let's discuss this with a regional advisor for southern africa transparency international which compiled this report thank you very much for joining us mr hooper are corrupt officials in africa taking advantage of the pandemic. well i mean that's that's really a really difficult question time so when i can say is that unfortunately there are thoughts of the prejudice perception and they came to a very bleak picture of an action against corruption in every africa sub-saharan africa plan for itself unfortunately yet again at the bottom of the index now what this means is that governments need to take very decisive action as soon as now to ensure that they can in his which happened ravished by the qubit 19 pandemic and ravaged by huge incidences of corruption continually in relation to medical equipment and medical supplies which are supposed to be going towards saving lives this binge make sure that they take action against that if they don't want to that's what we lost was they would you say that the coronavirus pandemic has altered perceptions of people in terms of how corrupt their coun