that was after i had stepped down for eddison -- southern california edd edison, the majo electric company and the parent company of -- >> at the time of your nomination to be secretary of commerce in may 31st, 2003, you were chairman of the board of bright source energy. >> yes. that was that nine-month period. >> so my question is, do you remember getting $1.6 billion from the department of energy when you were ceo? do you remember that? yes or no? if you don't, i mean, i'm just -- i guess the real larger question is this idea of -- >> the answer is no. i don't. >> you don't remember. so the real question is, we're giving money to a lot of companies that are being provided loan guarantees. they're going bankrupt. i mean, the list goes on. and yet we're talking about jobs. if we gave jobs to the natural people where the resources are, we'd have unemployment down where it is in south dakota, north dakota, montana would be down to almost zero. and i guess when you are talking about department of energy getting $1.6 billion, that's a lot of money. and i'm sure you're aware in announcing this