maryland and virginia do not, and so it's the leader in a sense, because it's the oldest of the southern slaveocracy, and it has in it, government, some of the great fire eaters -- yeah, fire eaters, who are calling for secession, you know, from birth, and so it does seem to have that leadership role. jefferson davis, who i don't like as a husband, but who is an interesting man, fought secession. he was opposed to it. he was a great lover of the union. he did not want to se see seed d he's stunned when he arrives at briar field and is told he is nominated the head of the of confederacy. part of the confederacy, they all believed in state rights, so if jefferson davis would say something, they would say no, we don't want to do that, and so i think that they -- that to some extent, though they said it was because he was their most prestigious intellectual figure, i think to some extent, it was because they thought they could say, we're not going to do what you say. which they did all the time. why south carolina remains with names that shall remain nameless in the forefront, i can't -- i can't explain