because they saw that by doing their energy auditing and by training the people to do the audit 10, they could save energy -- to do the audit, they could save energy. with all the deliberation of how we're going to speed it up because we have some changes in our local hiring, and because we have heard the last time and will hear again that we do not have sufficient people to do sound energy auditing, we need to address how many san franciscans will be trained. we do not need to do that through only city build. there are a number of other entities that do this type of training. i have the names. i do not want to announce the names of the people who can train, but we need to get san franciscans to be well versed in energy audits so they can train others. i want to know how that figures in the excess energy. thank you very muc